Fallout 3 reviews round-up #23

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JSOnline.<blockquote>“Fallout 3” is finally out.

And for those who have followed this game’s development (available for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Windows PCs), rest assured you will not be disappointed — it’s everything you wanted. From character design and combat, to storytelling and the massive environment in which the game unfolds, the game excels in both creativity and craftsmanship.</blockquote>HonestGamers, 10.<blockquote>And then there's the Fallout of old, which brings me to this request: if you're a fan of the originals, please play them again before you tackle this. The absolute worst thing to do would be to revisit the Fallout universe wearing rose-tinted specs, because Fallout 3 really is a resounding improvement on every level. Interplay's games were true classics, but things have moved on a long way since then, and Fallout 3 is the quintessential proof.</blockquote>Daily Record, 5/5.<blockquote>Fallout 3 is a very special game. It might take a few hours for it to click, but once it does it will have you completely under its spell. It will take a considerable amount of time to extract everything it has to offer. It's definitely one of the biggest releases of the year and for gamers looking for something to get stuck into over the long winter months, this is perfect and comes highly recommended.</blockquote>Video Games Reloaded, 10.0.<blockquote>AI can be a mixed bag; the ones that follow you can be a bit idiotic, while enemy AI is very clever. I’ve died many a time thanks to the enemy having powerful weapons and a big group to fight. Enemies are well varied, from humans to super-mutants. There are some nasty ones out there, but they all die the same way...shot to the head, see it fly off and cheer. The PC version has a separate achievement list, so those who love getting those can know there are 2000 points up for grabs if you play both. Although that’s really for the hardest of hardcore gamers.</blockquote>the electric playground, 9.9/10.<blockquote>On my personal top five games ever list, sits Fallout 1 & 2. I now have to remove them in order to make room for Fallout 3. This game has been blowing me away ever since I first laid eyes on it, and now that I have the final game, I can't stop playing. It has the best of both worlds: the huge terrain of Oblivion, the character and combat system of Fallout. It is an absolutely killer combination, to say nothing of the beautiful presentation of the game.</blockquote>Thunderbolt Games, 10/10.<blockquote>On the whole, it is merely an average campaign. The voice acting never ceases to be superb, and the characters you meet are relentlessly interesting, but it is also inflicted with a few flaws that Bethesda has always been plagued with and has yet to correct. The characters in Fallout 3 move like two-by-fours kept together by door hinges. Legs and arms swing stiffly whenever a character walks or runs, and the animations which occur during conversations between characters are so generic that I have to wonder if the company actually employs any animators, or if they simply purchase some kind of stock package from Acme Animations, Inc.

In the the first two Fallout games, the story was essentially the reason you played the game. They were extremely linear, and though there were moral dilemmas, they were completely black and white and also quite linear. Side-quests often came across as chores, necessary only to level up or to gain access to a game-play feature that should have been there from the start. Fallout 3 is entirely different. This is a game you play to immerse yourself in a world. Exploring, meeting friends, making enemies; this is what the game is about. And at that it excels, offering location and characters that are superior to not only anything in the franchise, but also to almost every other role-playing game ever made.</blockquote>
 
the first two Fallout games ... were extremely linear, and though there were moral dilemmas, they were completely black and white

O rly.

Fallout 3 is ... offering location and characters that are superior to not only anything in the franchise

O RLY.

Also, it's funny to see another handful of reviews that praise the game's voice acting as superb.
 
quote unquote HonestGamers said:
And then there's the Fallout of old, which brings me to this request: if you're a fan of the originals, please play them again before you tackle this. The absolute worst thing to do would be to revisit the Fallout universe wearing rose-tinted specs, because Fallout 3 really is a resounding improvement on every level.

I am trying to think of a single "level" on which Fallout3 is a resounding improvement over Fallout1.

Opening sequence:
FO1 - urgent, mildly involving.
FO3 - tearing-my-hair-out pretense-of-interaction yawnfest, with immersion factor broken from top to bottom

Combat:
FO1 - passable, with some depth afforded by the fact that combat is a subset of a larger engine strongly affected by stats. A bit slow, even with speed slider maxed out.
FO3 - passable, but minus the area damage from weapons like SMG and Minigun (unless I am wrong). Inability to speed up the forced slow-motion crap is ironic.

Visuals -
FO1 - exactly what you'd expect from a Wasteland portrayed via 1997 visuals
FO3 - you're a pea-sized mannequin inside a urine-soaked trashcan

Writing -
FO1 - straightforward and clean
FO3 - dialogue written by a 12-year-old QA intern

Textual descriptions of objects, people, areas, happenings -
FO1 - present
FO3 - absent

Inventory item images -
FO1 - present
FO3 - absent (or maybe I didn't notice them ?)

Inventory handling -
FO1 - clunky
FO3 - clunky

Quests -
FO1 - connected with the world for the most part
FO3 - much are generic RPG quests that make little sense for the inhabitants

Environment -
FO1 - mostly believable, with sci-fi elements
FO3 - nuke launcher lifted from Shadow Warrior, giant "bosses", a city on top of a bomb, toilet drinking from Duke Nukem 3D, radiation is now "wacky fun" in addition to "mortal danger"...
 
Per said:
the first two Fallout games ... were extremely linear, and though there were moral dilemmas, they were completely black and white

O rly.

Fallout 3 is ... offering location and characters that are superior to not only anything in the franchise

O RLY.
I believe it's the real reason of hate toward Fo3. Bethesda introduced so much ideas inconsistent with previous Fallout games such as nonlinearity, true moral dilemmas, quests with background story, exploration, interesting characters etc. I'm curious why the 'journalist' didn't mentioned that Fallout 1&2 were only simple shooters while third game has some RPG elements.

AI can be a mixed bag; the ones that follow you can be a bit idiotic, while enemy AI is very clever. I’ve died many a time thanks to the enemy having powerful weapons and a big group to fight.

That's a good example of smart AI: outnumbering and having powerful weapons. So what's the difference beetwen Fo3's AI and Wolfenstein's one? Variety of weapons used by enemies?
 
Now really, where do you get these reviews? Is the whole world full of shallow and idiotic people?

How do they give up these 10s? 10? Are you kidding me, this game is full of obvious flaws, even a game with minor flaws doesn't deserve a 10.

Damn it, this pisses me off, bethesda is making money without putting any work into it and they are doing this by rapping the Fallout franchise. How happy must they now be, knowing that anything they make will mostly be viewed as greatest rpg of all time, every time they make a new game :evil:
 
Per said:
...those who love getting those can know there are 2000 points up for grabs if you play both. Although that’s really for the hardest of hardcore gamers.

*sigh* So achievements = hardcore now. I'm going to hate this decade. (OK, I do see what he really means here, but still...)
 
Well AskWazzup, its days like these that I do hope Karma exists.

Because if I was Todd, Emil or anyone of the gang I would be very very very worried what the 'compensation' for this stupid luck is.
 
Some of these reviews really made me laugh. I'm playing the game for 25+ hours now and enjoying it but only for exploring. I'll wait for NMA review if I want to read a proper F3 review.
 
Per said:
the first two Fallout games ... were extremely linear, and though there were moral dilemmas, they were completely black and white

O rly.

Fallout 3 is ... offering location and characters that are superior to not only anything in the franchise

O RLY.

Also, it's funny to see another handful of reviews that praise the game's voice acting as superb.

You know the only reason they say such stupid things at all is because of the reaction Fallout 3 has garnered, for some reason many of the reviewers have taken up the defensive against the more protective fans, going as far as to discredit the original games for whatever reason.
 
Fallout 3 is so good it takes up two spots on a top five list. I wonder if they are consecutive ones.
 
"On my personal top five games ever list, sits Fallout 1 & 2. I now have to remove them in order to make room for Fallout 3. This game has been blowing me away ever since I first laid eyes on it, and now that I have the final game, I can't stop playing. It has the best of both worlds: the huge terrain of Oblivion, the character and combat system of Fallout. It is an absolutely killer combination, to say nothing of the beautiful presentation of the game. Well, beautiful is perhaps the wrong word: the game looks like a post-apocalyptic nightmare, as forbidding as some of the best horror survival titles. This game has everything an RPGer could want: engaging combat with the right mix of action and strategy, deep character customization (I am playing my usual diplomat character) and excellent story. Even the voice acting is good. Fallout 3 is quite simply awesome, so much so that I wish people would stop releasing other games so I can keep on playing this one."

That's the entire review ? Really ?
 
I honestly don't think I'll go to game reviewers to help me decide on something ever again. From now on if it doesn't have a demo, I will ignore it. :cry:
 
I hired the Xbox version for a week - Now I know they're playing a different game to the one I've seen.

The voice acting is grating and cringeworthy, as is the dialogue. "Mum" is the winner so far:

Liam Neeson: It's a boy.
Mum: <painedgiggle> Oh-ho. A son. Uh. <painedgiggle> My son, what a son you're going to turn out to be, son. <painedgiggle>
Liam Neeson: Son, you are my son, son.

For fuck's sake.
 
Section8 said:
Liam Neeson: It's a boy.
Mum: <pained> Oh-ho. A son. Uh. <pained> My son, what a son you're going to turn out to be, son. <pained>
Liam Neeson: Son, you are my son, son.

Good thing I wasn't drinking soda.

vvv It was an exaggeration, but it still made me chortle vvv
 
I wonder what the Black Isle people are thinking about this.

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shihonage said:
Section8 said:
Liam Neeson: It's a boy.
Mum: <pained> Oh-ho. A son. Uh. <pained> My son, what a son you're going to turn out to be, son. <pained>
Liam Neeson: Son, you are my son, son.

Good thing I wasn't drinking soda.

HAHAHA lol, I can't believe the jornalists are giving 10 to things like this. They're insane.
 
fedaykin said:
For accuracy's sake, there was no toilet drinking in DN3D. There was peeing, though :D

Strange, I remember gaining 10% health by coming to toilets and pressing "Use" key. All this time I thought it was drinking, not peeing.

It's a good thing I don't confuse these things in real life. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be going to the men's room with my cup.
 
fedaykin said:
For accuracy's sake, there was no toilet drinking in DN3D. There was peeing, though :D
True, you could drink out of any fountain of water but you could break toilets and drink the water spraying up out of the pipe.
 
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