Lord of the Rings at the Oscars

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Well, in case you didn't know for whatever reason, the Lord of the Rings: Return of the King just won all 11 oscars for which it was nominated. That ties it for most wins with Titanic and Ben Hur. I'd say they were very well deserved of all the awards, although some people here would disagree. Great work PJ!


In other Oscar stuff, I think Johnny Depp shoulda pulled off the upset, or even Bill Murray. Murray knew he wasn't gonna get it, and looked kinda pissed even when his name was announced during the nominations. His son lives down the hall form me, and he got so pissed and was yellin like a mother trucker when his dad lost, understandably. All the other awards were pretty much duly given out.
 
I now officially hate that movie. It dragged for too long and it didn't deserve eleven oscars and neither did Titanic. I don't know about Ben Hur. I hate when this happens: a movie that I saw, thought it sucked major COCK, wins more oscars than movies I did like.
 
Ah its all rigged and you know it and next year The Passion will win all 11 oscars its nominated for :roll:
 
LOTR was okay. But it didn't really deserve all eleven of the oscars.

And Titanic only won all those oscars because of all those skanks who decided that they liked Leonardo di Caprio (or however you spell his name).


Why do we have a thread about this here, as well as in TO, by the way?
 
Maybe, my Diabolical friend. I am not saying that the movie was shit. It was a good movie but not deserving 11 oscars. Looks like they are going for cash raised rather than real merit.
 
The Order is a separate entity from NMA. The Order's topics should have no bearing on NMA topics.
 
The Oscars were on? I care so little about that tripe that I didn't even know. Next topic.
 
It was so foreseeable! And now the industry selling LOTR trinkets for huge prices will, once again profit ... life goes on.

P.S. Perhaps the Oscar statue should be replaced by a staue of a hooker going down, much more realistical IMHO. ::):
 
Lord of the Rings was good, but not that good.

I am a Warhammer fanatic and I am slightly annoyed that Games Workshop is selling tonnes of the LotR crap, wasting precious space in White Dwarf (not that I have time to be bothered to read it due to schoolwork).

The tiny models of the actors are quite good though.
 
I can understand if you didn't personally like the Return of the King, but can you honestly say that there were better movies up for the awards it was up for?
Best Picture - Maybe a little controversial, but I've seen all the movies that were nominated, and Return of the King was clearly the bst
Best Director - Also maybe controversial, but without nominations for Best Actor/Actress, all the clout fell on the Director. And PJ did an excellent job.
Best Art Direction - The creativity and application in this category was clearly a cut above the rest of the movies nominated. No competition here.
Best Costume - No explanation needed.
Best Visual Effects - Also no competition. It was unbelievably better than any of the other nominated movies.
Best Makeup - Once again, the creativity, application, and design of all the makeup and makeup effects were unbelievably good.
Best Sound Mixing - This is a more technical category, rather than artistic. It was still the clear cut best, however.
Best Original Score - Being a music major, I know what makes a score good. And Howard Shore's score was far and away from any of the other contenders.
Best Song - Same thing as score. Wonderfully written and performed.
Best Adapted Screenplay - I look at this in terms of "story." The Return of the King portrayed an amazing story in terms of film. The other nominees just weren't as stimulating or intriguing in terms of film story quality.


I just that the films at this years Oscars weren't as groundbreaking or even as good as other film nominees in the past. The Return of the King was really the only "great" film of the year. That's what made it, in my opinion at least, the only real great Oscar contender and victor.
 
toresica said:
LOTR was okay. But it didn't really deserve all eleven of the oscars.
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No

The directing of the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy was, leaving the rest of its qualities asides, terrible. The adaptation of the book to the screen was predictable and trite. It deserved neither of those oscars. The rest are okay, I guess, tho' I don't agree with best picture.

toresica said:
And Titanic only won all those oscars because of all those skanks who decided that they liked Leonardo di Caprio (or however you spell his name).
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Titanic was an excellent movie. Well filmed, well acted, excellent directing, good score, etc. etc.

Eleven oscars? Meh. It was a typical oscar-getting film, so...
 
I liked LOTR, but in the last ten years the oscars have gone down hill. All it is now is a marketing and publicity schlock. :evil:

IMO, I thought Lost in Translation should have gotten best picture. That was a damn good movie.
 
I think LiT tends to be a bit overrated. It was a good movie, but I don't think it was better than RotK. I haven't seen Mystic River, so I can't really comment on that.
 
Kharn said:
toresica said:
And Titanic only won all those oscars because of all those skanks who decided that they liked Leonardo di Caprio (or however you spell his name).
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Titanic was an excellent movie. Well filmed, well acted, excellent directing, good score, etc. etc.
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Yes, it was great.

But neither LOTR or Titanic would have won so many oscars if they hadn't been as popular.
 
toresica said:
Yes, it was great.

But neither LOTR or Titanic would have won so many oscars if they hadn't been as popular.
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Duh

How would you suppose to prevend this:

1. The Oscars are high-profile because a lot of people watch it
2. A lot of peopel watch it because Oscars are given to movies that people:
a) know
b) like

The only way this can go is for the awards to become flattened out, predictable and uninteresting. If the oscars start handing out their awards to movies that makes people go "Huh, I never heard of that flick" or "I hated that movie", the entire Academy will fade into the background, and they're already having major rating problems.

If you want to know what movies are really good, sniff out some of the smaller award-givers, and try to avoid the too artsty awards (I don't like the Golden Lion myself, for instance, tho' it has been right occasionally)...

BAFTA is usually the Oscars+ more common sense.
 
Meh, LOTR deserved some of those oscars, but after about the umpteenth time they won, I switched the channel. I wouldn't have cared anyway, since I only found it by accident. Maybe "Troy" and/or "Alexander" might do really good next year. I think those movies will be great. When was the last time a horror movie won an oscar, if ever? Because "Resident Evil 2" and "Dawn of the Dead" look pretty good. "Aliens vs. Predator" has my vote too, though.
 
Paladin Solo said:
Maybe "Troy" and/or "Alexander" might do really good next year. I think those movies will be great.
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I'm still not sure about those flicks (there are two Alexanders coming up, by the way, not one).

Paladin Solo said:
When was the last time a horror movie won an oscar, if ever? Because "Resident Evil 2" and "Dawn of the Dead" look pretty good. "Aliens vs. Predator" has my vote too, though.
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Horror movies never win, as a rule, just like Fantasy and SF. Only movies with HUGE crowd support in that genre can take away an oscar

That's because the Academy, like so many people, has it's ass on backwards and equates "intelligent/serious movie" with "incomprehensible/tear-jerker movie"
 
There are somewhere around 4000+ members of the Acadamy as of now. You can only get invited into the Aca. Getting a non. in the awards is one way to get invited, you don't have to win the awards. So currently around 1/4 of the members are actors. The problem is often the wildcard section, which is the Hollywood FPG. But the biggest problem is the voter turn out, because apparently only 50-60% of votes are received every year. Contrary to popular opinion, it's quite hard to rig an award. The people who count the votes are dead serious about this job. There is a safe room in a undisclosed location(maybe changed often) where the votes are counted by 2 people. These 2 people have to sign legal binding contracts so tight that their great grand kids can get sued for leaking the award. After the votes are counted, they have to memorize them, put the results in 2 separated silver envelops, and take different routes under armed guards to the ceremony(just in case something happens to the other guy). And they have the right of the final call, meaning, they are present in all the awards. If any of them is wrong, they can rush up to the stage and call the appropriate winner.

Who knew? :)
 
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