master_of_flamaster
Mildly Dipped
We don't have Fox News where Woozie resides.
And what's with all the cursing and shouting man?
And what's with all the cursing and shouting man?
inane said:Well it's typical of people who are closed minded to ridicule what they do not understand. I don't know whether or not to believe that about him but it's not my right to judge and I refuse to deny that there's a spiritual world or alien worlds, in fact I'm Taoist so I CANNOT.
inane said:Ever wonder why there hasn't been a major commercial crash on land since the sixties? I have and I've discovered why. If you believe that all the people on a flight would allow hijackers to take a plane with box cutters you're a fucking moron.
Oh and Wooz, you prejudice moron, the only thing I ever listen to in my car is NPR and I have subscriptions to only three known commercial publications, The Las Vegas Journal, Newsweek and the The New York Times (west coast edition). Fuck off and go watch some more Fox News Channel.
Roshambo said:inane said:Well it's typical of people who are closed minded to ridicule what they do not understand...
Liar. (In fact, I could pretty much say "How dare you?") Else you would strive to not make gross un-harmonious inaccuracies like this:
inane said:Ever wonder why there hasn't been a major commercial crash on land since the sixties...
You do not bother to use any sense of reason in your connection there, instead you seem to equate commercial land crashes = hijackers. Do you care to know how many Taoist principles you violate in that alone? Or how about in the rest of your rather ignorant tirade and other crass quantifications? There is also no Harmonious Action involved with unsubstantial bullshit without any backing - pholisophy is one thing, bullshit like Scientology is another. I also find it amusing that you could believe that someone could pull "free energy" out from their ass without proof, because one of the fundamental aspects of Taoism is Cyclical Growth. Cause, effect, death and birth...
Ashmo said:Could we fork the chicken thread and join the bird flu discussion into this one?
I don't think his ego can handle the possibility of spreading all that bullshit across that many threads.
Oh and Wooz, you prejudice moron
the only thing I ever listen to in my car is NPR and I have subscriptions to only three known commercial publications
Fuck off
and go watch some more Fox News Channel.
Wooz said:Oh and Wooz, you prejudice moron
Comedy gold in itself. Becomes platinum juxtaposed with the following sentence:
the only thing I ever listen to in my car is NPR and I have subscriptions to only three known commercial publications
"Prejudiced" allright.
Fuck off
You bore me, mageling. Mouthing off doesn't improve your already laughable situation.
and go watch some more Fox News Channel.
I don't watch television, let alone Fucks News. Your "Harder Core Than Thou" attitude, coupled with the Rebel Rage(TM) is amusing.
What's going to be even more amusing will be your pathetic attempts to "prove a point" to Roshambo by insults, writing words in Caps Lock, pulling far-eastern thinkers' quotes out of your ass and typing obscenely stupid "truths" about magic black boxes, life and death, and for some reason, 9/11.
inane said:Look at the numbers in any other country and also take into account how many flights there are in the US compared to these other countries SINCE the sixties. Anyway, no one seems to even want to listen or use previously observed info from their learning past to realize how utterly bizarre this is.
"8. May 25, 1979. As an American Airlines DC-10 lifts from the runway at Chicago's O'Hare airport, an engine detaches and seriously damages a wing. Before its crew can make sense of the situation, the airplane rolls 90 degrees and disintegrates in a huge fireball about a mile beyond the runway. With 273 fatalities, this remains the worst-ever crash on US soil. Both the engine pylon design and airline maintenance procedures were faulted by NTSB investigators, and all DC-10s were temporarily grounded."
01-22-05 - OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (AP) — A twin-engine plane crashed shortly after takeoff and was reduced to "bits and pieces" after it crashed into a home in a Kansas City suburb, killing all five people on board and leaving a fiery trail of destruction in the well-to-do neighborhood.
inane said:Don't claim to understand what you don't Roshambo. Growth isn't even in the vocabulary.
Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.
Existence without limitation is space. Continuity without a starting point is time. There is birth, there is death, there is issuing forth, there is entering in. That through which one passes in and out without seeing its form, that is the Portal of God. -Chuang Tzu 23
I also find it amusing that you could believe that someone could pull "free energy" out from their ass without proof, because one of the fundamental aspects of Taoism is Cyclical Growth. Cause, effect, death and birth...
Taoism isn't the automatic gangsay of new view points. It also doesn't teach you to ignore new viable view points. What everyone is telling me here are propositions which are common and TYPICAL.
My main point for bringing up Taoism was that it teaches me that there ARE spirit worlds but that we do not know all of them.
Being Taoist does NOT automatically make you more peaceable or non argumentative.
It is a LONG process with which my being 23 years old should show that I probably wouldn't be far along in following it's teachings but that does not mean that I do not hold it's constituents in my heart,
it means that I am hard headed and have a long way to go.
Pretty much I'm an asshole when it comes to these type of things but I'm better than 2 years ago and I wouldn't make a pimple on a monks butt.
Besides, find me one overland crash involving a commercial jet (that being one with a black box; terrorist or otherwise) in the US since the sixties. We're speaking of a buzz buzz plane in the air overland coming down. Look at the numbers in any other country and also take into account how many flights there are in the US compared to these other countries SINCE the sixties. Anyway, no one seems to even want to listen or use previously observed info from their learning past to realize how utterly bizarre this is.
Ever wonder why there hasn't been a major commercial crash on land since the sixties? I have and I've discovered why. If you believe that all the people on a flight would allow hijackers to take a plane with box cutters you're a fucking moron.
How is it obscenely stupid? You should sit and read what I wrote. The tech is there, they'd be stupid NOT to use it for what I'd said. Ok, sorry Roshambo, I'll drop it now.
Historical Perspective: Commercial Aviation Terrorism and Air Marshals
Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS)
First Phase
The first major act of criminal violence against a U.S. airliner occurred on November 1, 1955, when Jack Graham, hoping to collect his mother's life insurance policy, placed a bomb in luggage belonging to his mother and killed all 44 people on board a Denver-bound plane.
Of the 177 worldwide hijacking attempts between 1958 and 1969, 80 percent originated in the Western Hemisphere and 77 percent either originated in Cuba or were efforts to divert planes to Cuba.
The incidents involving Cuba happened in several distinct phases. The first wave of hijackings began in 1958, after Fidel Castro had taken control of Cuba. Those hijackings were primarily attempts by anti-Castro individuals to divert Cuban planes to the United States. A number of Cuban boats were also hijacked to the United States. Immediately after the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961, the direction of the hijackings reversed and there was a wave of diversions of U.S. planes to Cuba, many of these carried out by Cuban exiles.
In late 1961, President John F. Kennedy initiated the first U.S. sky marshal program as a deterrent to these increased hijackings to and from Cuba. The U.S. government began using marshals on commercial planes when requested by the airlines or the FBI. In September of 1961, President John F. Kennedy signed legislation that prescribed the death penalty or at least 20 years' imprisonment for air piracy.
As the program grew, Cuban hijacking attempts declined rapidly. Only a handful of hijacking incidents occurred between 1962-1967.
Throughout the early to late 1960s, sky marshal staffing levels were kept quite low. However, in 1968, the nature of hijackings began to enter a new phase.
Transportation Hijackings
The first American hijacking attempt in 1968 occurred on February 9, when a U.S. Marine unsuccessfully attempted to hijack a military charter flight out of South Vietnam. The first attempt in the United States followed shortly thereafter, on February 17, 1968, when a private plane was hijacked from Florida to Cuba. Four days later the first hijacking of a scheduled Kirline flight to Cuba was attempted, committed by an escaped murderer. A myriad of similar incidents followed. In 1968, a total of 19 hijackings of domestic U.S. flights to Cuba plus a hijacking of a U.S. registered plane from the Bahamas to Cuba were committed.
The hijacking pattern of 1968 continued in 1969, the most prolific year for hijacking incidents in the United States. Many of the hijackers sought Cuba. Airliners carried approach plans for the Havana airport and crews were instructed not to resist hijackers. However, in October 1969, an AWOL Marine named Raphael Minichiello boarded a Los Angeles-San Francisco flight and hijacked it to Rome. That incident set a record for greatest distance traveled by a hijacker. Ten days later there was a hijacking attempt by a 14-year-old boy in Cincinnati who, his mother claimed, had been influenced by the publicity.
Following the hijacking of eight airliners to Cuba in January 1969, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) created the Task Force on the Deterrence of Air Piracy. The Task Force developed a hijacker “profile” that could be used along with metal detectors in screening passengers. In October, Eastern Air Lines began using the system, and four more airlines followed in 1970.
Although far more hijackings occurred in the United States than in any other country, hijacking was now a worldwide concern. Peak years for transportation hijacking outside the United States were 1969 and 1970. Between 1968 and 1972, there were almost as many hijackings to Cuba from outside the United States as there were from within. The majority of those incidents took place in Latin America. In addition to the foreign hijackings to Cuba, there were 22 attempts to hijack planes from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, a number of transportation hijackings in the Middle East, as well as many isolated incidents around the world.
Extortion Hijackings
In the 1968-72 period, extortion became a new reason for hijackings. The first extortion attempt during the peak period occurred outside the United States. Following the Arab Israeli war of 1967 and the hijacking and diversion to Algeria of a plane carrying Congonese political leader Moise Tshombe, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP) hijacked an Israeli airliner to Algiers on July 23, 1968 (Phillips 1973). With the cooperation of the Algerian government, the hijackers demanded Israel free a number of Palestinian guerrillas in return for the release of the passengers. That incident was followed by a series of incidents related to Middle East terrorist groups. The first extortion hijacking in the United States, the first modern hijacking for money, occurred in June 1970 when Arthur Barkley held a plane hostage at Dulles Airport, demanding a $100 million ransom from the U.S. government, until he was eventually over-powered.
For almost a year after Barkley's attempt, extortion hijackings occurred exclusively outside the United States. In September of 1970, the simultaneous hijacking by the PFLP of two American planes and a Swiss plane, along with an unsuccessful attempt to hijack an Israeli plane occurred. Three days later a British plane was also hijacked. Three of the planes were taken to an airstrip in Jordan, the fourth to Cairo, and all were later destroyed by explosives.
These events convinced the White House that a more robust aviation security policy was required. In September of 1970, President Richard Nixon announced a comprehensive anti-hijacking plan that included a sky marshal program to provide armed security aboard U.S. aircraft.
An increase in hijackings prior to 1972 stimulated the development of passenger-screening requirements. The goal was to identify passengers carrying metallic weapons that could be used to hijack an airplane.
The PFLP hijackings had repercussions overseas, because in the months that followed groups with political demands hijacked Costa Rican, Indian, and Iranian aircraft. It was not until the end of May 1971, that another extortion hijacking occurred in the United States. That hijacker successfully held a plane for ransom and then ordered it to fly to Nassau, Bahamas, where he was arrested.
On November 24, 1971, a man boarded a flight in Portland, Oregon, under the name of D. B. Cooper. He hijacked the plane, demanded a ransom of $200,000 and two parachutes. His demands were met and he later parachuted from the plane with the money. He was never found. However, the idea of a parachute escape did not originate with Cooper. A hijacker who held a Canadian plane for ransom just 12 days earlier had attempted unsuccessfully to bail out.
A wave of extortion attempts followed the Cooper hijacking. In the following month there were two attempts, including one by a hijacker who demanded a parachute in an apparent attempt to imitate Cooper. Of the 31 U.S. hijacking attempts in 1972,19 involved extortion and 15 were by hijackers who demanded parachutes. Of 111 total transportation-hijacking attempts between 1968 and 1972, 90 were attempts to reach Cuba. Hijacking for money also became common overseas.
Three months after the Cooper hijacking, the PFLP hijacked a West German plane, released the passengers, and held the plane for a $5 million ransom. At least eight other foreign planes were hijacked for ransom in 1972, including flights from Australia, Brazil and Indonesia, by individuals who planned D.B. Cooper-style parachute escapes.
With the formation of a full-time sky marshal program and a greater emphasis placed on aviation security in general, the hijacking rate in the United States began to decline in late 1972. In 1974, the FAA was delegated exclusive responsibility to direct law enforcement efforts for aircraft in-flight. Program staffing went down significantly and stayed at those levels until 1985.
inane said:Screw you guys, I'm going home!
inane said:(Snip more irrelevancy with the same consistency and irrationality as most wicca, Scientologists, and Mormons, that it would impress any of the three as to the amount of spin.)
Secondarily, how many of these hijackers used box cutters in the past? That's what I thought, NONE!!!! Any of the hijackers that used anything less than a gun ("HIGH" jackers) were only ATTEMPTS. It shows it in your little quote there Rosh. They do not mess with hijackers that use guns. Why should they? How many bullets do they have? How many people could they kill?
Look up hijack at Dictionary.com
1923, Amer.Eng., from high(way) + jacker "one who holds up." Originally "to rob (a bootlegger, smuggler, etc.) in transit;" sense of "seizing an aircraft in flight" is 1968 (also in 1961 variant skyjack), extended 1970s to any form of public transportation.
(Snip more clueless, unbased rabmling.)
The change of my avatar shows true colors for only this forum. You take the weakest, or what you think is the weakest argument of mine and distort it, then attack it with a combination of revelry and disregard for the fact that there is a human being on the other side.
You use stupid links that have proved nothing to try and contradict my stronger arguments.
You automatically curse any view point that goes against what you're taught from organizations that get their data en masse from another organization who in turn get it from another organization who get it from this bureau who get it from some fucking twat's uncle's cousin's wife until it's hard to say what the original source was. Add to that they'll color any story any way you like as long as the base is green.
Anyway, I'm not wanted here so like a negro in the deep south, I'm moving North. Have FUN!!! GOOD LUCK!!! AND HAVE A GREAT LIFE!!!
"I NOEZ OF ICANN & U DONT COS IM TEH SMARTEST OLOLOLOLOL!!!11" God, you're fucking moron. ICANN can't make changes to the DNS without the approval from the US Department of Commerce (you know, the very department which spawned them). "Independent" indeed. I assume you're also ignorant of the fact that DNS isn't essential to the functioning of the Internet, or that it is a distributed system. ICANN only assigns the top-level domain names (i.e. domains of large, world-spanning and nation-spanning networks, like .com, .biz, .us, .de, .cz, .hr etc.), while lower-level domains are under control of national bodies. So if I wanted to set up a home server and name it www.destroyamerica.hr, I would request the domain from SRCE, which is the roof Croatian organization in charge of all Internet-related activity (including DNS). ICANN would neither know nor care about this.inane said:The truth is available while the DNS system stays with the non-profit organization in California (not for long, trust me). You probably don't even know THEIR name do you? Good luck finding anything electronically once that ceases to be.
Good thing you provided ample weak arguments to shoot down.The change of my avatar shows true colors for only this forum. You take the weakest, or what you think is the weakest argument of mine and distort it, then attack it with a combination of revelry and disregard for the fact that there is a human being on the other side.
"Arguments"? Sounded more like incoherent ramblings of an uneducated dimwit.You use stupid links that have proved nothing to try and contradict my stronger arguments.
Are you sure you're 23? You sound like you're 13, and mildly retarded to boot.You automatically curse any view point that goes against what you're taught from organizations that get their data en masse from another organization who in turn get it from another organization who get it from this bureau who get it from some fucking twat's uncle's cousin's wife until it's hard to say what the original source was. Add to that they'll color any story any way you like as long as the base is green.
Good. One less idiot around.Anyway, I'm not wanted here so like a negro in the deep south, I'm moving North. Have FUN!!! GOOD LUCK!!! AND HAVE A GREAT LIFE!!!