Help! My Girlfriend is Addicted to Fallout!

They have the same graphics. :?

FO1 and FO2 might have pretty primitive graphics, but they're still more aesthetically pleasing than the low-res textures and ugly people of FO3 and New Vegas.
 
Courier said:
They have the same graphics. :?

FO1 and FO2 might have pretty primitive graphics, but they're still more aesthetically pleasing than the low-res textures and ugly people of FO3 and New Vegas.
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This

Fallout needs to go back to the aesthetics of the old games. In the new games the tech just looks too clunky.
 
Surf Solar said:
LinkPain said:
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The graphics are primitive in FO2 by today's standard.
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No.
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Lexx said:
At least you wrote Fo2, that means Fo1 is save.
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UnidentifiedFlyingTard said:
Yeah Fallout 1 has better graphics.
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I've been here at NMA for over ten years, so maybe my hatedar is just shorting out from overuse, but... buh? Are we making a serious argument that a game made in 1997 isn't sporting some seriously outdated graphics? They're archaic. Don't get me wrong: they're absolutely perfect for the game's atmosphere, and they give a masterfully indistinct, gritty pulp artistry to it that would've been a lot tougher to achieve with more advanced tools (I was never very happy with the "clean" look of Tactics or the Van Buren assets), but the fact remains that it's stone-age tech. Beautiful, aesthetically fitting stone-age tech.

Edit: Ninja'd twice. Need to get quicker with the rants. In response to Courier and Sabirah, I'm with you, but that sort of thing is a lot harder to do in a full 3d world. A lot of the charm of the original Fallout artistry came from the grainy, pulp-comic-cum-tabletop-game isometric indistinctness of it. It set the scene perfectly but it forced you to use your imagination a bit. Now, they've got to show us every crack in every mug rather than focusing on the bleakness of the overall environment as a whole. Yet another sacrifice made in the name of immershun, I suppose...
 
The technical style (engine, renderer etc.) may be archaic and outdated, but the artistic style, cohesion of design and pure beauty of the graphics from an artist's standpoint are still as fresh and awesome as ever. That's what he was getting at.

Hell, in hi-res, Fallout still looks great, although not as an AAA title, but more of an indie one (which is kind of good, come to think of it).
 
If you ask me, it's Fo3 and FoNV which doesn't meet the todays graphics standards. Even worse, they are not stylish, only generic. :shrug:
..anyway, it's good to see a Fallout addict everywhere.
 
Chromevod said:
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Well, there's obviously a problem with lack of perspective going on here. Perhaps there are too many here who started with the first two and then moved through properly.

(There will be a quick version at the bottom)

**~~WALL OF TEXT~~**

The problem in question for the OP is getting his girlfriend to enjoy the first two instead of just 3/NV. Well the hard truth is she'll probably always like them more than you if you consider the first two the "good ones". As someone who started in Fallout with 3/NV I'll always enjoy them in a way that someone who started with the first two likely won't. For me, 3/NV are great games that I legitimately love. For those who started with FO1/2, 3/NV feels like a cheap watered down version of the games that captured their interest so long ago.

As for getting her to like the first two, you can't force it. There's such a thing as hype backlash. The more you hype it, the more you sing it's praises over 3/NV the more she's going to be disappointed when she first plays. You have to ease her into it, and let her take the first step on her own. Don't force the issue. Seriously, I can't emphasize this enough, DON'T FORCE IT. If she is forced to play then she isn't going to enjoy herself no matter WHAT you tell yourself. All you're going to do with that is sour the experience. The first two games are such that they deserve more than that. Being a rabid fanboy is going to get you nowhere.

To give an example? Me. The entire reason I ended up playing and loving FO2 is because a friend of mine happened to give it a shot and enjoyed it, saying that while the gameplay is obviously a bit primitive by today's standard, it's storytelling blew 3/NV out of the water. Being the kind of person who enjoys roleplaying my interest was piqued. I had already gathered the story from FO1/2 by that point from my surfing on the wiki. I already knew about the master, Vault 13, the Enclave, so I knew how the stories played out. But I still felt that perhaps I owed it to the series to give it a shot. A few months later I bought FO2, then held off on playing it due to the fact that I was in the last month of High School. So it just sat in my Steam library, installed, and unplayed before I finally got around to it. I loaded it up, and began playing.

Suffice it to say the whole Arroyo sequence left a bad taste in my mouth. The gameplay felt clunky even for a game as old as it was. The story came across as feeling generic and boring. I almost gave up on it right there. But I continued on due to a sense of respect towards 3/NV. If those games could hold my interest then the predecessors deserved a shot. So I kept going. It wasn't until I came across Modac in their time of peril that things started to get better for me. I helped them deal with the Slags peacefully and become a prosperous farming community. It was after this that finally, after coming VERY close to the deadline for the quest that a feeling washed over me. Relief. Not relief that I had finished and gotten the rewards but that I had saved the two groups from wiping each other out. I had finally had that moment that, without me noticing, drew me into the game with no means of escape. The game had somehow managed to convey more emotion to me through text boxes than Bethesda's plastic faces and speech, maybe because of the plastic faces. From that point on I was a true fan.

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The point is that you have to realize that there is now a significant portion of the fan base who never played the first two. We're not stupid for liking 3/NV, just new. Don't force the issue, don't leap down our throats with criticism, the only thing you're going to accomplish with that is to scare people away from a great experience. Just let your girlfriend do things at her own pace, she'll come around eventually. Maybe later than sooner, but if she really starts to get into the mythos then she'll want to experience the originals for herself, even if it's just for the novelty of it.
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Haha, long speech my friend, but I am not forcing her. She has her interests peaking towards it, and I am no fan boy...yet anyway, haha. I love the old Fallouts, but honestly, I haven't played that far into the new ones because I play them on a console. My cpu isn't strong enough for F3 or NV, and I share a PS3 with my room mate, so most nights he has the ps3 and I play the old games on my cpu. So, as of now, I still don't have an opinion on the new ones. I personally think they do look better, and gives me a new view of the wasteland, but I generally play games for story, and I hear that is where they are lacking, but have yet to see for myself. Now she is more of a console gamer, so she doesn't generally get on her cpu for gaming. My question for help is more for the fact that I've noticed (and this may not always be true (as in your experience with going from the new to F2), this statement is strictly from my experience) is most people who play the new ones will take one look at the old ones and just insult them without giving them a real chance. I know she has interests in them, but I feel like if she were to start playing them she would just hate them due to the different controls, graphics, etc, and miss out on some of that story magic. I am trying to think of a way to prepare her for the differences in the games, plus we are both getting Vault Boy tats, so it would be cool if we both have played them all. But thanks for the tips!
 
My main thing is I want to finish NV before I try FO1 & 2... I want to kind of be able to separate them mentally and try not to be too judgmental. I like the running and shooting of the newer ones, but I think I'll be able to appreciate the older ones too, especially to get the story.

Thanks for the long reply, Chromevod...That's very true; I don't want to play them because I feel like I have to.

And Yellow-Nuke is right, I need to play the whole series before we get our tattoos. :)
 
I sorta figured, but I had to lump you in to be safe :P
 
even if it is the new ones your a lucky bastard!!
my girl never gets off that stupid giaonline stuff :(
 
Simply ask her if she wants to try out the originals.

If she does not want to then that is her choice, nothing more to the matter.
 
I used to have a hot girlfriend that was addicted to Fallout, all I did for weeks was smoke weed and watch her play..... good times.
 
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