Glutton Creeper rethinks

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Glutton Creeper Games recently encountered a problem with the imminent release of their Fallout d20 PnP game, when ZeniMax Media alleged that Interplay's contract with GCG was invalid. The following e-mail indicates the current plans of GCG.<blockquote>If you have not been following the news on Glutton Creeper Games, ZeniMax Media (owner of Bethesda) has filed an injunction against GCG and Interplay to stop print for Fallout PnP d20, under penalties of damages to the Fallout Brand name and Fallout 3 if we promote or print said books. Interplay states that they are going to determine what step to take next, against the statements of ZeniMax that now owns the Fallout IP Brand. ZeniMax states that Interplay never had the rights to license Fallout to GCG under their contract license from 2004 for the Fallout computer series.

We area attempting to get a copy of this license to present to our own lawyer, to determine our step. If Fallout d20 does not print, we plan to change the IP of the first book which is about 30% of it and change it into "The Wasteland Survivor's Guide" in a similar PA setting. However the Overseer's Guide would have to be scrapped as it contains 90% IP and is at 50% complete.

Just wanted to keep everyone updated,

John
GCG</blockquote>The reworking of GCG's setting to "The Wasteland," alongside the previously mentioned fact that Brian Fargo had shown interest in writing the foreword presents the possibility that GCG may have acquired that license, or at least is trying to. For those who may have forgotten, Brian Fargo's company inXile currently owns the rights to Wasteland.

Thank you User 4574.
 
Well maybe it's a good thing.
Even if it sucks maybe it'll generate corporate interest for a new Wasteland game.
 
Well with the way Fallout is heading a good and 'pure' Wasteland CRPG would definitely be great, even if it is a remake and is full of 80's references and still has Russian commies who caused it all. (actually, I wouldn't mind, it helped made the original's setting).

Still I just don't think Inxile is going to make any new Wasteland game, they seem dead focussed on very other franchises.
Perhaps some small team should come up with a Wasteland Remake demo that is seriously good to convince Fargo it is time for Wasteland to be brought back.
 
lol and they keep releasing news with errors in the writing. these guys really own.
 
Where did you get the Wasteland connection? Yeah, the name has "The Wasteland" in it, but it looks like a generic reference. Wasteland isn't as known as Fallout and wouldn't really help GCG sales wise at all. I don't see why they would pay for the license.
 
BRKL said:
Where did you get the Wasteland connection? Yeah, the name has "The Wasteland" in it, but it looks like a generic reference. Wasteland isn't as known as Fallout and wouldn't really help GCG sales wise at all. I don't see why they would pay for the license.

Wasteland is legendary among Fallout fans as it's spiritual precursor.
Don't underestimate the power of that.
 
I do really thing that would the best possible outcome. GCG renames their FO PnP project to 'wasteland' and talks to Brian Fargo about this. (maybe GCG have already talked to Brian Fargo?)

And then Bethesda can make their Fallout game, and GCG can their Wasteland PnP game...And everybody wins :)
 
I second that. I think they are going to do what they should have done long time ago. Their own PA setting.

After all their artists *love* creative freedom :twisted: .
 
Vault 69er said:
Wasteland is legendary among Fallout fans as it's spiritual precursor.
Don't underestimate the power of that.

Sure if you want to make a game that's marketed to a niche group of a niche group. I just don't see the point (I'm pretty sure GCG wants to make money and feed themselves).
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Well with the way Fallout is heading a good and 'pure' Wasteland CRPG would definitely be great, even if it is a remake and is full of 80's references and still has Russian commies who caused it all. (actually, I wouldn't mind, it helped made the original's setting).

Still I just don't think Inxile is going to make any new Wasteland game, they seem dead focussed on very other franchises.
Perhaps some small team should come up with a Wasteland Remake demo that is seriously good to convince Fargo it is time for Wasteland to be brought back.

I'd buy a new / remade Wasteland. Hell, they could use the Post-apocalyptic RPG engine by Troika if they could get their hands on it. It would probably cut down their development time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xzYmQyHl2bc

I like the music in the demo as well. Reminds me a bit of Dune, and definitely sets a mood.

BRKL said:
Where did you get the Wasteland connection? Yeah, the name has "The Wasteland" in it, but it looks like a generic reference. Wasteland isn't as known as Fallout and wouldn't really help GCG sales wise at all. I don't see why they would pay for the license.

Wasteland and Fallout are one in the same. Both were Brian Fargo's babies at various times. Fallout was created because EA basically stole Wasteland and the Bards Tale franchises from Interplay. They couldn't call their game Wasteland 2, so Fallout was born. There's a reference to Wasteland in the original Fallout game as well.
 
Fallout has hellovalot of stuff not related to Wasteland at all (50s stuff for example), but that's not what I'm talking about.

Why would you think GCG's "The Wasteland Survivor's Guide" would be based on Wasteland? Right now that seems only a bit more likely than it being based on T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land".
 
1) Brian Fargo
2) The fact that a PNP for an existing, if dated, franchise will be easier to market.

Of course, it is all pure speculation on our part.
 
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