Japan's take on Post-apocalyptic fiction?

Sn1p3r187

Carolinian Shaolin Monk
When I check out stuff like Akira or Neon Genesis Evangelion I always seem to notice a trend in the way they depict post-apocalyptic fiction. Like for Akira it's set 31 years after a nuclear World War III (38 years in the manga, happened in 1992 and set in 2030) and technology and a city like Neo-Tokyo are so technologically advanced that it would make modern stuff look small time in comparison to Akira's version of the future in 2019. Same thing with Neo Genesis Evangelion. Set 15 years after an apocalyptic impact event in 2000. Technology seems to be so advanced that like Akira it makes ours look and pale in comparison. My question is why? Are the Japanese more optimistic or realistic then Westerners idea of an apocalyptic event? Are they really so certain that we'd be that advanced after a small setback that gives us a reason to put more funding towards science and education? If so, that'd make something like the environment in Fallout kinda redundant after 25 years if the U.S government is still alive and willing to restore order. But what do you guys think?
 
Well, Japan already knows what nuclear bombs do to cities. They know how quickly you can rebuild it, and they also lack the american romanticism when it comes to post-apocalyptic survival against roving gangs of murderers.
However, it's not like ALL japanese PA fiction is like Akira or NGE, in fact I don't think you can compare those two with Fallout as they just have the apocalypse as a backdrop, not as the main focus (or rather, a very different apocalypse in NGE). Akira is quintessential Cyberpunk, and Cyberpunk often involved a (limited) nuclear war that did not result in total devastation.
Japanese PA also includes Fist of the North Star, which is 100% Mad Max style with magic martial arts, and stuff like Desert Punk, Eden, but also Blame! and Biomega...
So no, I don't think it's a general thing in japanese PA fiction.
 
Well, Japan already knows what nuclear bombs do to cities. They know how quickly you can rebuild it, and they also lack the american romanticism when it comes to post-apocalyptic survival against roving gangs of murderers.
However, it's not like ALL japanese PA fiction is like Akira or NGE, in fact I don't think you can compare those two with Fallout as they just have the apocalypse as a backdrop, not as the main focus (or rather, a very different apocalypse in NGE). Akira is quintessential Cyberpunk, and Cyberpunk often involved a (limited) nuclear war that did not result in total devastation.
Japanese PA also includes Fist of the North Star, which is 100% Mad Max style with magic martial arts, and stuff like Desert Punk, Eden, but also Blame! and Biomega...
So no, I don't think it's a general thing in japanese PA fiction.
I see your point there. But, if you've ever read Akira. In the manga many and many cities were hit across the world, especially Russia and the U.S. Washington D.C got hit bad. I would think that if capitals of major countries were hit between North America, Europe, and Asia I would say that's almost total devastation. But I maybe wrong there.
 
As well there are categories for a nuclear apocalypse-

Category 1: Totally screwed. These countries have lots of potential targets such as military bases. They are densely populated, and can only sustain a technological society with imports from abroad. They would be the main battlegrounds in a world war, and most of the inhabitants live in potential blast/fire and heavy fallout zones. Even if half the population were killed, there still wouldn’t be enough food, and famine would kill many otherwise healthy survivors. The government would probably fail to keep the country united, and the society 100 years hence would be very different to what went before.
Examples: The UK, Germany, South Korea.

Category 2: Heavily damaged. These countries would be very heavily bombed indeed, but are so big that large areas would escape destruction. They would lose most of their urban populations, but many rural dwellers would survive the initial strike. However, they would face an uncertain future. Such countries would face many decades of unimaginable hardships, and would probably never regain their former standards of living. But their governments might just be able to keep the country together (by fair means or foul), and the culture of the nation would probably survive, too.
Examples: The USA, Russia.

Category 3: “Lightly” damaged. These countries have few targets on home soil, and comparitively few inhabitants would die on the first day. But fallout (and refugees) from neighbouring countries could be a serious risk, and the destruction of the international trade system would cause an enormous drop in living standards. Such countries would drop from their current standards of living to a state reminiscent of today’s North Korea. The government would probably keep the country together, though, and the nation’s culture would continue.
Examples: Scandinavia, Turkey

Category 4: Initially unscathed. Some countries, especially in the Southern Hemisphere, will probably escape direct attack from either side. Furthermore, they would have enough agricultural land per inhabitant to keep everyone fed, and are far enough removed from the conflict to avoid major fallout and refugee problems. However, such countries will have lost their major trading partners, and so will experience a 1930s-style depression. No one “wins” a nuclear war, but these places would lose least.
Examples: New Zealand, Chile

Category 5: Unscathed, but still screwed. These countries would escape attack and severe fallout, but are so dependent on imports to sustain their populations that they would be in dire straits. This is especially true of those countries that also have significant internal divisions, which would be exacerbated by the sudden lack of imports.
Examples: Nigeria, Bangladesh, Haiti
 
I see your point there. But, if you've ever read Akira. In the manga many and many cities were hit across the world, especially Russia and the U.S. Washington D.C got hit bad. I would think that if capitals of major countries were hit between North America, Europe, and Asia I would say that's almost total devastation. But I maybe wrong there.
Sure, but I meant that the apocalypse isn't the main part of the setting. It's a backdrop that explains why the world is how it is, especially in Cyberpunk. Like, the world is heavily balkanised, everything is shitty (but not radioactive desert shitty), corporations are in charge, that kind of stuff. It's not the focus of the setting, unlike with Fallout or Fist of the North Star where the apocalypse is everywhere, you can't forget about it.
 
Sure, but I meant that the apocalypse isn't the main part of the setting. It's a backdrop that explains why the world is how it is, especially in Cyberpunk. Like, the world is heavily balkanised, everything is shitty (but not radioactive desert shitty), corporations are in charge, that kind of stuff. It's not the focus of the setting, unlike with Fallout or Fist of the North Star where the apocalypse is everywhere, you can't forget about it.
So I guess America in Fallout went through a totally screwed situation?
 
Huge HNK fan, duh my avatar. I second checking out HNK(Fist of the North Star) older 80's ultra violent anime spawned a lot of tropes you see in later series. Kurosawa meets Spaghetti Western in a Mad Max world with a dash of Shaw Bros Kung Fu. AH-TATATATATATATA
 
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