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Doc...
Why didn't you keep up discussing about our argue up there?
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Why didn't you keep up discussing about our argue up there?
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RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things... 
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00 AT 05:46PM (GMT)[p]>Another live example: Human's brain is
>bigger than monkey's brain because
>our brain is more complex
>(ie. Human evolution).
>
>If you prefer a simple mind
>because it's smaller, it's your
>path. Good luck!
Well, that's an example of a proportional increasment. The qualitative improvement of some programs (like ms office and VB as well) has stopped several versions ago, and the process of quantitative improvement has started.
>(Note: They aren't actually monkeys, I
>don't know how to say
>it in english, but the
>spanish word is: Primate.)
Don't the humans belong to primates, too?
>BTW, VB dll: 1.3mb, VC++ dll:
>980kb, I don't see a
>big difference between them...
>And VB's executable files are like
>400% smaller than C++ programs
>and even 800% smaller than
>Delphi programs.
I do not know that. Has to be checked.
>And finally, you just have to
>be a very rare guy
>to don't have them installed
>in your computer...
Seems like you've ran out of arguments if you are using this one. We're discussing the quality of VB, not it's popularity. Declined.
>People selects what they want to
>know. If someone doesn't know
>how his car works, it's
>because he's not interested on
>getting that information.
>
>A computer can be used in
>two general ways:
>1. As a tool. For those
>people who just wants to
>use programs to help improving
>his work/job.
>2. As an I-don't-know-how-to-say-this. For those
>who wants to develop even
>more powerful programs, computer, computer's
>components, etc.
>
>Why an accountant would need to
>know how to "manually" read
>the .MDB Access file format?
I don't have anything against that, but would you prefer to live in an educated society or or to be surrounded by ignorance and backwardness?
>And what do you think? He
>would prefer pen and paper
>or a computer's GUI to
>make his calculations?
That depends on the GUI. Some GUI's can be inconvenient enough to force people use pnp instead of them
>Computers are here to help humanity
>to live a better life
>not to complicate it.
So you think that most people should just use the goods of civilisation without wondering about how it works etc? Then I refer you to "Orphans of the sky" by Robert Heinlein
>I just noticed 2... Oh, this
>stupid brain of mine... *hits
>his brain with a mace*,
>Ouch!
*Hits MatuX's brain with a peanut* Now did that HURT?
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00 AT 05:46PM (GMT)[p]>Another live example: Human's brain is
>bigger than monkey's brain because
>our brain is more complex
>(ie. Human evolution).
>
>If you prefer a simple mind
>because it's smaller, it's your
>path. Good luck!
Well, that's an example of a proportional increasment. The qualitative improvement of some programs (like ms office and VB as well) has stopped several versions ago, and the process of quantitative improvement has started.
>(Note: They aren't actually monkeys, I
>don't know how to say
>it in english, but the
>spanish word is: Primate.)
Don't the humans belong to primates, too?
>BTW, VB dll: 1.3mb, VC++ dll:
>980kb, I don't see a
>big difference between them...
>And VB's executable files are like
>400% smaller than C++ programs
>and even 800% smaller than
>Delphi programs.
I do not know that. Has to be checked.
>And finally, you just have to
>be a very rare guy
>to don't have them installed
>in your computer...
Seems like you've ran out of arguments if you are using this one. We're discussing the quality of VB, not it's popularity. Declined.
>People selects what they want to
>know. If someone doesn't know
>how his car works, it's
>because he's not interested on
>getting that information.
>
>A computer can be used in
>two general ways:
>1. As a tool. For those
>people who just wants to
>use programs to help improving
>his work/job.
>2. As an I-don't-know-how-to-say-this. For those
>who wants to develop even
>more powerful programs, computer, computer's
>components, etc.
>
>Why an accountant would need to
>know how to "manually" read
>the .MDB Access file format?
I don't have anything against that, but would you prefer to live in an educated society or or to be surrounded by ignorance and backwardness?
>And what do you think? He
>would prefer pen and paper
>or a computer's GUI to
>make his calculations?
That depends on the GUI. Some GUI's can be inconvenient enough to force people use pnp instead of them
>Computers are here to help humanity
>to live a better life
>not to complicate it.
So you think that most people should just use the goods of civilisation without wondering about how it works etc? Then I refer you to "Orphans of the sky" by Robert Heinlein
>I just noticed 2... Oh, this
>stupid brain of mine... *hits
>his brain with a mace*,
>Ouch!
*Hits MatuX's brain with a peanut* Now did that HURT?
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
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crazy_vasey
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RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
Are you guys sure that visual C++ exes need a dll? I know that in Borland you can make apps which need only standard windows dlls. The map app I'm working on is 400K and should run with 0 dll hassles.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
Are you guys sure that visual C++ exes need a dll? I know that in Borland you can make apps which need only standard windows dlls. The map app I'm working on is 400K and should run with 0 dll hassles.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
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Guest
Guest
RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
>Are you guys sure that visual
>C++ exes need a dll?
> I know that in
>Borland you can make apps
>which need only standard windows
>dlls.
But of course.
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
>Are you guys sure that visual
>C++ exes need a dll?
> I know that in
>Borland you can make apps
>which need only standard windows
>dlls.
But of course.
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
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crazy_vasey
Guest
RE: Yes!
I've got allegro its an old version though 3.12 or something like that.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
I've got allegro its an old version though 3.12 or something like that.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
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MatuX
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RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00 AT 11:12PM (GMT)[p]>>Are you guys sure that visual
>>C++ exes need a dll?
>> I know that in
>>Borland you can make apps
>>which need only standard windows
>>dlls.
>But of course.
>
>~Dr. W95
>the Super-Puper Admin
>http://www.thevats.f2s.com
It's because Borland has the option to bind Borland's Dlls into the exe (like Delphi, Turbo C++, QuickC++, QuickBasic, etc.).
Crazy, do you remember when you sent me the alpha of your program? Its size was 20kb and when I tried to run it was requesting me for "borlandl.dll" file.
Then you attached the dlls into the file and its size increased to +400kb.
And I forgot... If you're creating Win32 applications using the MFCs (Microsoft Foundation Classes), it needs the runtimes which weights almost 1mb.
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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00 AT 11:12PM (GMT)[p]>>Are you guys sure that visual
>>C++ exes need a dll?
>> I know that in
>>Borland you can make apps
>>which need only standard windows
>>dlls.
>But of course.
>
>~Dr. W95
>the Super-Puper Admin
>http://www.thevats.f2s.com
It's because Borland has the option to bind Borland's Dlls into the exe (like Delphi, Turbo C++, QuickC++, QuickBasic, etc.).
Crazy, do you remember when you sent me the alpha of your program? Its size was 20kb and when I tried to run it was requesting me for "borlandl.dll" file.
Then you attached the dlls into the file and its size increased to +400kb.
And I forgot... If you're creating Win32 applications using the MFCs (Microsoft Foundation Classes), it needs the runtimes which weights almost 1mb.
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RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
>[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00
>AT 05:46 PM (GMT)
>
>>Another live example: Human's brain is
>>bigger than monkey's brain because
>>our brain is more complex
>>(ie. Human evolution).
>>
>>If you prefer a simple mind
>>because it's smaller, it's your
>>path. Good luck!
>Well, that's an example of a
>proportional increasment. The qualitative improvement
>of some programs (like ms
>office and VB as well)
>has stopped several versions ago,
>and the process of quantitative
>improvement has started.
>
Wrong.
Office 2000 has a lot more options than its predecessor plus it's 900 times faster and it never crashed.
VB 6 dll only increased ~300kb from version 3, its code is as fast as C++ programs and it's impressively more powerfull.
VB 7 incorporates the last 3 basic OOP routines to be a 100% OOP language program and incorporates lotsa more functions (just readed some public-tester's articles about it).
Visual Basic isn't RAD anymore. Visual Basic is a true powerfull OOP program language. VB is not a newbies toy.
>>(Note: They aren't actually monkeys, I
>>don't know how to say
>>it in english, but the
>>spanish word is: Primate.)
>Don't the humans belong to primates,
>too?
>
That is what I said, I don't know the spanish-english traduction of "primates".
Humans decents from the primates, yes.
>>BTW, VB dll: 1.3mb, VC++ dll:
>>980kb, I don't see a
>>big difference between them...
>>And VB's executable files are like
>>400% smaller than C programs
>>and even 800% smaller than
>>Delphi programs.
>I do not know that. Has
>to be checked.
>
You don't trust my word??????????????????
You.. bad.. bad man....
>>And finally, you just have to
>>be a very rare guy
>>to don't have them installed
>>in your computer...
>Seems like you've ran out of
>arguments if you are using
>this one. We're discussing the
>quality of VB, not it's
>popularity. Declined.
>
No no, ignorant people discuss about VB runtimes because "they are big", and what the heck do you care how big they're if they're installed with Windows??! (of course, we're talking about a 1mb file, not a 400mb file!)
>>People selects what they want to
>>know. If someone doesn't know
>>how his car works, it's
>>because he's not interested on
>>getting that information.
>>
>>A computer can be used in
>>two general ways:
>>1. As a tool. For those
>>people who just wants to
>>use programs to help improving
>>his work/job.
>>2. As an I-don't-know-how-to-say-this. For those
>>who wants to develop even
>>more powerful programs, computer, computer's
>>components, etc.
>>
>>Why an accountant would need to
>>know how to "manually" read
>>the .MDB Access file format?
>
>I don't have anything against that,
>but would you prefer to
>live in an educated society
>or or to be surrounded
>by ignorance and backwardness?
>
Neither. I don't know a shit about marketing and I know a lot about programming, but that doesn't mean that neither him or I will be an ignorant.
Okay okay... I don't know A LOT about programming, but yes a little
>
>>And what do you think? He
>>would prefer pen and paper
>>or a computer's GUI to
>>make his calculations?
>That depends on the GUI. Some
>GUI's can be inconvenient enough
>to force people use pnp
>instead of them
>
pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse my ignorance, but, what are you talking about when you say "pnp"?
BTW, if you refer pnp to console programs, that is completely off-topic: If the GUI is horrible and the console version, too?? And what about if the pen is ugly and the paper is wrinkled???????? Oh my God!! Nooooooo!!!!
>>Computers are here to help humanity
>>to live a better life
>>not to complicate it.
>So you think that most people
>should just use the goods
>of civilisation without wondering about
>how it works etc? Then
>I refer you to "Orphans
>of the sky" by Robert
>Heinlein
>
It's a matter of people's interest, I'm not an ignorant if I want to travel and I don't know how the plane is built.
>>I just noticed 2... Oh, this
>>stupid brain of mine... *hits
>>his brain with a mace*,
>>Ouch!
>*Hits MatuX's brain with a peanut*
>Now did that HURT?
>
Hey! Stop being so aggressive!!
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>[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-16-00
>AT 05:46 PM (GMT)
>
>>Another live example: Human's brain is
>>bigger than monkey's brain because
>>our brain is more complex
>>(ie. Human evolution).
>>
>>If you prefer a simple mind
>>because it's smaller, it's your
>>path. Good luck!
>Well, that's an example of a
>proportional increasment. The qualitative improvement
>of some programs (like ms
>office and VB as well)
>has stopped several versions ago,
>and the process of quantitative
>improvement has started.
>
Wrong.
Office 2000 has a lot more options than its predecessor plus it's 900 times faster and it never crashed.
VB 6 dll only increased ~300kb from version 3, its code is as fast as C++ programs and it's impressively more powerfull.
VB 7 incorporates the last 3 basic OOP routines to be a 100% OOP language program and incorporates lotsa more functions (just readed some public-tester's articles about it).
Visual Basic isn't RAD anymore. Visual Basic is a true powerfull OOP program language. VB is not a newbies toy.
>>(Note: They aren't actually monkeys, I
>>don't know how to say
>>it in english, but the
>>spanish word is: Primate.)
>Don't the humans belong to primates,
>too?
>
That is what I said, I don't know the spanish-english traduction of "primates".
Humans decents from the primates, yes.
>>BTW, VB dll: 1.3mb, VC++ dll:
>>980kb, I don't see a
>>big difference between them...
>>And VB's executable files are like
>>400% smaller than C programs
>>and even 800% smaller than
>>Delphi programs.
>I do not know that. Has
>to be checked.
>
You don't trust my word??????????????????
You.. bad.. bad man....
>>And finally, you just have to
>>be a very rare guy
>>to don't have them installed
>>in your computer...
>Seems like you've ran out of
>arguments if you are using
>this one. We're discussing the
>quality of VB, not it's
>popularity. Declined.
>
No no, ignorant people discuss about VB runtimes because "they are big", and what the heck do you care how big they're if they're installed with Windows??! (of course, we're talking about a 1mb file, not a 400mb file!)
>>People selects what they want to
>>know. If someone doesn't know
>>how his car works, it's
>>because he's not interested on
>>getting that information.
>>
>>A computer can be used in
>>two general ways:
>>1. As a tool. For those
>>people who just wants to
>>use programs to help improving
>>his work/job.
>>2. As an I-don't-know-how-to-say-this. For those
>>who wants to develop even
>>more powerful programs, computer, computer's
>>components, etc.
>>
>>Why an accountant would need to
>>know how to "manually" read
>>the .MDB Access file format?
>
>I don't have anything against that,
>but would you prefer to
>live in an educated society
>or or to be surrounded
>by ignorance and backwardness?
>
Neither. I don't know a shit about marketing and I know a lot about programming, but that doesn't mean that neither him or I will be an ignorant.
Okay okay... I don't know A LOT about programming, but yes a little
>
>>And what do you think? He
>>would prefer pen and paper
>>or a computer's GUI to
>>make his calculations?
>That depends on the GUI. Some
>GUI's can be inconvenient enough
>to force people use pnp
>instead of them
>
pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse my ignorance, but, what are you talking about when you say "pnp"?
BTW, if you refer pnp to console programs, that is completely off-topic: If the GUI is horrible and the console version, too?? And what about if the pen is ugly and the paper is wrinkled???????? Oh my God!! Nooooooo!!!!
>>Computers are here to help humanity
>>to live a better life
>>not to complicate it.
>So you think that most people
>should just use the goods
>of civilisation without wondering about
>how it works etc? Then
>I refer you to "Orphans
>of the sky" by Robert
>Heinlein
>
It's a matter of people's interest, I'm not an ignorant if I want to travel and I don't know how the plane is built.
>>I just noticed 2... Oh, this
>>stupid brain of mine... *hits
>>his brain with a mace*,
>>Ouch!
>*Hits MatuX's brain with a peanut*
>Now did that HURT?
>
Hey! Stop being so aggressive!!
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Guest
Guest
RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
Hell, why are you people arguing over file sizes? The fact is that Microsoft has produced such a piece-of-shit operating system that requires such bloat-ware. No matter *what* compiler you use, if it's made for Win32 it is going to be huge.
As George Foot put it:
"Anyone who is concerned about the ratio between library and program code should just get to work and write more program code to catch up."
-Xotor-
>It's because Borland has the option
>to bind Borland's Dlls into
>the exe (like Delphi, Turbo
>C++, QuickC++, QuickBasic, etc.).
>
>Crazy, do you remember when you
>sent me the alpha of
>your program? Its size was
>20kb and when I tried
>to run it was requesting
>me for "borlandl.dll" file.
>
>Then you attached the dlls into
>the file and its size
>increased to +400kb.
>
>
>And I forgot... If you're creating
>Win32 applications using the MFCs
>(Microsoft Foundation Classes), it needs
>the runtimes which weights almost
>1mb.
[div align=center]
http://www.poseidonet.f2s.com/files/nostupid.gif
[/div]
Hell, why are you people arguing over file sizes? The fact is that Microsoft has produced such a piece-of-shit operating system that requires such bloat-ware. No matter *what* compiler you use, if it's made for Win32 it is going to be huge.
As George Foot put it:
"Anyone who is concerned about the ratio between library and program code should just get to work and write more program code to catch up."
-Xotor-
>It's because Borland has the option
>to bind Borland's Dlls into
>the exe (like Delphi, Turbo
>C++, QuickC++, QuickBasic, etc.).
>
>Crazy, do you remember when you
>sent me the alpha of
>your program? Its size was
>20kb and when I tried
>to run it was requesting
>me for "borlandl.dll" file.
>
>Then you attached the dlls into
>the file and its size
>increased to +400kb.
>
>
>And I forgot... If you're creating
>Win32 applications using the MFCs
>(Microsoft Foundation Classes), it needs
>the runtimes which weights almost
>1mb.
[div align=center]
http://www.poseidonet.f2s.com/files/nostupid.gif
[/div]
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crazy_vasey
Guest
RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
If I wasn't so lazy and coded in the raw win32 api my apps would be <50K and not need any dlls. Only problem is it would take too long to get anything going.
I agree with you about windows though. What happened to the lovely size of workbench on the amiga <100K RAM used for the OS that was nice.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
If I wasn't so lazy and coded in the raw win32 api my apps would be <50K and not need any dlls. Only problem is it would take too long to get anything going.
I agree with you about windows though. What happened to the lovely size of workbench on the amiga <100K RAM used for the OS that was nice.
http://www.crosswinds.net/~crazyvasey/
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Guest
Guest
RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
>Office 2000 has a lot more
>options than its predecessor
That's what I'm talking about! Taking Word as example, even Word6 had A LOT more options than a normal user could ever need!
> plus
>it's 900 times faster
I doubt
> and
>it never crashed.
This improvement should be done with a patch, not with a newer version of a program. Oh c'mon! Stop excusing Microsoft's money thirst!
>VB 6 dll only increased ~300kb
>from version 3, its code
>is as fast as C++
>programs and it's impressively more
>powerfull.
VB is more powerful than CPP?? Man, you should not work at night. Look's like you're getting crazy.
>VB 7 incorporates the last 3
>basic OOP routines to be
>a 100% OOP language program
>and incorporates lotsa more functions
>(just readed some public-tester's articles
>about it).
Don't trust everything you read.
>Visual Basic isn't RAD anymore. Visual
>Basic is a true powerfull
>OOP program language. VB is
>not a newbies toy.
Loosing the status of a newbies toy, it has lost the most important of it's advantages.
>Humans decents from the primates, yes.
Not only descend from them, but belong to them, too.
>No no, ignorant people discuss about
>VB runtimes because "they are
>big", and what the heck
>do you care how big
>they're if they're installed with
>Windows??! (of course, we're talking
>about a 1mb file, not
>a 400mb file!)
If all of them were installed with windows, we weren't arguing about this now. Just scan through my thread message again.
Also, the coincidence that VB was created by MS, which also created the most popular operating system, doesn't say anything about the advantages or disadvantages of VB. Declined.
>pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse
>my ignorance, but, what are
>you talking about when you
>say "pnp"?
Mind the context, pal, mind the context.
>It's a matter of people's interest,
>I'm not an ignorant if
>I want to travel and
>I don't know how the
>plane is built.
Of course not, but you should have basic learnings about planes. If you do not, that DOES mean ignorance. And ignorance is dangerous. Just read the book.
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
>Office 2000 has a lot more
>options than its predecessor
That's what I'm talking about! Taking Word as example, even Word6 had A LOT more options than a normal user could ever need!
> plus
>it's 900 times faster
I doubt
> and
>it never crashed.
This improvement should be done with a patch, not with a newer version of a program. Oh c'mon! Stop excusing Microsoft's money thirst!
>VB 6 dll only increased ~300kb
>from version 3, its code
>is as fast as C++
>programs and it's impressively more
>powerfull.
VB is more powerful than CPP?? Man, you should not work at night. Look's like you're getting crazy.
>VB 7 incorporates the last 3
>basic OOP routines to be
>a 100% OOP language program
>and incorporates lotsa more functions
>(just readed some public-tester's articles
>about it).
Don't trust everything you read.
>Visual Basic isn't RAD anymore. Visual
>Basic is a true powerfull
>OOP program language. VB is
>not a newbies toy.
Loosing the status of a newbies toy, it has lost the most important of it's advantages.
>Humans decents from the primates, yes.
Not only descend from them, but belong to them, too.
>No no, ignorant people discuss about
>VB runtimes because "they are
>big", and what the heck
>do you care how big
>they're if they're installed with
>Windows??! (of course, we're talking
>about a 1mb file, not
>a 400mb file!)
If all of them were installed with windows, we weren't arguing about this now. Just scan through my thread message again.
Also, the coincidence that VB was created by MS, which also created the most popular operating system, doesn't say anything about the advantages or disadvantages of VB. Declined.
>pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse
>my ignorance, but, what are
>you talking about when you
>say "pnp"?
Mind the context, pal, mind the context.
>It's a matter of people's interest,
>I'm not an ignorant if
>I want to travel and
>I don't know how the
>plane is built.
Of course not, but you should have basic learnings about planes. If you do not, that DOES mean ignorance. And ignorance is dangerous. Just read the book.
~Dr. W95
the Super-Puper Admin
http://www.thevats.f2s.com
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MatuX
Guest
RE: Doh! I forgot 4 things...
I cutted all the above conversation because it was completely off-topic, I pasted it on the General Discussion Forum on the thread named "Dr. W95, over here!"
We're discussing about Graphic User Interfaces, Console programs, not about VB, dlls or Microsoft.
>>And what do you think? He
>>would prefer pen and paper
>>or a computer's GUI to
>>make his calculations?
>That depends on the GUI. Some
>GUI's can be inconvenient enough
>to force people use pnp
>instead of them
>
>>pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse
>>my ignorance, but, what are
>>you talking about when you
>>say "pnp"?
>Mind the context, pal, mind the
>context.
>
Oh, yes, how stupid I'm. But I should make the same reply than above here:
<sarcasm>
If the GUI is horrible and the console version, too?? And what about if the pen is ugly and the paper is wrinkled???????? Oh my God!! Nooooooo!!!!
</sarcasm>
OF COURSE IT DEPENDS! But GUI brings you a lot more flexibility and developing possibilities than console programs, THAT IS A FACT!!!
>
>
>~Dr. W95
>the Super-Puper Admin
>http://www.thevats.f2s.com
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I cutted all the above conversation because it was completely off-topic, I pasted it on the General Discussion Forum on the thread named "Dr. W95, over here!"
We're discussing about Graphic User Interfaces, Console programs, not about VB, dlls or Microsoft.
>>And what do you think? He
>>would prefer pen and paper
>>or a computer's GUI to
>>make his calculations?
>That depends on the GUI. Some
>GUI's can be inconvenient enough
>to force people use pnp
>instead of them
>
>>pnp? Plug 'n Play? Umm... Excuse
>>my ignorance, but, what are
>>you talking about when you
>>say "pnp"?
>Mind the context, pal, mind the
>context.
>
Oh, yes, how stupid I'm. But I should make the same reply than above here:
<sarcasm>
If the GUI is horrible and the console version, too?? And what about if the pen is ugly and the paper is wrinkled???????? Oh my God!! Nooooooo!!!!
</sarcasm>
OF COURSE IT DEPENDS! But GUI brings you a lot more flexibility and developing possibilities than console programs, THAT IS A FACT!!!
>
>
>~Dr. W95
>the Super-Puper Admin
>http://www.thevats.f2s.com
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MatuX
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