No Ron Perlman in Fallout 3?

Evil Feline

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The Screen Actors Guild is apparently angry with the Gaming Industry. See this and this.

Could this mean Fo3 won't be staring Ron Pearlman? That would really suck.
 
I did consider posting it in the Fo3 forum. But I thought it would fit better in the general gaming forum as it's really about game-acting in general.
 
The topic you started refers to Fallout 3 explicitly in its title, hence it does not qualify for GG. You're free to start a non-Fallout specific topic, however.
 
You're the Mod, if you move something, I'm fine with it.
I was merely trying to explain why I had posted in the wrong forum
 
It's a bit premature to be making any assumptions about voice actors for Fallout 3, or how/whether this strike will affect the game. We're still a long way out, folks. :)
 
Evil Feline said:
Could this mean Fo3 won't be staring Ron Pearlman?

That's just the point. He didn't star in Fallout. Neither did Richard Dean Anderson, David Warner, Cree Summers, or anyone else. They were voice acting.

Cartoon voice-acting doesn't use this, instead they will pay by the session or on a contract if the voice-over is being used regularly. Just about everyone in Hollywood knows that you can't make a living from doing session work in voice acting. It is supplemental, often just-for-fun work.

The voice actors just come into the studio, don't have to pay shit for a studio fee, and sit there and read from a script. They are often stuffed with amenities and usually a catered spread is laid out for the days voice-actors are in the studio. That, to me, hardly constitutes "work" deserving of royalty payments. They are paid ~$500 a day of V-O work, or a lump sum for their work on a specific part. There is hardly the same amount of work being done as in stage, film, or TV acting, and inherently without the likeness of the actor. They don't do ANYWHERE near the same effort as, say, the animators or the developers, who in fact don't even get paid at the same rate.

Next, the SAG will want the voice actors to be paid every time their work shows up on TV for cartoons, and that is going to really cause problems as the voice-acting industry is either going to implode, or might fix the problem as the game publishers/developers look at the bullshit from Hollywood and go "No thanks, we'll use freelancers." Too bad the SAG didn't know of the other use for voice-acting that could be used as precedent for the VG industry - radio. Actors didn't get "royalties" for spewing out lines into a mic for a radio show then.

And let me guess what the publishers do if they bow to the Film Actors Guildies. They pay the voice actors more willingly, and there goes more of what little comprises the developer's "cut", for the sake of some egomaniacal guilded twat.

Welcome to America, where we will take good ideas like patenting and unionizing, and use it in every unscrupulous manner conceivable.
 
MrSmileyFaceDude said:
It's a bit premature to be making any assumptions about voice actors for Fallout 3, or how/whether this strike will affect the game. We're still a long way out, folks. :)
I was about to say that. I would imagine that the engine, graphics, interface, and scripting would be done before you guys start recording voice-overs.

Although I would love to have Ron Perlman do the whole "War, war never changes" bit. Or at least a very good impersonator.
 
I'm usually in support of unions asking for a bigger cut, but priorities people! What the voice actors provide for a game is such a small part, usually just a day or two of work. The grunts at the developer, however, work for a year or two at least during the development of a title. They are usually paid a pitiful sum, have little job security, and not a lot of family time. So once the unionize and set themselves up, then I can begin to sympathize with Voice Actors.

In the meanwhile, we can look forward to MSFD trying his best to sound like Perlman. Ah, the good old days when voice acting was done by the developers themselves!
 
I sure hope Ron does a speech for FO3! It seems like he is dedicated enough to the series to go for a fourth time.

It would certainly not be a Fallout game without him, and elaborating on what Dove said, if the first word out of his mouth isn't "War" SO HELP ME GOD I'LL KILL EVERYONE! :evil:
 
There would be hell to pay. Smoking fur and someone screaming "Why why! Why no crates! WHY!"


"War..." = the one and and only fallout = war from a person with a crate fettish.

"Crates..." = war with the community, and no fallout = one evil person would be happy.

How about... "Crates of war..." or " War of the Crates!" Ooohhh...
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hummmm...I gotta say, I didn't understand a single sentence in that post...does that make me insane?
 
Kahgan said:
hummmm...I gotta say, I didn't understand a single sentence in that post...does that make me insane?

No, but you kind of have to get the whole "crates" thing.
 
Screw F.A.G., I mean, S.A.G., there are plenty of people who'll do voice-acting for a quick buck. I mean, voice-acting has never been gaming's strong point. At this point, who cares? Anyone can sit and recite from a piece of paper, they could do it themselves.
 
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