I hate "War Never Changes".

I played fallout 2 first, and found the speech to be good there. Then I tried fallout, and thought it to be tacky.

It's horrible in fallout 3 though. So pretentious and self aware.

"ooh, we need that hellboy guy, and make him say "war never changes".. a lot.. and make harold a tree" ect..
 
This is what i think War war Never Changes meens:

It meens that there will always be some type of war, and that planet earth will never find peace. It doesnt matter about technology, and who ever is more advanced. Theres always going to be chaos. Fallout shows that there will never be peace. Even after the "great war" we are still fighting.

Like look at World War 1 & 2. You think There would be peace after that. No we still go to war with each other, because humans are greedy selfish jack asses.

So War will never change. It will always be here in one form or the other.
 
SuAside said:
it's about motivations and suffering for me.

so no, "war never changes"...
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Exactly, the whole quote goes on to say about how man have always tried to kill each other with whatever they have, just because what they have later on in time is more advanced, war still has the same aim and outcome, people dying.

I like the quote, i think it's very fitting, but it's become slightly overused, everyone seems to say it in quotes and stuff now.
 
I found the line appropriate only in the first game.
"War never changes", and then the intro explains why it doesn't change. In the second game the narrator says the line but then describes the end of the world. It doesn't connect very well to me.

In FO3 it's overused.
 
Best used in the first one. Now, however, it's becoming cliche . . . At least after you read enough reviews/interviews or played the game too much . . . "War; War never changes [And neither do my lines.]" I don't know, the first two, it sounded fine. The second one took liberty and drug on longer, explaining exactly how war never changed (unlike the first, which just told you . . . "We like Reasources because . . . "). Hm. As far as the inherit meaning? Ask the author. I was too young to care when I first found Fallout. Now, I see it as meaning "war never changes. We fight for the same things, over and over, using the same methods of killing and enslavement."
 
War never changes. Tactics and weapons do. It's always been about killing the enemy for whatever your reason.

"Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing path with rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God, to justice, to simple psychotic rage."
 
Christ will you guys give Fallout 3 ANYTHING?

It's a freaking intro, they did just fine, and the "war never changes" was a nice homage.

If they hadn't said it, everyone would have cried about how it wasn't included.
 
BarackSays said:
Christ will you guys give Fallout 3 ANYTHING?

It's a freaking intro, they did just fine, and the "war never changes" was a nice homage.

If they hadn't said it, everyone would have cried about how it wasn't included.
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You're a moron. If you had the tiniest bit of your brain active (and I'm generous in assuming you actually have one), you'd understand the beef is with the quality of the script, not the binary situation of it being there or not.
 
Mikael Grizzly said:
BarackSays said:
Christ will you guys give Fallout 3 ANYTHING?

It's a freaking intro, they did just fine, and the "war never changes" was a nice homage.

If they hadn't said it, everyone would have cried about how it wasn't included.
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You're a moron. If you had the tiniest bit of your brain active (and I'm generous in assuming you actually have one), you'd understand the beef is with the quality of the script, not the binary situation of it being there or not.
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Why are you being so hostile? Calm down. I can almost hear you raging behind your keyboard.

My point is that no matter what Bethesda did, people would have shat on it anyway. They could have wrote the intro better than William Shakespeare, and everyone would have still found a way to criticize. I never expect prologues to be some sort of life changing, awesome, epic event. Tell me the story, get me into the game, and let me learn while I play.

Not too hard of a concept IMO.
 
I never expect prologues to be some sort of life changing, awesome, epic event. Tell me the story, get me into the game, and let me learn while I play.
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Obviously you have low expectations. Some people expect and want some good writing from a sequel to well written games.
 
TheRatKing said:
I never expect prologues to be some sort of life changing, awesome, epic event. Tell me the story, get me into the game, and let me learn while I play.
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Obviously you have low expectations. Some people expect and want some good writing from a sequel to well written games.
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I understand that and agree, but I'm just referring to the prologue, the opening movie before the game even starts. The entire game is a different story.

And really, Fallout 1/2 weren't really absolutely perfect in terms of writing either.
 
BarackSays said:
And really, Fallout 1/2 weren't really absolutely perfect in terms of writing either.
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Not perfect at all. And yet, vastly superior.
 
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