Get your own .223 pistol

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Aesthetical visual pleasures have sometimes the added bonus of provoking emotions and reflection upon their viewers.

For some, it's paintings, for others it's movies, for yet anothers, completely different things, such as a well-crafted movie prop.

Make no mistake, such seemingly small things move 'big things' in the 'real world'.

Yes, but the question of whether or not the prop is art, is another matter; please name one thing in which that emotion and reflection provoking prop translates into actions that affect human society and changes the world, and i will admit it as high level art comparable to Picasso's paintings.

Furthermore, how does the movie itself translates into relevant actions in the world?, it may and does indeed make people reflect and experience emotions but the question remains: what good, what action comes out of it that affects the world? (remember, we're talking about a movie here that does not go as deep in humanity's psyche, history, spirit, as other movies do, visual pleasures aside, Philip K. Dick's short story can never be seriously equated with the great masterpieces of poetry and writing)

And ultimately, how do those provoked emotions and reflections by aesthetical visual pleasures "influence the world"? (i'm talking about human thinking, feeling, translated into actions into the world)...i'm of the opinion that if you reeaally look into humanity's history and think of it as a continuum, after a while you'll discover that art, in truth, changes nothing but itself, human beings are not made any better or worse in general, social hierarchies, forms, organizations, dominating ideas, are just clothing, adornment, the human being itself is the same as it was 3000 years ago, just with a different surface...remove the surface and apply whatever context you want and you'll have the same old human being from that particular context and the same can be said for any possible age...it's a bit like this quote from H.L.Mencken reggarding democracy:

"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good"


EDIT: umm...i may have gotten a little heavy there...

 

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the Guernica was of course used to get you guys to respond.

still, why would the prop not be worth as much as a fine piece of art such as a sculpture?

the prop was crafted with skill and so on.

while i don't think art is pointless or useless, i do think that selling a prop for 150.000 is no more retarded than selling a painting for the same price.

"it's worth what the fool is willing to give for it" sums it up nicely, since neither have actual value in the way that food, shelter, and so on does.

PS: it was meant to be "paint on a rag" btw

 

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the Guernica was of course used to get you guys to respond.

OK...::breathes again, puts down torches::

still, why would the prop not be worth as much as a fine piece of art such as a sculpture?

the prop was crafted with skill and so on.

while i don't think art is pointless or useless, i do think that selling a prop for 150.000 is no more retarded than selling a painting for the same price.

Well, there is artistic value and there is monetary value...while the artistic value of the prop is "Very Nice, Very Cool!!", it is not, for example: "A monumental work of Art that lifts the human mind and spirit and will survive throughout the ages of human existence"... at all. Regarding the monetary value, well, we know what the owners (and perhaps some crazed collectors with too much money)
believe it's worth: 150,000 dollars.

"it's worth what the fool is willing to give for it" sums it up nicely (...)

Yes, this is unfortunately true, but i would add to that phrase "and what the fool is manipulated into paying by the PR and the publicity"...

PS: it was meant to be "paint on a rag" btw

::stores torches back in the barn::