[Rusty Chopper]
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welsh said:
It occurs to me, you are one big hypocrite, Welch.
Good Religion vs Bad, or Secular Humanism vs Religiosity.
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It occurs to me, you are one big hypocrite, Welch.
DirtyDreamDesigner said:
So instead of supernatural pressure we have the pressure of the government (fear of Jail / Fees / Death Penalty) ...
Not everyone says "...oh I'd better not drive too fast on the freeway , someone might get hurt..." some say " Well ,if i drive too fast the cops might get me and i'll have to walk to work for a couple of months..."
to me it's similar to that hell thing ... people need regulation may it be of religious or governamental (right word?) origin ... as long as not everyone's able to act responsible and we don't manage to set up a universal code of Moral and Ethics that is accepted by all human beings ...
Just my humble opinion...
please excuse once more my primitve choice of words , I am still learning to use your langugage appropriately... ^_^
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Jarno Mikkola
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
So basically he is saying, that the religion is a solution for a problem(humans feelings of not being wanted), and the church is a power structure that can be, and should be used, with care. And in the second he is afraid that it will be used wrongly.welsh said:
Just the devils advocate.
Well if it works for one, it will be enough,welsh said:
ups, the wrong forum.
welsh
Junkmaster
jarno- given the history of churches doing rather nasty things, don't you think that the church is a power structure that should be handled with great care?
What I gathered from Sloan was that the world was full of uncertainty, but faith doesn't cure that uncertainty. Rather it gives you a sense of belief that helps you get through the uncertainty.
Consider that we can forget about the people who dismiss Darwin because God says the world is only 6000 years old.
Rusty- perhaps.
JJ- this goes back to the question I asked earlier- are we better subscribing to a religious faith that provides us a moral code.
Or do we do the hard work and try to figure out the moral code for ourselves, and dismiss all the superstitious- 'oh no I am going to hell' crap and just get back to figuring out how we can have a better world.
What I gathered from Sloan was that the world was full of uncertainty, but faith doesn't cure that uncertainty. Rather it gives you a sense of belief that helps you get through the uncertainty.
Consider that we can forget about the people who dismiss Darwin because God says the world is only 6000 years old.
Rusty- perhaps.
JJ- this goes back to the question I asked earlier- are we better subscribing to a religious faith that provides us a moral code.
Or do we do the hard work and try to figure out the moral code for ourselves, and dismiss all the superstitious- 'oh no I am going to hell' crap and just get back to figuring out how we can have a better world.