Focus on the Fallout 3 Guide

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I'm not sure if a guide is interesting enough to warrant this attention, but the Bethesda Blog interviews David Hodgson (the guide's creator), who also put up part 2 of his making off bog posts.<blockquote>Here’s what the final guide encompasses:

A comprehensive contents page and Foreward by Todd Howard.

A Training section where I mined the brains of designers at Bethesda, and offered meticulous advice on Attributes, Skills, Perks, the dangers of the game world, main tactical advice on V.A.T.S., information on Followers, and (naturally) a complete list of every weapon, outfit, item, Chem, Stimpak and Foodstuff in the game. I love stats, so we got a table with elements like fire-rates, ammo-clip totals, and everything the more deranged gamer needs to figure out which selecting the correct weapon to bring to a Ghoul massacre.

Next up, was a Factions and Bestiary, where the major warring forces of the game got an official back-story, and every single irradiated beast, mutation, and abomination received a thorough inspection. Can you check the health of a Super Mutant, compare it to the damage your favorite boomstick does, and then calculate how many shots it takes to kill one? Most certainly. There’s stats-aplenty.

Chapter 3 and 4 concerned the different Quests you undertake during the game, all of which are optional. These two chapters alone were large enough to be their own strategy guide, and every Karmic effect, Skill or Perk you can utilize at a pertinent point, and all the different outcomes are shown. Yes, including all the endings. Naturally, to avoid massive rage-filled forum posts, Spoilers are flagged throughout. Copious screenshots and Vault Boy iconography were used, as well as flowcharts. Oh yes, lovely, easy-to-read flowcharts showing every main route to try, and the rewards for trying for every single Quest in the game. The flowcharts (dotted throughout the chapters) take up over 30 pages on their own. Did I mention this game is big?</blockquote>Thanks Ausir.
 
Well I have the Fallout 2 guide (and what a handy guide it is) so I will probably end up getting this one, even if it's just for the fluff.
 
Oooh, I want it just because it has 30 pages of flowcharts. Shows that they aren't joking about the multiple paths.
 
Um, because it would not show the choices, whirlingdervish? That was really trollish of you. I suggest you go back hide under your bridge.

Quake is way worse then Unreal Tournament.
 
Can you check the health of a Super Mutant, compare it to the damage your favorite boomstick does, and then calculate how many shots it takes to kill one? Most certainly.
Except we can't because weapon damage is based on skill AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Unless they changed that again and didn't tell anyone. Or they didn't tell the guide guy that.
 
If it's like Oblivion's strategy guide, then they just put the damage as if the skills were maxed out.
 
Since this guy seems to go into some detail I think that there will be a graph of skill and a spreadsheet of how many shots it till take with x amount of skill.
 
Gentlemen said:
Um, because it would not show the choices, whirlingdervish? That was really trollish of you. I suggest you go back hide under your bridge.

If there aren't really meaningful consequences, are they really choices?

From what we've seen of it, the main quest is a 20 hour straight line run-through where you can avoid a couple bits to shorten it.

I've seen exactly no evidence that you can actually beat the endgame without pretty much following this path and killing X Y and Z. Until I do, I wont believe that an alternate choice actually exists.

sure a few side quests have multiple ways to resolve them all with very similar outcomes, but if there weren't the game would essentially be post apoc diablo 3 in FPP/3PP.

I'm sorry if my attempt at subtle humor crushed your delicate and overly-optimistic spirit.

:puppy-dog:
 
Gentlemen said:
Um, because it would not show the choices, whirlingdervish? That was really trollish of you. I suggest you go back hide under your bridge.

Don't backbench moderate, and stay on topic both of you.
 
whirlingdervish said:
From what we've seen of it, the main quest is a 20 hour straight line run-through where you can avoid a couple bits to shorten it.

I've seen exactly no evidence that you can actually beat the endgame without pretty much following this path and killing X Y and Z. Until I do, I wont believe that an alternate choice actually exists.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44996

Now lighten up.
 
Wow the people who know every aspect of it can speedrun the game in 75 minutes!

I should really redact my last post now!

that means fuckall to the average player who's never played it, just as the speedrun way to beat Fallout isn't indicative of the way you would beat the game normally if you had to find the information to lead you along.

BTW:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36161.html

wait for Todd Howard to promise us 20 hours of main quest gameplay, and repeatedly say NUKULAR. We know bethesda consists of 95% lying douchebag, but the claims of a 75 minute speedrun initiate from the same place that this one does.

wait for it... it's around the 5 minute mark.

now, using your near infinite knowledge of Fallout 3 and your ability to write single phrase posts like it's going out of style, please tell us which story to believe and which is indicative of the average playthrough.
 
whirlingdervish said:
that means fuckall to the average player who's never played it, just as the speedrun way to beat Fallout isn't indicative of the way you would beat the game normally if you had to find the information to lead you along.
It means that parts of the quest are very likely skippable.

wait for Todd Howard to promise us 20 hours of main quest gameplay, and repeatedly say NUKULAR. We know bethesda consists of 95% lying douchebag, but the claims of a 75 minute speedrun initiate from the same place that this one does.
The two claims aren't inconsistent. I can do a 2 hour run of RE4, but my first time it took 15 hours. That's with no skippable parts, and a whole lot of combat. Most of the time in their speedruns is likely traveling time, unskippable because your character doesn't know where things are until you get to them.

now, using your near infinite knowledge of Fallout 3 and your ability to write single phrase posts like it's going out of style, please tell us which story to believe and which is indicative of the average playthrough.
Really? All this hate?
 
Do you realize that you are effectively saying that the only choices in the 20 hour main quest line are worthless (read:inconsequential) choices of things not to bother doing on your journey to the goal, and that this supports my point that the flowchart of the main quest progression could easily just be a straight line?

While you ponder that, point out in that post above where I heaped "all this hate" on you.

All I did, was humorously request that you share some of your differing opinion about this aspect of Fallout 3, and the reasoning or information that led you to develop it.

to take a page out of your book: lighten up.

;)
 
whirlingdervish said:
Do you realize that you are effectively saying that the only choices in the 20 hour main quest line are worthless (read:inconsequential) choices of things not to bother doing on your journey to the goal, and that this supports my point that the flowchart of the main quest progression could easily just be a straight line?
Just like every Fallout game?
 
Just a heads up, went to pre order this (it will be availible and in the same stores as FO3 on the same day of FO3 release Oct 28th) and the Survival version of this thing was 34.99 Oo. Regular addition was 24.99. I got neither, with a game that vast I am sure I wont need a guide to find something to do and ill just IGN board it if I get lost on a quest.

Thought it was going to be 24.99 for the survival version.
 
I've got money to burn so I might as well buy the survival edition.

And I speedran Fallout in 12 minutes. Easiest game I ever did a speed run on.
 
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