Italy pulling out

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ROME – Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, one of Washington’s most ardent supporters in Iraq, signaled his intention Tuesday to withdraw Italian troops from the country beginning in September. That would make Italy the latest country to reduce or eliminate its military contingent in the U.S.-led force.

With the newly elected National Assembly set to meet for the first time today, representatives from Shiite Muslim and Kurdish parties continued talks aimed at reaching agreement on broad policy objectives for a new government, including how to deal with the insurgency. Sources on both sides of the negotiations said agreement was close.

A final accord on policy goals would smooth the way for the formation of a coalition government with Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the interim vice president who heads the Shiite Dawa party, serving as prime minister. Jalal Talabani, a key Kurdish leader, would fill the ceremonial post of president. But appointment of the government could be days or weeks away, Iraqis involved in the talks said.

Italy, with about 3,000 soldiers in the country, is the fourth-largest contributor of foreign military forces in Iraq after the United States, Britain and South Korea. Following the March 4 killing of an Italian intelligence agent by U.S. troops near the Baghdad airport, Berlusconi has come under new public pressure to take a cue from other countries that are withdrawing their troops from Iraq.

On Monday, 160 troops from the Netherlands arrived home as part of a phased Dutch withdrawal. On Tuesday, Ukraine welcomed back more than 130 members of its 1,650-person force and has said it would complete a pullout by October. Poland plans to remove a few hundred of its 1,700 soldiers this summer and the rest by early 2006.

-Tribnet


So... One more pulls out. Leaving the US troops that much more under manned. They can no longer attempt to claim they are "Canadian" or "Polish" to avoid some conflicts as I heard many troops say on occasion. Would it now be wise for the US to pull out before things get worse? Or should they just pile on the robot troops?


Current troop levels

• United States, 150,000 (no end date; withdrawing 12,000 over next few months)

• Britain, 8,000 (no end date)

• South Korea, 3,600 (mission ends Dec. 31)

• Italy, 3,000 (no end date, but plans to begin reducing number in September)

• Poland, 1,700 (plans to withdraw several hundred in July; mission to end Dec. 31 or early 2006)

• Ukraine, 1,500 (137 recently withdrawn; 550 to leave by May 15; rest by Oct. 15)

• Georgia, 850 (no end date)

• Romania, 800 (no end date)

• Japan, 550 (expires Dec. 14)

• Denmark, 530 (mission ends in June; six-month extension expected)

• Bulgaria, 460 (mission ends midyear; likely to be renewed to Dec. 31)

• El Salvador, 380 (ends in August)

Countries that have withdrawn

• The Netherlands, 1,400; 150 returned home Feb. 21; rest to follow by April 30

• Spain, 1,300

• Thailand, 423

• Honduras, 370

• Dominican Republic, 302

• Hungary, 300

• Singapore, 160

• Norway, 150; left 16 liaison officers

• Nicaragua, 115

• Portugal, 127

• New Zealand, 60

• Philippines, 51

• Tonga, 44

• Moldova, 12
 
This was no surprise. As if the Italian government had any choice. Considering the unpopularity of the war, I think the government's hands were tied.
 
Well first, pulling out early never works. Or so I'm told. Wrap that weasel!

Second, elections in Italy (according to CNN.com) are coming up, and to give his party a handicap Berlusconi the Tax Evader and Media Kingpin is withdrawing the troops, at a very politically foruitous time. What a douche.
 
It's the same here - presidential elections will be held soon, and the popularity of the operation is diminishing. All in all, Kwasniewski is not running for re-election (having served two terms already) so the soldiers are going to stayn at least until the elections, but are more than likely to come back soon after that. Also, the upkeep of the expeditionary corps is becoming a significant expense...

I kind of admire the Koreans, they've sent a large force and they haven't been threatened to draw them back, in fact , they sent a few thousand more... And they're Asians, so they should take part is solving Asian problems :D
 
Going to a protest this Saturday, to withdraw coalition troops and istaure a proper peacekepping force.
 
Stay home and have a beer, mate :P

Really, Poland can't change squat in terms of what's actually going to happen in there and our chaps are coming home anyway.
 
Wooz said:
Going to a protest this Saturday, to withdraw coalition troops and istaure a proper peacekepping force.

Me too. I guess that means it's an international protest.

Unfortuantely these antiwar protests are getting pretty pathetic in Denmark. I was at one last year, where only about 300 people showed up.
 
Silencer said:
Really, Poland can't change squat in terms of what's actually going to happen in there and our chaps are coming home anyway.

Conformist.

Flop said:
Me too. I guess that means it's an international protest.

The day the war started, mate.
 
Wooz said:
Flop said:
Me too. I guess that means it's an international protest.

The day the war started, mate.

Hey, so it is. I just heard about the demonstration earlier today, so pieces hadn't come together yet. :)

The demonstration I was at last year, where 300 people showed up was at that date too. I wonder how many will show up this time.

*edit* corrected the quote
 
By the way, Berlusconi (the Cocksucking Midget) stated the day after the first statement (and after having his leash violently pulled by Bush AND Blair), that he didn't say what he said. Or at least we heard wrong. And if you attack his positions you're a bloody commie.
Thus, italian troops are staying, as long as Bush (the Idiot Circus Boy) says so. Hooray for democracy & freedom! ...if anybody knows where they both are anymore.
 
John Uskglass said:
Wooz said:
Going to a protest this Saturday, to withdraw coalition troops and istaure a proper peacekepping force.
Yeah, cause that's worked so often before.

Wow, watch him defend the merits of democracy and freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech is an empty right if nobody believes there's an point to expressing it. Sad.
 
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