Fallout 1-2-3 related game nostalgia/subjectivity

[Corvin]

After Below the Root, Might and Magic 4/5 and 6 are probably my early RPG 'gaming Grail.' I loved Fallout 1 and 2.

I don't particularly have any nostalgia for the systematic parts of Fallout 1 and 2 though. I loved what you could do with the dialogue and I loved the setting. The setting comes through to me in Fallout 3. I don't expect games to be made with dialogue to that level any more.

I enjoy tabletop roleplaying for tabletop roleplaying. I love the Shadowrun setting and tabletop game but I certainly didn't love the first RPG... and the recent Shadowrun was REALLY bad. That part of the Fallout nostalgia doesn't come through for me so I can enjoy Fallout 3 for where it is at its best... as a post apocalyptic wanderer/explorer game. I can also lambaste the 'main quest' for being really bad and come come around to somewhere between a 7 or an 8 out of 10 for my internal rating of the title.

I also am not running it in my head against what came out then but what came out now. I don't feel this game is as horrific as say Might and Magic 9 compared to Might and Magic 6.

 

[quant]

I will actually laugh hard if Beth releases FO3 editor as some kind of software, on a special CD, or for special download, for, say $30 apiece =)

Thank you for that one. I had to smile and you motivated me to put you a question:

Why shouldn't they?

Why?

Oh, I'll maybe respond, if your answer is worthy. To gain likeability amongst modders is NOT an argument. When it's sold, it's sold. End. New.

 

[Ausdoerrt]

^ That's exactly what I said, no reason why they shouldn't. If they do though, their game will remain crap because no self-respecting modder will pick it up. So it's in their own self-interest to not to if they want the game to be good. They're hoarding enough money already though.

 

[quant]

Nice one. And I guess you are right with your assumption, modders won't use it if it costs. But I sure think, they won't sell that piece; hey, maybe the won't give it away at all.

How about the new Syndicate game? I don't even know anything about what they're doing to it and I'm excited.

Whut?

A new Syndicate? Did you actually say 'Syndicate'? OMFG.

OMFG

 

[Ausdoerrt]

Nice one. And I guess you are right with your assumption, modders won't use it if it costs. But I sure think, they won't sell that piece; hey, maybe the won't give it away at all.

Probably won't. After all they still need to sell all those add-ons for Fallout 3, and make Fallout 4 and 5 on the same engine lol.

 

[k9wazere]

Probably unlike others on this forum, my game nirvana is not connected to any of these F1-2 games (although I enjoy them a lot)

Same here, F1 & F2 are good but they aren't my all-time favourites. That doesn't change anything tho.

Personally, I feel Bethesda should have made F3 more different to F1/2. I think by trying to shoe-horn a turn-based SPECIAL system into a real-time game, they were reaching out to old fans, but shooting themselves in the foot in the process.

SPECIAL was never meant for real-time, and VATS is a failure. I might be a little biased against VATS tho - I personally hated all slow-mo games since May Payne.

Slow-mo in Payne wasn't the godmode it has become in more recent games. Dive when you should have stayed on your feet and you got gunned down on the floor. Run out of slow-mo and you got gunned down on your feet. Miscalculate and you died.

I'd like to see a game made which doesn't use stats for character generation at all. I'd like to see a "traits based" game. Ie, you specify that "my character is a diplomat" or "my charcter is a steroids using axe murderer" and leave stats and skills hidden under a layer of abstraction.

 

[k9wazere]

A new Syndicate?

Why.......why? Why ressurect a decades old franchise everyone has forgotten? Why if your intention is to rape it silly anyhow...

Damnit, I truly think this age in gaming history will be remembered (or forgotten) as the age of unoriginality. It's the same deal in cinemas too.

1. Old franchise.
2. Lots of money.
3. ?
4. Rape. And profit.

But we still get excited, and we still buy this crap.