Fallout 3 reviews round-up #63

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Perpetual Student, Perpetually Gaming blog, 5/5.<blockquote>You can play it from a first- or third-person perspective, but these are usually simply for traversing the world, as your dialogue will always put you in a first-person view where you observe the person you are talking to standing in front of you as a mannequin as you dig through the sometimes-overly-textualized dialogue trees. You are also in first-person mode to view your Pip-Boy, the wrist computer that acts as your menu system. The method of navigating the Pip-Boy is more awkward at times than it needs to be, and I often found myself pressing the trigger when I wanted the d-pad. Outside of these instances, however, you can run and gun your way through the D.C. area in the viewpoint of your choice.

Some of the missions are interesting while others amount to simple fetch quests, but that is an inherent design flaw for the role-playing genre, so it is hard to hold it against a single game. For the most part, Fallout 3 does a good job of managing the quests and making sure you’re not doing the same uninteresting things too often.</blockquote>NextGen Player blog, 5/5.<blockquote>The look and feel is rather different from the ¾ overhead of the previous games for a first-person shooter look. They also changed the combat system. Not enough to say that they overhauled it so much as they tweaked it. Previous games had you in a turn based style combat with AP (Action Points) to move your player, reload guns and shoot. The AP system is back and integrated with the first-person shooter genre nicely in that you have AP for aimed hits (called VATS) or you can just go guns a blazing like the other cookie cutter shooter games.</blockquote>VillainTech blog.<blockquote>Aaah… Bethesda brings another heavy dosage of gaming bliss, this time with a new combat system (VATS), and an interesting new world to explore. You start life in a vault as a baby, then… well I’m not going to spoil anything for you, just buy it!

Essentially, this game is the same engine as Oblivion, with the new combat system, and little else. Not to downplay the game though, it is a very interesting format, although very similar to Oblivion.</blockquote>Deseret News, 10/10.<blockquote>Even taking a good deal of time before printing a review (as suggested by Bethesda) there are many interesting hours here. There are few games that allow so many types of play options that all reward the player. It is a technical marvel, extremely playable and features amazing design, all in one game.</blockquote>GamingTrend, second review, 94%.<blockquote>When Bethesda first announced that they were making a first-person shooter/RPG out of Fallout 3, there were many puzzled looks going around. How can you possibly combine these elements, along with the turn-based nature of the previous Fallout titles, and have it make sense? Needless to say, Fallout 3 combines all of them in a nearly flawless manner, making this title uniquely enjoyable to play.</blockquote>Game Freaks 365, 9.6.<blockquote>This generation of games has delivered absolutely fabulous cinematic-quality titles. Bioshock, Gears of War and the Call of Duty series just to name a few. Fallout 3 easily deserves to be remembered amongst them. Not only that, but Fallout 3 deserves to mentioned in the same breath as all other RPG's we've heard too much about: Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger and Bethesda's own Elder's Scroll series. Fallout 3 is an absolute masterpiece, truly the pinnacle of Western RPGs, and deserves to be remembered as such.</blockquote>Gaming Obsession Australia, 9/10.<blockquote>Head and shoulders above a lot of the games that have been released this generation. A game that you can play for months and not be bored of. A game that everybody needs to play, just the scene when you walk out of the Vault for the first time makes Fallout 3 worth the entry fee.</blockquote>Level 7, 9/10.<blockquote>Fallout 3 should be played at a quiet pace. You should do all the side quests you find, search the wasteland for interesting locations and talk to everything and everyone. It should be in your interest to learn more about the world you wake up to in "vault 101". If you don't have the time or interest to play at a quiet pace it is easy to ruin Fallout 3. The worst thing you could do is just play through the main plot as quickly as you can. Then you'll miss the fact that this is one of the games of the year.</blockquote>
 
Some of the missions are interesting while others amount to simple fetch quests, but that is an inherent design flaw for the role-playing genre

Because you see, back in the great day when the Genre Defining Committee defined the RPG genre, they made this mistake, and now we HAVE to make RPGs with bad quests! It's just inherent in the genre! IT IS BAD BUT WE CAN'T NOT INCLUDE THEM IT WOULD BE WRONG

(This is the D.C. Metro guy who studies game design, by the way.)

Leading up to the release of Fallout 3, there were many people that questioned the decision that the latest entry in the franchise was abandoning the traditional isometric viewpoint for the new first-person look. On top of that, the change in developer from Interplay (legendary creators of Fallout and Fallout 2) to Bethesda brought some concern. Let me be the first of many to say that we had nothing to worry about.

Oh, you are absolutely so the first to say that.
 
RPG Committee? I thought it was kinda plain and simple. Crush, Kill, Destroy and Level Up.
 
"the sometimes-overly-textualized dialogue trees"

I stopped dead in my tracks at this statement. Is this person insinuating that Fallout 3 was wordy? Really now?
 
Hm. That was interesting. Someone mind explaining why it's ok to blab and whine about all the shit these people have written, but when I make a not very serious post about killing stupid people it gets thrown in the vats? Jeez....
 
Jenx said:
Hm. That was interesting. Someone mind explaining why it's ok to blab and whine about all the shit these people have written, but when I make a not very serious post about killing stupid people it gets thrown in the vats? Jeez....

As it says in the rules: "We also moderate more heavily for personal attacks on individuals that are not on this forum, be they developers or journalists. Please refrain from doing so."

Any jokes about killing anyone fall under this, and are removed by default.

You honestly don't see the difference in criticizing what someone wrote or personally attacking him? Well, regardless of if you agree with it, the latter isn't allowed, the former is fine. I'd like to see less spam and more actual points on the news forum, or broadly said as little spam as possible and as much actual discussion as possible, to be honest.
 
Perpetual Student said:
Some of the missions are interesting while others amount to simple fetch quests, but that is an inherent design flaw for the role-playing genre, so it is hard to hold it against a single game.
It's a crutch for the genre. Just like an overabundance of crates and exploding barrels are for FPSs.

VillainTech said:
well I’m not going to spoil anything for you, just buy it!
Why do reviewers assume that it is their job to tell you what to do? Even if it really was the best thing since sliced bread, couldn't it be possible that some people might not like the play style or even the atmosphere? Why don't these reviewers recommend instead of command? Why not just say if you like X, Y, and/or Z, you will probably like W?

Game Freaks 365 said:
truly the pinnacle of Western RPGs, and deserves to be remembered as such.
Pinnacle? As long as their are flaws I don't think any game could be considered the pinnacle.

Gaming Obsession Australia said:
Head and shoulders above a lot of the games that have been released this generation.
Which isn't saying much.
 
Pinnacle is just a high point, not a "this game has no flaws" nomer.

I'd say the pinnacle of western RPGs is Realms of Arkania 2. Or possible Fallout, PS:T, Arcanum or Gothic 2.

To call something a pinnacle when it's just out is usually a bad idea. Your views might be skewed by first impression.

PS: backing up my "called it" here: when we're going into the hype for TES V, all of a sudden these very self-same journos will start talking about how terrible the plot was in Fallout 3 and how awful the writing and how inconsistent the game world and how Bethesda has learned from its mistakes by now.
 
Game Freaks 365 said:
This generation of games has delivered absolutely fabulous cinematic-quality titles. Bioshock, Gears of War and the Call of Duty series just to name a few. Fallout 3 easily deserves to be remembered amongst them. Not only that, but Fallout 3 deserves to mentioned in the same breath as all other RPG's we've heard too much about: Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger and Bethesda's own Elder's Scroll series. Fallout 3 is an absolute masterpiece, truly the pinnacle of Western RPGs, and deserves to be remembered as such.

So... erm... is that- is that sarcasm or sumthin'?

EDIT: Is it my fault that your freakin' english language has had this weird vowel shift?
 
the sometimes-overly-textualized dialogue trees.

What dialogue trees is he talking about? In this game it is at most a dialogue bush or rather, a dialogue grass
 
I think we can all agree that by now everyone of us has formed their own opinion in regards to Fallout 3, be it positive or negative. I know it's your job to do so, but do we REALLY need all of these reviews? I'm not trying to insult anyone or stir up trouble here; I'm just confused as to why all of them need to be posted.
 
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fa2241 said:
So when are you guys going to start posting news again?

Such as?

Look guys, I dunno what's up with Per having gone insane either, he's like Sarah Palin gone rogue and all that. Thankfully, I'm fairly sure we're almost completely done with reviews.

Meanwhile, there is nothing really going on otherwise that is harmed by posting these reviews. If you're not interested in reading more, simply don't read these posts.
 
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