Man, you guys are REEEEEEEALLY pissed...

[k-7]

Ratty's recipe for a game:

50% gameplay
30% graphics
15% story
5% sound

So don't dis graphics. Ugly graphics are the main reason why I don't play Fallout 2 anymore. And one of the main reasons why I can't stand any of Troika's games. Give us smooth and crispy 3D!

15% story??? nooo

It should be that way...

35%story
35% gameplay
15%graphics
15%sound


I want better graphics 2 for fallout3, but the story is more important for me. It would be really nice when u are able to see
wich weapon someone uses because u see it on the charakter
wichs weapon he´s holidng, or a "create charakter" screen, where u can change the look of your charakter like hair color and so on. More blood, more and better death animations, etc.
The sound in Fallout2 was incredible cool, so im not scared that it
will be crap in fo3.
I just want the same freedom in fo3 as in fo2, WITH better quests for bad charakters. fo is one of the only games where u can really play a bad charakter and the game change extremely because of your choices u did, but... it have to be more . More evil quests!!
Things like the ability to take people with u who dont want to come with you, so that u can go around on the map, come to a random ancounter and take a family with u to sell them somewhere.
When u finnished the game their should be a way to play unlimited on with your charakter.

in fo2 i dont liked some things,
and one of that was that u dont have the chance to get an enclave soldier. I know its because the story, but there should be some way, like a serum wich cleans your dna. Because i wanted to get the ruler of the world, the enclave is my army and im tha king
there should be a unlimited quest like u have to go on enclave patrols with 3 enclave soldiers where u have to kill everyone. U can do it everyday if u want and that forever. Or that with slaveruns, or unlimited caravans (in fo2 after some caravans the
seasons over [whyyy??]). That are the quest i love, because that
quest represent your charakter. Maybe i give a shit on the planet and all i want is bussiness with slavers u know i mean?

And one point is that i want a free beginning and a free ending. So in fo2 u came from arrayo and search a geck. No i want to came from there from where i want and i want to search for what i want. Same with the ending. U can have a ending where u rescued the planet (but there should be more than one way to do that) and the other is u are evil ruler of the world, or the world is destroyed because of you, etc. More options as in fo2 so that the people can play that game for ever and after 20 years they found new quests ^^

peace

 

[NgInE]

sound if a very importand and underrated part of a game.

 

[k-7]

yeah, the sound in fo2 was damn nice. The best i heard was that at the enclave and at
random encounters at the dessert... uuuuhh feel tha situation

 

[Chronus]

Swiff: You're damn right on all those points.
I just wish Chuckie could know how much we hate him and his game.
Hey, how about some of you guys who live in the US break into his home and spray-paint his walls and maybe he'll take a hint?
OR, maybe i'll take the first plane to Chuckieville and see to it that he doesn't make another Piece Of Shit(Chuckie Inc. TM) game ever more..

 

[flatlinedeath666]

Why just a simple B&E and vandalizing? I mean, he did completely utterly and totally ruin Fallout, right? You should burn down his house after tying his family to his bed and then take him outside and jam copies of Run Like Hell and BOS, right?

....Or maybe we should all just calm down and realize that BOS is just a videogame, completely ignore it if you don't like it, and keep your fingers crossed for Fallout 3? Supposedly IPLY is checking out a demo version of it today, please pretty please don't let IPLY fuck it up....

 

[k-7]

Fallout is no videogame, fallout is a RELIGION!!!!!

And we should show him what Fallout is...., Lets build an
Power Armor, buy a Minigun or better, a rocketlauncher...

Then we make the same like in fo2 at that horrigan ancounter.
Yes, we make an example! Take his family out and let the
other programmers watch so they know that they don´t should
fuck with us!

 

[Chronus]

Fallout is no videogame, fallout is a RELIGION!!!!!

And we should show him what Fallout is...., Lets build an
Power Armor, buy a Minigun or better, a rocketlauncher...

Then we make the same like in fo2 at that horrigan ancounter.
Yes, we make an example! Take his family out and let the
other programmers watch so they know that they don´t should
fuck with us!

Yes, then they would hear us roar....

 

[Briosafreak]

Religion?... Nope

Flatline: Interplay not screwing things up? Highly unlikely, don`t you think

 

[Radish]

Some of you cut with the dull edge of the knife, don'tcha? Swiffer was not expressing his own opinions, but summarizing (and exaggerating) what he observed to be the dominant opinions of others in this forum.

 

[flatlinedeath666]

Yeah, Swiffer was being fesicious as hell... It was a sarcastic joke but I guess most people just didn't pick up on the humor...

 

[Ozrat]

Perhaps subconsciously we just didn't want to realize that (s)he was joking and proceeded to bash the concept that was provided for our dissection.

Either way, we still had a good thread here.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

Are you insulting Fallout 2?. Fallout 2 was equal to, if not greater than Fallout 1.

Despite the lack of real options available to the player for the ending.

And whats with you and this RPG business. There are many great RPG's that arn't turn based, 3rd person or singleplayer. Morrowind,

Attack of the Cliffracer syndrome. After about 3 days, the game becomes little more than an item hunt. A fun item hunt, but an item hunt none the less with no real challenges.

Baldurs gate 1 and 2,

Ie combat = teh suxx0r.

arcanum,

Which is a good game despite it's horribly flawed combat system.

daggerfall,

No argument there.

icewind dale 1 and 2,

IE Combat again.

diablo 1 and 2.

No, we're talking about RPG's here.

Don't talk out of your ass.

Now there's a man who could take some of his own advice.

Then we have Fallout which has a great story, is a decent challenge alll through-out the game, has a variety of good endings (talk, combat, stealth and "join the bad guy") and a solid and well-done combat system.

 

[Daemon Spawn]

Yeah, Swiffer was being fesicious as hell... It was a sarcastic joke but I guess most people just didn't pick up on the humor...

facetious

Yeah kind of surprising the crowd didn't pick up on it sooner. Of COURSE if you like F2 as much as F1 you're a REAL fan dammit. Swiffer was just poking fun at the very stubborn and uncompromising attitudes we all have towards the games. (not that it's a bad thing)

good thread btw

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

I just saw the BOS trailer and it looks to be the next Daikatana.

But from all the posts I've viewed in this forum, I get the impression that:

ALL consoles are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

I have a GameBoy Advance that I keep near my toilet for when I have nothing to read during those long sits on the throne.

ALL action games are crap, if you like them, you're a moron.

Depends on the game. Unfortunately, the trend in action games lately has been simplification and dumbing them down. Fallout Enforcer with it's autoaiming system built right in is pretty dumbed down.

ALL Fallout games other than Fallout 1 are garbage. If you like any of them, you're not a "real" Fallout fan.

Fallout 1 was the best one. Fallout 2 wasn't terrible, but it was a rushed project and it shows in a number of ways. The same thing goes for Fallout Tactics.

ALL RPGs, other than turn-based, 3rd-person view, single player RPGs, are crap. If you like them you're a moron.

I like turn based CRPGs with gobs and gobs of options in combat. That isn't to say I hate real time CRPGs automatically by default, though. I really liked Prince of Qin, not for the combat but for the setting and other things. The combat was just okay in it and it was real time. I'd certainly rather play Prelude to Darkness or Temple of Elemental Evil for the combat though.

And finally...

"Chucky" is the antichrist. He should be tortured to death and his family exterminated.

No, he's just an evil Mexican pimp.

 

[Montez]

How can you possibly say that? The graphics of Fallout and Fallout 2 were nice in the nineties (when I still had a 15" screen), but when I play those games nowadays on my 19" screen, I find the graphics totally crappy. Fallout Tactics has superior graphics: higher resolutions, anti-aliased tiles, anti-aliased characters. Or wait, you are of course referring to the hairy Deathclaws, right? You hate all, all of the graphics in Fallout Tactics because the Deathclaws have hair and aren't reptile-like as they were in Fallout and Fallout 2? Hm. Right. Okay. I get it.

Yes, the resolution and quality of the engine Tactics used is far superior to Fallout's. The overall color scheme and palette used is far, far uglier in Tactics though, and for me that's more important than resolution or pixelation. The deathclaws were goofy looking but they had nothing to do with my opinion of the graphics - I have no idea why you assumed that.

 

[Mad Larkin]

Well isn't it obvious? we like Fallout 1&2, so we loathe FO:T only because the deathclaws were hairy.
EVERYONE knows that ALL fallout fans HATE everything changed in FOT.
[/sarcasm]
Everyone except us fans apparently

 

[Montez]

I truly have no idea where the sarcasm begins or ends in this thread - it's like we're all trapped in that Simpsons episode about Lollapalooza.

"Dude, are you being sarcastic?"
"I don't even know anymore...."

 

[The physopathic Polock]

I truly have no idea where the sarcasm begins or ends in this thread - it's like we're all trapped in that Simpsons episode about Lollapalooza.

"Dude, are you being sarcastic?"
"I don't even know anymore...."

Even more ironic: $OS has a Lollapalooza contest!

 

[agent_c]

Ratty's recipe for a game:

50% gameplay
30% graphics
15% story
5% sound

My recepie for a good game

50% Gameplay
35% Story
10% Graphics
5% Anything else you want to throw in

Recepie for a sellable game

98% Graphics
1% Bribes to reviewers
1% Box

 

[Al Bundy]

i didn't mind the hairy deathclaws in FO:T (besides,why are they orange-brown in F2? that is not skin color you know...)
what got me is that they have EARINGS!!!1did you ever notice that?earings on deathclaws,give me a break-they look like mutated gipsies....