HP advice...

Discussion in 'Fallout Tactics Modding' started by xxxRedMetalxxx, Sep 27, 2013.

  1. xxxRedMetalxxx

    xxxRedMetalxxx Moderator, Game Developer Modder

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    Jun 4, 2013
    Another aspect of my project calls for a greater understanding of how levelling and HP works in the Fallout Tactics game. It has been so long since I last played and I have no saves. Rather than start a new game and eventually acquire the knowledge on this aspect. I thought I would ask the community in hopes of speeding things up a little.

    What I need to know is this;
    What is the greatest level you can achieve in this game?
    What is the highest HP amount you can get?
    What is the average level of character at the end of the game?
    Roughly what HP will a character have at level 5, 10, 20, and so on... (I know endurance affects this, just need an average)

    By finding out this information I will be able to design a completely new damage system for my weapons, also affected by real life energy ratings.
     
  2. phillon

    phillon First time out of the vault

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    Jul 23, 2013
    Sorry Red can't help you there. Perhaps go check the wiki or do some searches on GameFaqs? IIRC though the level you usually get at the end with your characters (assuming a full party all the way through) is close to 18/19/20? There are many variables of course such as how many random encounters you grinded, secondary objectives met, etc.

    Good luck with your project; mine is coming along as well!
     
  3. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    I can answer this for ya, tomorrow you will get your answers ;)
     
  4. Tom9k

    Tom9k Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Dec 21, 2007
    Are we talking about normal or Tough guy game mode?
     
  5. xxxRedMetalxxx

    xxxRedMetalxxx Moderator, Game Developer Modder

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    Jun 4, 2013
    Thanks for the reply, yeah I thought the average end-game level was about 20, just could'nt remember. There are also the other questions though, I aim to better understand the HP system so that I can design it around the damage of my weaponry and vise versa. Good luck to your project too, thanks again.

    Brilliant.
    Thanks dude, you never cease to assist in my project. You are already the top advisor in my credits.

    Am am asking for a general answer, not specific. but answers for both modes may prove useful too. I just need a rough idea of max HP and max Damage for my firearms, and so I know at what levels in the game they should be used. Basically, answering those few questions will solve my entire games item flow.
     
  6. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    Highest level you can achieve is 50. (FACT!)

    I beat the game 3x, highest level 42, lowest level 38,
    i normaly end the game with 350 to 400 HP.

    Average level in the end is 35 to 45.

    I'm not sure what the max HP you can get up to in game? But I will calculate it and give you a accurate chart going by level using every perk that is available at each level 1 to 50.

    Max HP in game is 2099999999. (FACT!)

    Endurance: 1 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 22HP
    Lvl: 5 = 34HP
    Lvl: 10 = 49HP
    Lvl: 20 = 79HP
    Lvl: 30 = 109HP
    Lvl: 40 = 139HP
    Lvl: 50 = 169HP

    Endurance: 2 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 24HP
    Lvl: 5 = 40HP
    Lvl: 10 = 60HP
    Lvl: 20 = 100HP
    Lvl: 30 = 140HP
    Lvl: 40 = 180HP
    Lvl: 50 = 220HP

    Endurance: 3 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 26HP
    Lvl: 5 = 42HP
    Lvl: 10 = 62HP
    Lvl: 20 = 102HP
    Lvl: 30 = 142HP
    Lvl: 40 = 182HP
    Lvl: 50 = 222HP

    Endurance: 4 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 28HP
    Lvl: 5 = 48HP
    Lvl: 10 = 73HP
    Lvl: 20 = 123HP
    Lvl: 30 = 173HP
    Lvl: 40 = 223HP
    Lvl: 50 = 273HP

    Endurance: 5 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 30HP
    Lvl: 5 = 50HP
    Lvl: 10 = 75HP
    Lvl: 20 = 125HP
    Lvl: 30 = 175HP
    Lvl: 40 = 225HP
    Lvl: 50 = 275HP

    Endurance: 6 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 32HP
    Lvl: 5 = 56HP
    Lvl: 10 = 86HP
    Lvl: 20 = 146HP
    Lvl: 30 = 206HP
    Lvl: 40 = 266HP
    Lvl: 50 = 326HP

    Endurance: 7 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 34HP
    Lvl: 5 = 58HP
    Lvl: 10 = 88HP
    Lvl: 20 = 148HP
    Lvl: 30 = 208HP
    Lvl: 40 = 268HP
    Lvl: 50 = 328HP

    Endurance: 8 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 36HP
    Lvl: 5 = 64HP
    Lvl: 10 = 99HP
    Lvl: 20 = 169HP
    Lvl: 30 = 239HP
    Lvl: 40 = 309HP
    Lvl: 50 = 379HP


    Endurance: 9 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 38HP
    Lvl: 5 = 66HP
    Lvl: 10 = 101HP
    Lvl: 20 = 171HP
    Lvl: 30 = 241HP
    Lvl: 40 = 311HP
    Lvl: 50 = 381HP

    Endurance: 10 Strenght: 5
    Lvl: 1 = 40HP
    Lvl: 5 = 72HP
    Lvl: 10 = 112HP
    Lvl: 20 = 192HP
    Lvl: 30 = 272HP
    Lvl: 40 = 352HP
    Lvl: 50 = 432HP

    No HP effecting perks where used in this Endurance chart.
     
  7. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    If you need I can make a Strength+Endurance chart no problem since both effect HP, such charts will be available on FLVDT's site ;)
     
  8. xxxRedMetalxxx

    xxxRedMetalxxx Moderator, Game Developer Modder

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    Jun 4, 2013
    Robert, this is exactly what I am after. Thank you so much.
    I can see that you have put a lot of effort into finding these values and even though it may be a little more than I expected, it is absolute gold-dust to my project. I will definately be using this page as a reference when calculating HP and weapon damage in the near future.
    You sir, are a sterling advisor to my project. Without you, I could never truly achieve my goals. Thanks again dude :)
     
  9. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    Glad I can help :) it was not a problem only took me 40 minutes to a hour I will make a Strength+Endurance chart soon and info on how strong you can get in the game. I will send you some FLV sprites that I promised you here soon, I will continue to help you out :) I am a dictionary on Fallout Tactics modding so if you ask a question that I can answer you can expect to get a strate and complex answer ;)
     
  10. Tom9k

    Tom9k Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Dec 21, 2007
    Well, I've finished Fallout Tactics on Tough Guy with only lvl 27 - and I have finished every quest, failed nothing and farmed the robots for a while as well. I say the average level is from 21-27.
     
  11. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    I hardly use my team i just use my mane that's why I get so far and I find all the special locations too.
     
  12. xkcon

    xkcon Transcending the Multiverse Modder

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    Apr 2, 2003
    I'd say that my average finishing level of my character is between 21-27 in the numerous times that I finished the original campaign.

    It doesn't makes a difference if you solo or not. Your main character doesn't get 'more' of the XP - your squad just gets less (because less squaddies are there to collect it)

    ie:

    Scenario 1: player completes quest X with main character only: player receives 1000xp. for a total of 1000xp

    Scenario 2: player completes quest X with full squad of 6 characters: player receives 1000xp per squaddie. for a total of 6000xp
     
  13. RobertHouse

    RobertHouse Fallout Tactics Moderator Modder

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    Jun 9, 2013
    Hmmm, interesting I didn't realize your party got same amount of experience.

    When I play I like to wonder around the map to remove the shroud and find all of the special encounters and I like to stop at any random encounter that have mutants, robots and any sort of humans, so I can take whatever trash I find and sell it for a little cash and for XP, I don't know how I ended at these levels to be honest I haven't played in such a long time, I was normally afraid to end because I knew the game would start you back at the menu screen like in Fallout: 1/2 so I would try to collect 1 of every item that was in the game and I would just wounder the map slaughtering any enemies I find :) then when I get bored as hell I do the last missions of the campaign.