[FO2] Vault City Entrance Bug?

Discussion in 'Fallout RPG Gameplay & Tech' started by chazzy1864, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
    Okay, did some searches, and couldn't find my issue. not sure if I triggered a bug.

    I have a day pass (actually got the false papers, turned in Skeev, and got a day pass.....the guard kept taking my false papers.....after reading I guess I should've had my armor off, but that is neither here nor there). I have teh day pass, got in the city. Did the whole cut scene of Vic and his daughter, gave her tools.

    Talked to the ammenities officer, and he wouldn't sell to me. I used the trick of entering combat to get into the vault. Went in the vault, looted everything, got free healing, and used the super computer to get locations/cross reference stuff for GECK/ and reformatted my pip boy. I came out, and it was after 6pm, so I got booted from the city. Went with no qualms.

    I left and went to Gecko. Got the quest to try to get the overly long named doo-hickey mentioned by Harold, left and went back to vault city. I transfer all my drugs to sulik, tell him to wait outside again, and talk to the guard. he pats me down, opens the gate and says I'm good to go.

    Only problem is I can't get past the gate. I get a red x on the movement squat. if I try to open a door to a shop inside the gate, it says "Cannot get there." I stop at the gate, as if it never lowered (but it did). And after waiting too long to enter, teh gate comes back up. If I talk to the guards while the gate is down, they tell me I'm cleared to go in. if the gate rises, I go through the whole search process again.

    Is this a known bug? Something new? Please don't tell me I have to restart again. I actually enjoy this character build, but if I do, i'm not too far into the game, thankfully (hard to get anywhere with 3 new games inside 2 weeks :p).

    -Chaz
     
  2. Kanhef

    Kanhef Vault Dweller

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    Sep 2, 2007
    Somehow you got flagged as banished from VC. Reload an earlier game, and this time don't show people fake papers or get thrown out for being there at night.
     
  3. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
    Well crap, I was rotating through 3 save slots, and the oldest save was immediately after I left/was told to leave after night.

    Is there a way to perhaps restore the map like I've seen people talk about? Would maybe installing killaps patch (finally got it downloaded...yeah real bad connection I'm on) fix it?


    If nothing else, new game here I come. :D
     
  4. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I think you just have to delete the appropriate maps from your save-folder to reset the maps.
    I'm not sure, though. Per could elaborate, I guess.
     
  5. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    I wonder if this really has anything to do with being kicked out from VC.
    It doesn't make sense. It sounds more like the Gate's open state doesn't register. It opens but the game don't know about it so it keeps blocking you. Similar to how some of the doors inside VC Vault say they open, but still won't let you through.

    It's not a new bug, I found a few old posts about it, one even blaming it on killap's patch, but since you're not even using it, it doesn't sound likely.
    Using killap's patch now would invalidate your old saves so you'd have to start over, and there is no mention of a fix in the correction text for the patch anyway.

    I would definitely try to replace VCTYDWTN.SAV in your bugged saveslot with one from a working saveslot. You have to have been there first or that file won't be in your saveslot though.
     
  6. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
    Okay, that sounds logical. Yeah I hadn't done killaps, and I was reading through the readme and saw no talk of it, so I was still unsure.

    Crap...I'll have to load up one of my old games, and head to Vault city (didn't feel like dealing with teh bigots of VC in those games yet). Which thankfully won't take long. I am really like this current build, so I'd rather not restart again. :)

    Thanks for the feedback guys.

    Thanks for a
     
  7. Frank Horrigan@BIS

    Frank Horrigan@BIS Still Mildly Glowing

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    Apr 3, 2003
    This might help; Enter the world map and select Vault City. When you're about to choose the area you'd like to enter, press three on your keyboard and you should end up on the map with Lynette. You're now in the city.
    With your problem, I guess the only solution for you to leave it again, would mean that you'll have to be kicked out of it though (achieved by staying longer than six PM). Teadious, but it might save you from starting over.
    On another note though; once you aren't an Outsider anymore it may become more difficult or easier to leave the city.
    Your issue could automatically become fixed once you either are a Citizen or the Captain of the guards. If it shouldn't, try lowering your INT beneath four then speak to one of the citizens. Hopefully you'll find one to escort you out. Doing this might have you banned though, and I don't know how the inhabitants will react towards you once enter the city again through the "keyboard cheat". Better try it first.
     
  8. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    You can get a fresh copy of any map by pressing Ctrl-R on the main screen, selecting the map you want, saving, then leaving with Ctrl-R again. Or you could perhaps extract the corresponding .map file and rename it.
     
  9. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
    Ahhh thanks for both tips guys. Time to give it a shot.
     
  10. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    @ chazzy1864
    I would like to have a look at your savegame if you don't mind.
    Could you upload it somewhere or mail it to me?
    I want to remove the gate from your map save and maybe replace it and see if that is indeed the problem. Or if it's something else, maybe I can find it.
     
  11. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
  12. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    OK, this is a bit strange and I haven't looked at any scripts so I don't know how this was intended to work, but anyway...

    Get a day pass and go through the gate, get inside the vault (cheat) and rest until after 6 PM. Go outside and get escorted out of town, what happens now is that a secret blocking hex is placed in the middle of the gate preventing access. This blocking hex stays there until you save the game on the downtown map and reload. Save the game in the courtyard map and it doesn't get removed and leaving VC to the World map had no effect either. I haven't tested this extensively yet.

    So chazzy, if you haven't used the fixed save file I sent you, try saving on the VC downtown map and reload first and see how that works out.
     
  13. chazzy1864

    chazzy1864 First time out of the vault

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    Feb 6, 2009
    What......the......f.....?

    You're right. Save at the courtyard entrance, then load that save immediately, and I can enter.