Final Fantasy ranting

Kamikaze

It Wandered In From the Wastes
I would honestly want some questions answered.
Why in gods name do people even like FF series?
Who was the bastard who gave the game 'RPG' mark?
Why would he do that? :x
Who are these jerks who keep blathering about how Final Fantasy is "the place where role playing games" started?, its ridiculous.
What kind of ENJOYMENT could you even obtain from the games?
Why are Americans such illiterate bastards who cannot write proper and why do they play shitty mainstream games :evil: ?

Please answer my questions and feel free to rant if you feel like that.Flaming ignorant FF fans is most welcome.

FF fans can justify the existence of the series, and of course their own existence.I want to laugh.
 
I very much enjoyed Chrono Trigger, which is sort of an FF spinoff; I thought the character design, music, pacing and time riffs were all top-notch. It's only an RPG in the "inventory management and fantasy battles" fashion though, not in the "do what you please" sense. I also watched my brother play FF3/6 and mostly liked the story and music, although I would never have had the patience to actually play it through myself. CT seemed to have much less redundant combat and walking around.

Kamikaze said:
Who are these jerks who keep blathering about how Final Fantasy is "the place where role playing games" started?, its ridiculous.

I would assume that this is said with reference to console games, or at least should be.
 
"I gave to my 2nd grade brother, he eats that garbage off the floor and
spares me the effort of finding a real Christmas gift. Those numbers make it easy to keep track
of what I've already gotten him."

Thats a good idea, if i would actually have a brother who has been hit on the head with a super sledgehammer.

Yeah sorry did not know there was already good ol' fashioned ranting about it.
I can barely forgive people of ages 10-13 playing FF series, but beyond that people are without any chance of redemption.
When you ask a FF groupie "what genre are you into" they say "Roleplay, i play alot of Final Fantasy" Close the hole of stupidity where all dumb people crawled out from, final fantasy is not "Role Playing Game" .To simplify for the dimwits they should get own genre names for each FF.So they would have to bumps around in darkness.

Example:FF7 should be CPG aka. Cloud Playing Game. So on, oh yes i can see how you "play" the role.No.You just go through the game thinking your a sophisticated fuck, well your not, your another stupid (usually american) bastard who does not know shit about games.


EDIT:No offence to americans on the board, but usually americans fan the series.
 
wow, i really didnt realize that FO fans were really anti FF. to be brutally (and possibly stupidly) honest, i kinda like FF games. I could never possibly defend them as roleplaying games, since role playing implies an almost dungeon and dragon sense of existance where you create a character and act as him/her, doing anything and everything you can possibly think of. and roll dice while doing so.

and here i give my perks to the FF enterprise.

-they give me something to do when im bored.
-they actually RELEASE games regularly. Not saying anything about the quality of the games, since 8,9 and 10-2 were absolute trash (sadly enough i still own them). and im sure everyone will say all the other games are trash too.
-they (mostly) have decent to good storylines, even though most of them are so complex i feel like "jumping out a window" trying to figure them out. (by the way, i dont encourage jumping out windows. unless you're on the first floor and the window is open, this activity could cause serious injury/death)
-they have a pretty easy learning curve. honestly, that may be one of the things i like best about FF games. they arent complicated to learn, they dont require rule books or dice or dungeon masters to play. at first, if youre watching someone play X or 7 or 8 you think youll never figure it out, but once you start its pretty easy to catch on.

now to prevent my complete and utter flagrant, um...flaming, i will list all the bad things ive found out about the games.

-they have (almost) no replayability for at LEAST 5 years after you beat one/get bored of it.
-halfway through the game i just want to let someone else play and i just sit back and follow the story. I.E. the gameplay gets tedious.
-FFX-2. nuff' said.
-the side quests are annoying and harder to beat than the actual game. of course, that IS the point of them.
-The main characters DO have a few things in common, like amnesia, extra large swords (why do all the main characters have SWORDS?!), arch nemeses, love interests, etc.
-you always play as a goody goody. no option to be a baddy baddy...my god did i just say baddy baddy?

sheesh. and now i shall answer the first set of questions, verifying that i have too much free time.

1) I like the FF series cause they have anime-type plots and characters, and I like anime.
2) That would be the same bastard that gave Fallout, Diablo, Bard's Tale, Baldur's Gate, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Star Ocean, Phantasy Star, etc the RPG mark, and all of those were tight games, well, cept Diablo, which sucks now but everyone liked in the day. even people who hate Diablo now only hate it cause they liked it at one point. but back on topic, I dont know who that bastard is, but if someone finds out, they can think of another Genre to give all these games. Like action adventure maybe?
3) Because at the time there werent people around to tell them that RPGs could only mean that you could do whatever you wanted. By the time that was sorted out, so many games were RPGs that you had to create genres like MMORPGs and Open RPGs to actually describe games where you could do anything.
4) Theyre probably the same jerks that write gaming magazines, since most people get things they say out of books/magazines/tv/movies. and i dont see many gaming tv shows/movies/books.
5) I actually got alot of enjoyment from Omnislashing Sephiroth after he killed Aeris. Of course, that just means the writing was good enough to get an "illiterate bastard" to relate emotionally with the characters.
6) Americans are illiterate bastards because of people who translate things like "All your base are belong to us". And because they watch foreign films dubbed in English instead of bothering to read subtitles. Oh, by the way IM an illiterate American bastard.

Oh, and i can justify the existance of the FF series in two words:

CASH COW.

late.
 
The FF series is a great series. OMG! Anyone who thinks otherwise doens't know what theya re talking about. Period. Sure, it has its share of crappy games; but overall; what it does well it does very well. What I find funny is that people here should love it as it does turn base combat!
 
Final Fantasy isn't an rpg. Anyone with a little knowledge of gaming knows that... but most of the public doesn't know the subtleties... any game with a little more text, character progression or an inventory becomes an rpg... heck, i've heard people calling resident evil an rpg for fucks sakes...
 
I thkn for most people (and publishers) any game with a turn-based combat is an RPG. Shows how much they know.

I did play FF in my time, the Materia system of FF7 was quite fun to fundle with, actually. Storylines and character suck, no argument there. RPG = 0. Replay value = 0. They do have these spectacular battle effects (FF7 and up), but the main (the only, actually) thing that made me play through FF7-FF9 was the equiment and ability management - kinda like playing with LEGO.
 
There can't be that many that plays FF because its labeled RPG (not when they finish the game anyway), at least I hope not because I agree they're not really roleplaying games, action adventure would suit better. Whatever anyone calls it, I would still love FF7, like FF8 and perhaps FF9 because of the nice plots, the often good characters and the, especially in my case, settings and surroundings of the games.
 
Why people like the FF series? Three words: Final Fantasy Seven.

Most people play that, get hooked then cling to the series. Why is it Labeled an RPG? I dunno. Why is Pokemon labeled an RPG? I guess because you control different characters? Its like playing a different role! (Actually I don't really know what its considered an RPG)

EDIT: corrected a spelling mistake.
 
Oddly, Final Fantasy VII is the one I won't ever play.

So far, FF5 is my favorite, because of the job system, and consequentially (and sadly) FFX-2 is my second favorite.
 
LazyGnome said:
Oddly, Final Fantasy VII is the one I won't ever play.

So far, FF5 is my favorite, because of the job system, and consequentially (and sadly) FFX-2 is my second favorite.

Ughhh... FFX-2 is the most pretentious game I have ever had the displeasure of playing. I found any strategy derived from the job system to be lost in how fast the battles took place. How do you go from wonderful (relatively) turnbased combat to that mess I don't know. Plus, futhermore, it was a "fan service" instead of trying to be a real game. I could go on and on how incredibly bad I found that game.
 
FF2(IV) is my favorite closly followed by FF3(VI). Ya, may not be "RPG's" but I've always loved them for some reason. I could careless what games you like so this is all I have to say... :P

Mohrg :twisted:
 
FF Tactics, FF II (IV, the one with Cecil Harvey), and FF VIII. I didn't like Seven so much, though i cannot precisely answer why. I just don't see it as superior to all the others in the series to justify the kind of following it seems to get.

Tactics, damn, Tactics had a compelling storyline that would hook you for hours. Tactics had one of the best console storylines ever.
 
futhermore, it was a "fan service"

Okay, okay, I admit it, I have a thing for Rikku. :help:

But at least the music is good, especially FF9. Listening to "Jesters of the Moon" right now.
 
Well I gotta accept I got started on RPGs with FF1 way back when I was seven. I didn't manage to go fully into RPGs until I got an SNES and started playing Secret of Mana...the first and last game I min/maxed. Unfortunately the amount of time I played that game FUCKED the memory where saves were stored. Then I witnessed FF6 on a friends house and started looking for it. Blockbuster didn't carry it and on a country with 2M of people, you ain't gonna find RPGs on the shelves......of any store. Then on one of the Blockbusters I saw the case but when I asked the cashier if they had it...she told me the game had been rented a few years back and was never returned. A year passed and I had even downloaded a walkthrough for FF6 and memorized it and I kept playing in my mind if I couldn't do it with the game. Finally the lazy bastard that had it returned it and happiness was made. At least until I played Chrono Trigger. Around that time I got into Fallout and my life was never the same. So yeah, I can understand why people got started into RPGs by FF. Remember that in third-world countries, it used to be WAY easier to get a console than to buy a computer. I had to fight 7 years with my dad to get him to buy one.
 
Why people like the FF series? Three words: Final Fantasy Seven.

Most people play that, get hooked then cling to the series. Why is it Labeled an RPG? I dunno. Why is Pokemon labeled an RPG? I guess because you control different characters? Its like playing a different role! (Actually I don't really know what its considered an RPG)

I agree, FF7 was great. All the ones after that (that I've played...I never played any of the previous games) have been far less great (though not necessarily terrible, except for FF8, which was). Why does it matter if it's classified as an RPG or not? Lumping things into one category or another doesn't change their value, at least not with games. So Final Fantasy games aren't RPG's...they're still fun to play and still have interesting characters and storylines, so what does it matter if it's an RPG or not? Fun is fun...
 
Numbers can be words... And that's quite obviously in word form... If he said Final Fantasy 7, it'd be debatable but no.
 
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