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Dont you think it would be cool if Falout 3 was a FPS ,something like Deus Ex, just within the Fallout world. Offcourse TB combat would have to go but....
You would still have a barter screen, travel screen, etc
 
Not this again...

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-01 AT 02:49AM (GMT)[p]To be blunt I'll just say that you have absolutely NO fucking clue as to what Fallout is, and why it was made the way it was if you're going to bring this subject up.


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RE: Hey..

Rosh has every right to.

"Three guns are better than two."
 
RE: Hey..

It's just that people keep coming up with the same idea over and over and for those that have been here a long time it gets frustrating to have to deal with it al the time.

JR

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RE: Hey..

1. It has nothing to do with Fallout.
2. It has nothing to do with the reasons Fallout was made.
3. It's on the wrong board, if anything. Perhaps a merciful thing it's not on the Fo3 board because the other heavy hitters are there.
4. 'Wouldn't it be cool if?' <- Over the last three years, usually when pertaining to Fallout, either is an indication of ignorance or flat-out stupidity. Usually a precursor to some half-thought out mental dreck that hasn't been thought of past the verbal orgasm stage.

Need I go on?


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Dennis Leary stole my song! That...asshole!
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"Robert, your time has come!"

"OOOH! Thank you, Master!"

"Don't mention it."

*Robert explodes in a shower of sparks*
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It's me, Jack Brown! The wind-up ass-hole!
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It's not that:

It's...I mean, holy shit. If it was at least pertaining to the series or even a good and well thought-out idea, it might be tolerable.

As such, it fails on both counts.


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Dennis Leary stole my song! That...asshole!
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"Robert, your time has come!"

"OOOH! Thank you, Master!"

"Don't mention it."

*Robert explodes in a shower of sparks*
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It's me, Jack Brown! The wind-up ass-hole!
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RE: Hey..

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-01 AT 01:38PM (GMT)[p]What kind of assholes are you??? Somebody came here posting his opinion and you insult him just because he hasn't been here for years and didn't read every fucking post.
It makes me sick to read things like this:
>4. 'Wouldn't it be cool
>if?' <- Over the last
>three years, usually when pertaining
>to Fallout, either is an
>indication of ignorance or flat-out
>stupidity. Usually a precursor
>to some half-thought out mental
>dreck that hasn't been thought
>of past the verbal orgasm
>stage.
You're telling totally bullshit. YOU are ignorant. Ignorant assholes. This guy said his opinion and you flame him.
Ok, now go on and flame ME. Don't be afraid, you can insult me, you are a comunity and everyone will agree with you.
Damn, and I thought you guys were pretty cool.

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RE: Hey..

1.) I agree completely with what roshambo is saying about FPS Fallout being a bad idea.

2.) I think he's being a complete cocksucker about his little tirade.


Okay, so maybe it's not a good idea, I agree. But you're being a total fucking social reject about it! Christ on a fucking stick, you're just mindlessly ranting at this poor kid for nothing!

A GOOD GODAMNED apology would be in order, asshole!
 
RE: Hey..

Ditto. I mean, I thought it was kind of an iteresting idea. Eben if it doesn't 'capture the ideals' of Fallout it still sounded interesting, not really a good idea, but an interesting one, 'cause I haven't thought of that before. And I think being rude to someone like that just because They haven't been here since the forum first started isn't right... Especially for the so-called Moderators... ANd I don't care if he Is a moderator he has no right... Agreed, this isn't the right board but still... My god...

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RE: Not this again...

>[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-01
>AT 02:49 AM (GMT)
>
>To be blunt I'll just say
>that you have absolutely NO
>fucking clue as to what
>Fallout is, and why it
>was made the way it
>was if you're going to
>bring this subject up.
>

Rosh, I will try to take this as a civilized person.
First off all I just shared my personal idea of what would would be cool and asked your opinion, so no need to act like i am B.O.S Steel_Knight or something.
Second, I will not tolerate everything from you just because you are the "big Boss" on this forum. Then to the "you have absolutely NO
>fucking clue as to what
>Fallout is" comment. This is just BS, I love the Fallout series just as mutch a everyone else here, as I spend most on my spare time playing games, especially FO1 & FO2.


P.s Thanks to:ZshadeZ, Junkie, I/O Error & Tensen01 for yuor support.
 
Here is the full idea!

I agree with the fact that i should have been more specific when i posted the topic, so here is the full Idea, even if Rosh dosen't like it :

In a fallout fps you could still be using most of the things from the games, like barter screens, talking heads, speaking with people. The travels screens could be like beofore, you would simply see the game from a 1.Person wiev and use real time combat (or TB if you wanted, although i think it woulden't be good), or you could simply switch to 3. person in combat (like in Betrayal at Krondor).
You could also use AC points for different armours and sutch.
Tecnicaly then the game would be the same just from another view.

P.s Rosh, could you tell me why it would be so bad, instead of insullting me.
 
RE: Hey..

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-01 AT 02:22AM (GMT)[p]>What kind of assholes are you???

The kind that is getting pretty fed up with ideas that have no backing or thought behind them. Nor any apparent backing in knowledge of why the Fallout series was made the way it was, and I further resent the attempt to bastardise Fallout into MORE shit. The idea of a MMORPG is pretty weak enough.


>You're telling totally bullshit. YOU are
>ignorant. Ignorant assholes.

Look up the definition of 'ignorant', okay?

> 'Wouldn't it be cool if?' <- Over the last three years, usually when pertaining to Fallout, either is an indication of ignorance or flat-out stupidity. Usually a precursor to some half-thought out mental dreck that hasn't been thought of past the verbal orgasm stage.

However blunt, it IS true. I would put money on the fact that he hasn't thought of how it would be done. 'TB has to go' is an indication of not knowing what makes up Fallout. Hence, he is 'ignorant'. It also lends me to believe that he has no idea of why Fallout was designed. Of course, the argument of Fallout Tactics can still be throw in my face, but that still ultimately relies upon your stats. A first-person tile-tactical combat system, is not possible. Moving it to third-person for combat lends me to believe that they just want a first-person roam, and that's so distant from Fallout's current system, why alienate the fans in general, or even those the series was made for in the first place? A good case of a turn-based tactical like how he is talking about would be like the adventure mode from Birthright: Gorgon. Chintzy, and highly exploitable. Not to mention it didn't have a tile-tactical system, which is what Fallout has always used. Even Fallout Tactics.

The first post was quite resembling the pieces of verbal tripe we get on occasion, sort of 'flalout onlin is kewl!', and that's just that. No basis, examples, or evident thought put behind it. Just basically a one-line of text dribble down one's chin, from the looks. It's what I refer to as 'verbal masturbation', the art of self-gratifying oneself with blurting out in text something almost irrelevent and mostly annoying. And something that is generally regarded like how someone would be if they were to whip it out and start yanking their crank in public. Most message board moderators hate that kind of stuff, because it's generally a pain in the ass. You need to nip it in the bud, so to speak, or it becomes widespread.


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Dennis Leary stole my song! That...asshole!
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"Robert, your time has come!"

"OOOH! Thank you, Master!"

"Don't mention it."

*Robert explodes in a shower of sparks*
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It's me, Jack Brown! The wind-up ass-hole!
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RE: Hey..

>2.) I think he's being a
>complete cocksucker about his little
>tirade.

Not really.

>Okay, so maybe it's not a
>good idea, I agree.
>But you're being a total
>fucking social reject about it!
> Christ on a fucking
>stick, you're just mindlessly ranting
>at this poor kid for
>nothing!
>
>A GOOD GODAMNED apology would be
>in order, asshole!

No, and it's not going to be forthcoming. Read my reply to him, where I'll go into every technical fault with it, and how it would not resemble Fallout in any way, shape, or form.

I get pretty fucking tired of people posting what happens to be basically one-liner bullshit, with no thought behind the verbal masturbation stage. They talk about features all day, but cannot ever think of how it would affect the game besides one feature or two.

Would it be better if I got Barry (OSRP) or Xotor over here?

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Dennis Leary stole my song! That...asshole!
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"Robert, your time has come!"

"OOOH! Thank you, Master!"

"Don't mention it."

*Robert explodes in a shower of sparks*
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It's me, Jack Brown! The wind-up ass-hole!
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RE: Here is the full idea!

[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-01 AT 01:53AM (GMT)[p]>The travels
>screens could be like beofore,
>you would simply see the
>game from a 1.Person wiev
>and use real time combat
>(or TB if you wanted,
>although i think it woulden't
>be good), or you could
>simply switch to 3. person
>in combat (like in Betrayal
>at Krondor).
> You could also
>use AC points for different
>armours and sutch.
>Tecnicaly then the game would be
>the same just from another
>view.

WRONG!

Real-time would rely on your reflexes. Where does that fit into Fallout, which was intended to be an RPG from the start? Your abilities are determined by your stats, not through the reflexes of your player. That's the whole point of a P&P RPG game. Which Fallout is one. Which...you did know that, right?

Turn-based would be nigh impossible, due to having the movement skewed to hell, and still relying on your abilities as a player in a FP matrix.

Third person is acceptable, like how it was, but...why insist on the waste of efforts that is two different engines merged together? One alone has done quite well, and seriously, what does first-person really do besides make it into a Wizardry look-alike clone? We've got enough FP-RPG games out, and Fallout was pretty unique to being about the only RPG to use an iso interface.

I'm not going into the problems inherent with a tile-based tactical game being meshed with first-person view, because there's too many. First-person tactical is really impossible.


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Dennis Leary stole my song! That...asshole!
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"Robert, your time has come!"

"OOOH! Thank you, Master!"

"Don't mention it."

*Robert explodes in a shower of sparks*
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It's me, Jack Brown! The wind-up ass-hole!
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RE: Here is the full idea!

>We've
>got enough FP-RPG games out

Like what, aside from the MM series, which I hate?

I'm talking about REAL roleplaying games, with numerous dialogue options.

If they still concentrated on the dialogue, atmosphere, and non-combat parts of the game, I wouldn't mind it in the least bit if it was in 1st person view. Whether the camera rolls up from yourself to an isometric perspective during combat to go turn based, or an Deus-ex'ish skills affecting your AIM in realtime combat would be fine with me.

Hell, I'd fucking love it, as first person views are naturally a more involved view of a game world.

To hell with the type of combat, that's not what Fallout is about. It's about the atmosphere, non-violent and diplomatic solutions, and the interaction with other characters.

In all reality, I'd prefer them to stick to 3rd person, though, as that's less of a risk. But a Fallout FPRPG that would remain true to the Fallout Universe would definitely gain mass-acclaim and admiration, seeing as how the only true RPGs in the first person view have all been pixelated fantasy world shit.

Just no jumping puzzles, or I will go on a real-life murderous rampage.

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RE: Here is the full idea!

>Just no jumping puzzles, or I
>will go on a real-life
>murderous rampage.

You must be doing it quite often, considering how many jumping puzzles there are in 3d-action games...




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Hey Rosh!!

As Hell Patrol just explained to you the bacics of Deus Ex,as you obvously don't know anything about, do you know see ehat i ment, or do i need explain it to you once more ??

P.S You still owe me an Appolgy.....
 
RE: Hey Rosh!!

>As Hell Patrol just explained to
>you the bacics of Deus
>Ex,as you obvously don't know
>anything about, do you know
>see ehat i ment, or
>do i need explain it
>to you once more ??
>
>
> P.S You
>still owe me an
>Appolgy.....
>

I've played the demo of dues ex, and I don't think that it's quite RPGish enough to weild the FO setting. There barely was any dialogue options, most of the people were hostile, and it was designed too much like a FPS.

I'm talking about FPS-FO being Deus Ex on steriods, that would certainly be good.

And ATPYP - I actually have only done around 2 jumping puzzles in my life, but that's enough to make me cringe when I hear their mention. I'm glad reviewers are usually kind enough to mention them in game reviews, so I can know which games to avoid.

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RE: Hey Rosh!!

What is the stupidest thing about jumping puzzles? That they promote often savings of the game. They can be solved by simply jumping and jumping and jumping and saving when you succeed. I wonder if anybody actually thought of discarding jumping ability because it doesn't give anything in terms of quality gameplay...




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