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Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Tiny Tim, Sep 13, 2016.
its better than even wasteland2, maybe you should just get the second one?
I agree, Morrowind is a good introduction to real RPGs - streamlined but still an RPG through & through. Going through Morrowind would also give you incentive to play Daggerfall, which is just platinum as far as RPGs goes.
Take those Morrowind recommendations with a truck load of salt, personally i think Morrowind is one of the most overrated steaming pile of shit I've ever had the misfortune of torturing myself with.
Id also take the divinity original sin recommendation with a cup of salt. I found that one to be terribly generic and avery poor hybrid attempt between diablo and fallout.
Still a good introduction to the genre though, regardless of whether you like the game or not. Not too watered down but not too intimidating or heavy for newcomers. Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines is another title like that, although the game is somewhat... yeah...
I disagree. Few games out there play like Morrowind does and if he needs a good introduction into the genre then surely there is a better game to suggest than a first person realtime action game with dicerolls.
90% of the thread hardly could be clarified as good introduction.
If anything should be recommended that is more polished and user-friendly titles such as Interplay (as publisher) classics like Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment. Might as well recommend Ultima Underworld, it's one of a fair 3d dungeon exploration rpg that doesn't connect to the main series.
After those titles, Ultima 7 Black Gate+Serpent Isle is good continuation after you got the controlling right.
Shadowrun (mega drive version first, anything modern later) for a close look on what console rpg would like if done right.
Troika's titles aren't good without preparing yourself to it before. Morally and fan-patches ready.
Daggerfall... Should not be mentioned anywhere at all. It's an artifact rather than a game. Avoid.
I already suggested Baldur's Gate & Planescape has been mentioned several times in the thread already...
Tragos114 mentioned good writing as one the main reasons he was interested in CRPG recommendations, so with that in mind, anything developed by Bethesda wouldn't qualify. Troika is better in that regard. Even some of the recent Bioware games would be better suggestions. Actually after the games already mentioned, I'll go ahead and recommend Dragon Age: Origins as a pretty good fantasy RPG if you can tolerate the often tedious combat. And perhaps even The Mass Effect trilogy, although those games are best described as action games with dialogue and light RPG elements. It's a mostly good space opera story, even if it's not going to seem very original for anyone who has seen a lot of sci-fi films.
Was about to suggest those, but you guys beat me to it.
Although I'd maybe recommend Shadowrun: Returns as well, since it's the first entry in the series. Not as good as DF and HK, but you get the general idea what the series is going to be about, plus the improvements (both gameplay and writing wise) will be much more noticeable and welcome with each subsequent game, IMHO.
Also, you can import the Returns campaign (Dead Man's Switch) to Dragonfall engine, so you get all the new improvements like flanking etc.
Should be more, makes it more obvious what to try first. At least from my perspective, these games has both good writing and user-friendly interface and gameplay.
Yeah, absolutely SRReturns is a good game, too. It's shorter and more linear but still a good story with some interesting missions. The biggest criticism of the game when it launched was the limited auto-save feature, but "save anywhere" option has since been added in a patch. Yet it does pale in comparison to Dragonfall and HK, and I wish HBS would give it the Director's Cut treatment; but that would probably be a lot of work for not necessarily any more sales.
Thanks ! I'll look into everything you've all mentioned
Update: getting deeper. Went with troica, vampires first then arcanum (which i haven't finished yet, though i've made 3 characters and spend hours). Fantastic games really. Beyond my expectations, i think. I'm feeling a bit reluctant to continue with their third (technically second) game, temple of elemental evil, as i'm not at all familiar with d&d ( like i said i'm new to this ), but if these guys made fallout, arcanum and vampires i feel i should.
Otherwise i'm thinking of going with something more "mainstream" like torment. What would you recommend? Do you all like temple of elemental evil?
I wanted to finally buy PoE, but turns out my pc meets minimum but not recommended settings for it, so i should probably wait till i upgrade it.
I've only touched Elemental slightly, but what I have played has been fun.
To be fair Dead Money's issues are less "the console skrubs are too stupid to use their brians" and more so lets make this artificially difficult just because. Its not a bad DLC but it has a lot of core issues that really bug me and make the experience a real mixed bag. Atmosphere, survival horror feel and great story mixed with forcing players to a certian playstyle and insta deaths.
Before I forget my recommendations: Wasteland 2 is actually pretty good, witcher 3, system shock 2, deus ex games (not the fall or invisible war tho), dark souls/bloodborne, Pillars of Eternity, tyranny, Knights of the old republic 1-2, and thats about it.
I found Dead Money really easy once I was a level 30 (or was it 20?)