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Okay, so the British government say that they were in Iraqi waters. The Iranians say that they weren't, and claim that the personnel have admitted to being in Iranian waters, but can we trust that? On the BBC News last night they said that the Americans also said we were in Iraqi waters, so it would seem to be a moot point.
More to the point, is it not somewhat serious that Iran has forcibly taken fifteen British service personnel prisoner? What's going to happen now?
So, uhm, discuss.
Royal Navy personnel seized at gunpoint by Iran in the Gulf have admitted being in the country's waters, an Iranian general has claimed.
Gen Ali Reza Afshar told Iranian media the 15 personnel were being interrogated, but were in good health.
The Foreign Office could not say where the group was being held. It insists they had not been in Iranian waters.
Earlier, minister Lord Triesman met with the Iranian ambassador in London to demand their immediate release.
In the hour-long meeting, Lord Triesman also sought assurances about the group's welfare and asked that they are seen by consular staff.
Iran's Fars news agency earlier said the group, which includes one woman, was flown to Tehran, arriving in the capital at 1200 local time (0830 GMT).
But that report was later withdrawn from the agency's website.
Meanwhile, the German presidency of the European Union has demanded the immediate release of the personnel.
The 15 were seized on Friday after boarding a boat in the Gulf.
They were from HMS Cornwall, based in Plymouth - the flagship of the coalition-Iraqi force which patrols Iraqi territorial waters in the northern Gulf to combat smuggling.
They had inspected an Iraqi boat before returning to their two small boats where they were seized before being moved along the Shatt al-Arab waterway to Iranian bases.
The British task force commander, Commodore Nick Lambert, said there had been no evidence of fighting.
Lord Triesman's meeting with ambassador Rasoul Movahedian followed a meeting on Friday between Ibrahim Rahimpour, Iran's director general for Western European affairs, and the UK's charge d'affaires, Kate Smith, in Tehran.
Former Royal Navy head Admiral Sir Alan West dismissed suggestions the British boats had strayed into Iranian waters.
Sir Alan was first sea lord in 2004 when Iran detained eight British servicemen for three days after they allegedly strayed over the maritime border.
The men were paraded blindfolded and made to apologise on Iranian TV before their release was agreed.
Sir Alan told BBC News that tracking systems then had proven that the servicemen had been in Iraqi waters.
"They can do lots of smokescreens and things like that but I am absolutely clear in my mind it would have been in our waters," he said.
The Ministry of Defence has been in contact with relatives of the group.
The BBC's Bridget Kendall said the big question was whether the capture was part of a bigger political game, ahead of a UN Security Council vote in New York over further sanctions against Iran's nuclear programme.
But Sadegh Ziba Kalam, professor of politics at Tehran University, dismissed the idea that the seizure was a political move ahead of the vote.
"Everyone knows that would not change anything," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
The seizure also follows claims that much of the violence against UK forces in Basra is being engineered by Iranian elements, which Tehran denies.
Okay, so the British government say that they were in Iraqi waters. The Iranians say that they weren't, and claim that the personnel have admitted to being in Iranian waters, but can we trust that? On the BBC News last night they said that the Americans also said we were in Iraqi waters, so it would seem to be a moot point.
More to the point, is it not somewhat serious that Iran has forcibly taken fifteen British service personnel prisoner? What's going to happen now?
So, uhm, discuss.