Firefox Help!

[SuAside]

rcorporon, try clearing the NMA cookies manually. and let it make a new one next time you log in.

wouldn't be the first time that a cookie got borked on NMA.

opera sets the standard for browsers as far as i'm concerned

Expand plz

not much to expand. a good browser with tons of functionality that was copied by others. very solid as well.

but sadly, due to standards set by IE, web development is very fucking sloppy and doesn't adhere to the proper standards. as such, plenty of sites break.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Oh, dear, more TheWesDude wisdom.

Thought you lubbed IE, what happened?

What, soon Opera will suck too so you'll go slurp on Chrome?

if the features are so desired, why are they not included in firefox natively without needing plugins?

So desired by some people having problems with the password manager?
Maybe it should tell you that instead of having a browser bloated with lots of stuff you'll never need it's actually better to have a light one (although Firefox isn't THAT light, either) to which you can add only what you really need?

 

[TheWesDude]

i have never loved IE

i have never hated it either.


i do hate firefox, it has created a whole lot of people who think firefox is better than IE and has a lot less issues and is more secure than IE when it simply is not the case at all. plus all the talk about being standards adherent when in reality firefox is not a lot better than IE when it comes to standards compliance.


i have actually read up on firefox and subsequently have never used it for more than 1-2 days at a time. its just a shoddy browser compared to opera.

not to mention not even in Fx does it support a lot of the features and standards adherance that opera does.

if you use Fx over other browsers because of standards adherance, you are an idiot.

if you use Fx over IE because of standards adherance, thats fine.

do you understand the difference yet?

 

[Ratty Sr.]

in most ways, opera is far more standards aherent than firefox/IE. IE 8 cant even pass the acid 2 test, opera since 9.50 passed it, and firefox 1.x/2.x only passed acid 2 test with plugins that fake the test.

Yep, and MS Office is way better than OpenOffice, I mean, OpenOffice 1.0 doesn't even support extensions, how crappy is that? Oh, wait, OpenOffice is now on its third release and has had extension support since 2.x.

Here's a tip: if you are going to compare two pieces of software, then compare their latest versions. In case of Firefox, it's Firefox 3.0.10, not Firefox 2.x. And what do you know, Firefox 3 *does* pass the Acid2 test. Huh.

there are lots of points of standards aherance that opera does not follow that firefox does. like 100% compatability with java. which is bad. 100% compatability for some flavors of unix text documents. which is very bad.

basically, opera is far more standards adherent, but they purposely block portions of standards that create security issues which firefox doesnt even try to stop.

Both Java and JavaScript can be easily disabled in Firefox. Not only that, NoScript allows you to enable them selectively for trusted sites, and more tech-savvy users know how to disable specific portions of JavaScript functionality. Bottom line is, Firefox' security policies are fully customizable and may pose a problem only to the mentally incompetent or critically lazy.

it should really tell you something that many of the "uniqe" features of opera can be done in firefox with plugins. the big question is, if the features are so desired, why are they not included in firefox natively without needing plugins?

Because it's convenient to have the ability to customize your browser with specific functionality? Seriously, this has got to be one of the dumbest complaints against Firefox that I have ever heard. Extreme modularity and customizability of Firefox are its greatest strength, and among the vast number of available extensions the user is pretty much guaranteed to find any kind of functionality they could possibly desire. For reference, I have up to a dozen extensions running at any given time, and I'm willing to bet that many of their features can't be found in Opera.

I just wish I had access to Firefox source code so that can modify the core application as well. Oh, wait, I do have access, because Firefox is open source. Unlike certain *proprietary* browsers.

i do hate firefox, it has created a whole lot of people who think firefox is better than IE and has a lot less issues and is more secure than IE when it simply is not the case at all.

So you hate people for being correct?