Knives knives knives!

[Member of Khans]

It's kinda funny that a lot of guys want martial looking blades, while I like knifes a lot more when they do NOT resemble a weapon (the Ka-Bar being the one exception). Dunno why. I am a pacifist, yes, but a gun nut as well, after all.

Anyway, besides kitchen cutlery, I don't have many knifes. Just my Fällknivens and those two:



Marttiini Puukko and Victorinox Huntsman SAK.

Both I had since I was like 12. And both where used to dead. The SAK has been extensively carried, up to the point where the Swiss emblem is all rubbed off. I keep all blades razor sharp, though.

I really appreciate good tools.

[as a sidenote: I would EDC a small one-hand folder, if it wasn't for our retarded law]



DexterMorgan: I just like the clear line of the CS SRK you posted. From the point of mere aesthetics, I'd probably go with that. nutnfancy agrees

 

[DexterMorgan]

May I ask why you need a "no-nonsense survival knife"? Is it something that will be sitting on a shelf or are you going to get some practical use out of it?

I'm just building my own small survival kit for future planned outdoor activities, and a good knife is essential. Plus I like weapons and have trained in knife combat. Not looking for a combat knife though.

DexterMorgan: I just like the clear line of the CS SRK you posted. From the point of mere aesthetics, I'd probably go with that. nutnfancy agrees

I've been reading a lot about this stuff lately and ColdSteel is fairly controversial in the knife-lovers community. SRK is a nice blade though, even though some people laud the switch from CarbonV to a more rust resistant but relatively duller AUS8 steel.

I am getting more and more fond of Fallknivens. I think I'll get the S1 if I can find it here, maybe even A1.

 

[welsh]

Knife if the First Special Service Force-

If you want nostalgia.

 

[Kahgan]

It's kinda funny that a lot of guys want martial looking blades, while I like knifes a lot more when they do NOT resemble a weapon (the Ka-Bar being the one exception). Dunno why. I am a pacifist, yes, but a gun nut as well, after all.

That's because people want knives that look "scary" but still hold some value as a tool ("survival" knives ) and have no knowledge what so ever of how knives that are meant for killing (In which case, it is rarely still a knife) actually does look like, and no knowledge of how knives meant for working (which is the only sensible purpose of a knife btw) look like. And it's just those people who make knives banned in countries like Norway, because people think that knives are weapons, which, by all means, they do become when people think that way.

If you want a good "survival" knife, look at knives from history made by and used by people who's lives actually depended on these tools.

 

[Deleted member 53669]

Knife if the First Special Service Force-

If you want nostalgia.

Fairbairn and Sykes FTW!

I always wanted a combat dagger. Something specifically designed to thrust in between ribs and into kidneys.

"Slitting the throat in SF history has been a technique used but not preferred because it can me lengthy and unpleasant for both parties.

 

[Carib FMJ]

SOG Bowie 2.0

From left to right - Kurki (Ontario Company), KA-Bar and Blackhawk Night edge

 

[patriot_41]

That Bowie knife is beautiful.

 

[Member of Khans]

SOG Bowie 2.0

I like, I like

And it's just those people who make knives banned in countries like Norway, because people think that knives are weapons, which, by all means, they do become when people think that way.

Naaah, it's rather the kiddies who stabbed each other with 10 € Balisongs, which lead to the conclusion that all knifes of the kind 13 y/o wannabe gangstas carry are teh evil. Now, you can go to jail over here, for merely OWNING a Balisong. The kids just moved to one-handed folders

If you want a good "survival" knife, look at knives from history made by and used by people who's lives actually depended on these tools.

I beg to differ. Why? Because tradition always plays a great role in that kind of things, and traditions, while often originating from practical constraints, are most times rather counterproductive.
For example, look at a puukko. It served many Scandinavian people well as a bushcraft, hunting and survival blade. Would you choose one today? Nope, because it doesn't have a handguard, finger grooves or anything which prevents your hand from sliping forwards to the blade. Just sayin'.
That doesn't mean traditional survival knives couldn't be a great choice (a Bowie, for example) but I'd rather think twice before choosing one on this basis.

 

[Kahgan]

And it's just those people who make knives banned in countries like Norway, because people think that knives are weapons, which, by all means, they do become when people think that way.

Naaah, it's rather the kiddies who stabbed each other with 10 € Balisongs, which lead to the conclusion that all knifes of the kind 13 y/o wannabe gangstas carry are teh evil. Now, you can go to jail over here, for merely OWNING a Balisong. The kids just moved to one-handed folders

Well, who needs a Balisong anyway?

If you want a good "survival" knife, look at knives from history made by and used by people who's lives actually depended on these tools.

I beg to differ. Why? Because tradition always plays a great role in that kind of things, and traditions, while often originating from practical constraints, are most times rather counterproductive.
For example, look at a puukko. It served many Scandinavian people well as a bushcraft, hunting and survival blade. Would you choose one today? Nope, because it doesn't have a handguard, finger grooves or anything which prevents your hand from sliping forwards to the blade. Just sayin'.
That doesn't mean traditional survival knives couldn't be a great choice (a Bowie, for example) but I'd rather think twice before choosing one on this basis.

A good point, but looking at european history, there are too much on the experimental side that shows otherwise. Like the huge zweihanders for example. And honestly, I would easily choose a puukko over a generic modern "survival" knife, and I know people who swear by because of it's reliable simplicity, and even use it instead of the standard issue army knife. I can see the need of a handguard in some circumstances, but I have never ever cut myself on a knife because it was lacking one, it basically comes down to using the knife in proper ways. And personally, I can't stand those handles with finger grooves, they are there in an assumption that a knife can only be held in one way, and so they limit a variation in gripping the knife.

Actually, to the OP, if you want a good no nonsense survival knife, the puukko would be one of my recommendations, a good old fashioned bowie is a good choice too. But usually, at least in my experience with puukko's, the sheathes are crap, and you will most likely need to make a new one. But then again this is true with oh so many factory made sheathes.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Cheers but I think finding a quality puukko, or any puukko for that matter is nigh impossible where I live right now, and online ordering is also a no go.

I've fallen for the Fallkniven S1 though, it seems just right. Heavy enough for light chopping, small enough for comfortable woodwork and comfortable carrying, strong enough for digging and prying if need be, and holds edge very well.

 

[Member of Khans]

xxx

 

[Kahgan]

Have no experience with fällkniven myself, but it looks like a good knife, and tools made in sweden are generally of very nice quality, so I'd say it's a good choice.

 

[DammitBoy]

Didn't we already have aknife thread? Oh well...

My Ka-Bar: everybody should have one, best military knife evah!

My Damascus Randall Stag Hunter: Stag is awesome. Damascus is awesome. Randall is an awesome knifemaker. Which makes this knife totally awesome.

Hmmmm, I don't seem to have any photos of my other edged weapons online? Must remedy that soon...

 

[SuAside]

Knife if the First Special Service Force-

If you want nostalgia.

Fairbairn and Sykes FTW!

I always wanted a combat dagger. Something specifically designed to thrust in between ribs and into kidneys.

"Slitting the throat in SF history has been a technique used but not preferred because it can me lengthy and unpleasant for both parties.

euh.

that's NOT a F-S! that's a V-42... and some retard removed the leather padding at the hilt.

boohoo, makes me sad.

that said, this thread was about a usefull allarounder. a F-S or a V42 is NOT an allarounder.

since we got KABARs, let me throw in a russian equivalent:

DV-2

 

[Kahgan]

Heh, I always wanted one of those when I was younger, just because it is russian

 

[Carib FMJ]

Tom Brown Tracker... Very nice!

 

[Daimyo]

Norwegian garage band Yoga Fire has a new song out "Supercool with knife" and the video contains a lot of (humourus) niceness for knife people ...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIL6Ovsi1wM[/youtube]

 

[Deleted member 53669]

that's NOT a F-S! that's a V-42... and some retard removed the leather padding at the hilt.

boohoo, makes me sad.

that said, this thread was about a usefull allarounder. a F-S or a V42 is NOT an allarounder.

Okay, it's not an F-S forgive my historical fuck-up, but to burst your "All arounder bubble", this thread didn't say anything to that extent from the OP, and in tools "Which include weapons" All have specific qualities and purposes, The "Bowie, Survival" Knives of this design are not the greatest weapons and are better for utility uses compared to straight blades, for knives are not long or heavy enough to slash and kill ergonomically. The reason the military issues these is not for primarily defensive purposes, and some have the bayonet function and self-defense/sentry elimination function, but are poor comparisons to the old traditional straight bayonets and knives. So, what does "All arounder" mean exactly? A longsword is a great "All arounder weapon", but it's not very useful for chopping firewood. The axe is good for chopping firewood, and has been used as a weapon throughout history, but was poor in comparison with polearms and swords. I can also argue that a straight double-edged is easier to throw due to balance, or masturbate with than that of a curved single-edged. Everything is dependent on the exact design of the certain tool in question, and knives come in a large variety of designs.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Before the two of you kill each other, let me clarify: It was about an all-round survival knife, no gimmicks, maximum reliability.

Having already settled on the Fallkniven S1 as the primary all-round blade, I don't mind if we turn this into a knife-porn thread. Knock yourselves out

 

[SuAside]

chill out, Dopemine Cleric. it was clear enough he wanted a nice survivalist all-arounder, no?

a V-42 or a F-S doesn't fit that bill by a long shot, unless your idea of survival is stabbing people in the subclavian artery and eating them later.

anyhow, for knives in general, i really love Spydercos. i've got 2 'users', a Delica 4 and an Endura 4. both are excellent.

i used to have more flashy & more expensive knives like top of the line Benchmades, but they just don't compare as far as i'm concerned.

now, i'm thinking of getting a Salt series Spyderco (pacific salt with a black FRN handle probably) or a Native for fun.

that said, i'd definately be in the market for a nice authentic copy of the V-42.