Google and Verizon vs The Internet

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UncannyGarlic said:
... The States needs to switch to fiber optic already. ...
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As long as there exists some fashion of choice among the regional providers, then AT+T fiber optics may not hold exclusive dominion.

I have been dunned since AT+T started offering this service.
Even a knock on the door.
Phone calls by accented and UNACCENTED english speakers.
At this point it's just glossy mailings and some third party contract caller that more often rings and hangs up,
3 or 4 times a week,
as if they are churning a milk cow account.

Over the last couple of years have seen fleets of AT+T service trucks out and about.
Improving the land line service neglected by the former Ameritech, or installing fiber optics to every fence post and drain culvert?
Which?

My experience with any incarnation of AT+T is mixed.
This present entity is most likely a successful regional Bell that has bought the AT+T (long distance) NAME on it's way to the top of the Sisyphus peak on the monopoly of the day pyramid .

The MO is to offer a low starting price, and then lay on $20 or more in fees and taxes before they line item more, and more fees.
So why should I pay 30 to 50 dollars more a month for F-CKING TV? :lol:
Why should I pay more for fiber optic TV yearly then I would for either gas or electric?
It's always been pay to play, and if I NEEDED broad band with F-CKING TV I could have had it. 2 cable choices from 15 years ago in this OLD city, just south of the OLD rust belt.

$1,500.00 a year for F-CKING AT+T TV? :lol:

Please allow me the choice to knock a third or more off that ... and option the services I choose to use.

The internet is all the F-CKING TV I'll ever need. And you, and you, and YOU, UncannyGarlic, alec, et al, are my STARS!!!1!

If this "LOST" program is any good, I can wait for the DVD at the local public library.
Does your local library offer FREE wifi? Mine does.
If you can wait in line, you can research on line with one of their rigs, too.
Socialism or contemporary public service?

So choice not only means internet access providers, but access to the diverse comm links and media -- DSL and DVD's.



I can wait for fiber optics in these United States.




4too
 
the solution is not fiber optics...

the solution is what will come next

while fiber optic is fast on the wire itself, it still has a 100-200 meter range and then it needs at minimum a repeater

what we need is a version of fiber optic that can go up to a kilometer before it needs a repeater.

each repeater slows it down as it has to receive, verify, then re-transmit what it receives.

fiber optic is nice, but we need whats next, not what is.
 
I don't want to start a wikipedia war but i'm pretty sure there are opti fibers that can go kilometers without repeaters.
 
I'm pretty sure 200m is more along the lines of signal attenuation for UTP or STP, not fiber. I don't have my old networking text handy, but I'm pretty sure that fiber optic means don't attenuate that quickly.
 
for the most commonly deployed fiber, the range is 1-2 km

there are versions of fiber that are meant for long distance transmission that goes upwards of 150-200 km before needing a repeater, but even that isnt that great.

the CERN network is supposed to be using a new multi-mode fiber that goes upwards of 300km or so before needing a repeater. thats probably why its data throughput rate is so damn high when comapred to conventional networks.

you have to keep in mind, even the "backbone 5" in the US while they are the primary nodes of the internet in the US, due to the # of branches, even they dont use the really long distance transmission methods.

when you talk about a small place like japan/korea, it makes a ton of sense to not use those really long distance methods but in the US, they dont use them really because of all the branch nodes.
 
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