how to end a fight

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First time out of the vault
one thing i hate about rpgs in general is the total inability to end combat through dialog once fighting has started. basically, once the first gun is fired, one of you is going to die. obviously, for an inexperienced character, this will be true - but for those with greater speech skills, one might think that, instead of throwing a punch, one could instead take an option to try and get a dialog box going, costing two aps or something. then, you wouldnt have to deal with having all of freakin' Vault City against you based on a "simple misunderstanding." this would also give so much more depth to NPC's, making them slightly more than dice-throwing killing machines.
nick
 
Yeah I know I hated that in Arcanum where I accidentally said the wrong thing and then went into combat which I couldn't back out of.
 
This sounds like a pretty good idea - now that you mention it, it does seem strange that almost everyone fights to the death. It'd be nice to have an option besides running away when combat isn't going your way as well.
 
great idea, this should be looked into deeper I often found myself reloading the game when i said the wrong thing...
 
Yeah i like that idea. Maybe depending on how pissed they are at you and how much charisma you have will determine your ability to 'surrender' and end the fight with minor consequences.
 
This idea is awesome! They should have a surrender option, like someone else mentioned, as well as a -Cower in fear while sucking your thumb thinking "Find a happy place! Find a happy place!"- option.
 
Surrendering might be taking it too far. I think that should be only available as a scripted event and not as a permanent option like talking your way out of a fight. In most cases even like in JA2, once you surrendered the game was effectively over. And seeing that Fallout3 will not be a squad-based game like JA2, it would definitely be over when you surrendered.
 
Yeah, for the player it should always be a fight-to-the death deal; unless its like the whole Harry thing in the Necropolis or Veiger thing in the Ghost Farm where you can peacefully surrender...

...But I see no reason why every hooker in New Reno has to run up and try to shank me with a shiv just because I killed a drug dealer for an empty Hypo....

....After seeing the first two hookers literally blown to pieces by my Vindicator Minigun, you think the rest of them would surrender and go about their buisness?

I'd like to see some situations where, say if you wait until your level 15, with Advanced Power Armor and a M72 you decide to go to The Den and finally deal with Metzger... That would be incredibly awesome if his men would be like

"Forget this, do you see what that guys wearing?!" and run off.

Shit like that would really increase the characters bad-assness.
 
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