Notes on Fallout TV (Return to the Nolanverse complete, Review notes complete)

Where the fuck do you get woke DEI from reactionary corporate conspiracies?
It's the point of the whole conspiracy. I'll withold further thoughts until I come back to the finale.

NOTES ON EPISODE 5:
Episode 5 “The Past”
Directed by Claire Kilner
Written by Carson Mell
- Thaddeus and Maximus’s dynamic is a better portrayal of military fraternal orders than what
we see on base.
- “He’s dead.” Maximus confesses then blames Thaddeus for stating the obvious, which is
that the brotherhood will find out about Titus. Maximus just fucking sucks. He immediately
tried killing Thaddeus when it wasn’t necessary. If he was based on bad players it doesn’t
work because he doesn’t fit into the setting. I don’t believe he’s real.
- Lucy is still jaded and suspicious after saving Maximus. Maximus lies about being Titus even
though there’s no point to it at all.
- Vault again. Chet posits that the logs could be falsified, which is consistent with what we’ve
seen already. Last 32 dwellers died trying to get into 31. Did the entire population die
because Bud implemented some kind of protocol like poison gas? If so why isn’t there any
evidence after a lack of cleanup for two years? If Bud was engaged with the uprising in 32
then the executives in 33 would know about it too. Is Hank actually in cahoots with
Moldaver? A dumb solution but anything is possible.
- Maximus sets up camp right next to radioactive barrels. Maximus says that “people say” the
vaults are full of monsters. Is this what the brotherhood believes? They should know that
vault dwellers are prime normals because of their past dealings with the NCR and the
existence of tourist vaults. Are the Brotherhood aware of the Vault Tec conspiracy and that’s
how the monsters rumor got started? Could also be misinterpretations of defunct vaults that
mutants moved into, but the Brotherhood should know the truth.
- Lucy thinks there’s some good in Maximus but really he’s a huge pussy and a coward. He
lied about being Titus unnecessarily when there was nothing to gain from it. It would have
worked if Lucy gave him the proposal and THEN he lied about having the authority to grant
her side of the bargain. The party forms.
- Overseer election starts. Betty is stumping on the PA system. Old guy tells Reg he’s voting
for Betty. Indicates that this is a managed democracy and not outright rigged. Reg votes for
Betty too. What were Woody and Rey’s platforms? They shared the proposal for integrating
the raiders so did they split their ticket? Vault politics shouldn’t be this trivial or unexplored.
- Here comes Maximus’s history lesson and shady sands. Maximus says some obvious stuff
which is the last thing that should occur to him. The character who comes up with nothing
but stupid ideas and plans immediately notes the flaw in Lucy’s logic? Probably because she
didn’t plan on killing everyone.
- Lucy’s memory teases the time they lived with Moldaver in Shady Sands. Lucy was six at the
time so shouldn’t she remember living above ground in civilization? Leaving the vault and
leaving the surface should have been the most memorable and traumatic events of her life.
Is the solution some dumbass amnesia drug or hypnosis? Or maybe the authors think kids
are that stupid and won’t notice being outside for real with all of its dimensions and horizons.
Norm should have memories of being on the surface too. Nobody’s age is clearly defined.
- Norm is checking trade records again. Trades received show that 31 vaulters sent to 33 were
all elected overseer. Including Hank, elected 2271-2297. Betty is elected overseer with 98%
of the vote as Norm finds out she’s from 31 in the logs.
- Weird exchange with Betty and norm.
- “Fiends” are cannibals now. Not sure if that’s a nod to new Vegas. Doesn’t matter if it is. The
hands up across the bridge is actually a great sequence that perfectly realized the setting.
Kind of wish there was no shootout so Lucy’s negotiation skills could actually matter. The
fiend immediately notices Lucy’s pipboy.
- Maximus immediately springs to action here but in previous scenes he did nothing and
stared. His reaction is justified by the tension of the scene, but shouldn’t he have acted
before? If Maximus represents impulsive players he actually lacks initiative.
- “When things look glum, vote for somebody from vault 31.” The old guy lost his election to
Hank because of a wevil famine. How would wevils be a factor in an enclosed environment
like the vaults? They weren’t trading with the outside. Obviously crisis is being managed to
guarantee 31ers get elected, but the fake crisis they came up with wouldn’t make sense to
the dwellers themselves.
- Chet is now basically the father of Steph’s baby. Chet notes that 31 has superior “resources”
and a better education system. Does indicate they have a storehouse. Norm says Hank
didn’t talk much about 31. Steph says maybe the mashed potatoes were better? If Steph is
a vault tec executive then why does it feel like she isn’t really engaged with running the
vault? She seemingly stands apart from Betty on the raider issue to the point she gives
Norm kudos, but does she act on her own?
- Betty announces a meeting on her initiative to resettle 32.
- Shady sands. Fuck. Lucy has an existential crisis over “reclamation day” and thinks it
happened without them. She’s not wrong. It already happened multiple times with the
control vaults, so what was vault-tec’s plan? Shady Sands itself was founded by vault
refugees. “It didn’t work out.” They walk straight to the crater lol. Shady Sands was in the
Boneyard? What’s up with the skyscrapers? Crater is way too fucking big, unless it was an
underground detonation. NOTE: rewatch the intro to see if there are incoming warheads or if
explosions just issue forth from the ground. Shouldn’t the area be insanely radioactive? This
was a recent underground detonation. “The same thing that always happens. Everyone
wants to save the world, they just disagree on how.” Objectively wrong on both counts.
Civilizations don’t always get obliterated, and Vault-Tec conspired to end the world and re-
ended it for the sake of their own vanity.
- “I wonder if anyone survived? - I did.” Shouldn’t Maximus know that there are other NCR
remnants and Shady Sands refugees? There should be more survivors like him in the
Brotherhood. Is Dane also a refugee? Why was the Brotherhood there to respond to the
nuking of Shady Sands so quickly? Why doesn’t Maximus remember anything before he got
put in the fridge? No vague recollections on family?
- Tooth bullet infection. Raid on the hospital that leads to vault 4.
- Betty leads everyone to the door between 32 & 33 but the inside of 33’s door still has blood
on it. 32 is completely spic and span with all new fixtures & everything. It would make sense
that parts came from 31’s storehouse but what about the labor needed to clean up the blood
and bodies? Did they thaw out a bunch of executives and put them back under? The vault
tec execs would also notice that the uprising was against themselves based on the remains.
Overseer’s terminal still busted.
- Betty says Rose’s pip-boy was buried with her. Nonsensical explanation for vault dwellers
and the setting. A pip-boy is a precious heirloom and irreplaceable. Nobody would be buried
with one, and they don’t bury their dead. Dead bodies get composted.
- Lucy & macimus wake up in Vault 4.
Cooper’s absence is really being felt. The other characters just don’t have his thematic
resonance and they don’t develop enough to be interesting.
 
Uh huh.

Yeah, I'm inclined to think that's not the case but I'll withhold comments until your argument.
 
I don't think Fallout was always a black comedy. Fallout 1 had some humorous moments, but all in all it took itself rather seriously. Fallout 2 went a bit overboard with the cheeky pop culture references and jokes, but it still took itself seriously. The presentation was not a comedy. It was sometimes satirical, some moments of parody, but it wanted to be taken seriously. From F3 on the element of parody got certainly stronger, with more absurd elements being not just an off-joke but front and center. And the TV show is outright trying to be comedy.
 
The episode for Vault 4 ended up being my favorite on first viewing because it's the only one that actually realizes the scifi/horror comedy tone that Fallout has always had. Even despite its problems at least the writer and director got the scenario right. Looking forward to seeing what I think about it after doing an autopsy soon.

From F3 on the element of parody got certainly stronger, with more absurd elements being not just an off-joke but front and center. And the TV show is outright trying to be comedy.

If the TV show was actually serious sometimes it would work, but when it tries to put on its serious face it's totally ridiculous. The scenarios are absurd and they don't matter. It's only during scenes like the hands up across the railroad bridge that the comedy actually works, because it develops logically from the setting rather than being a joke for the sake of having one. Walton Goggins is the only time the seriousness actually pays off because he's drawing on all his prior experience as an actor to portray a real son of a bitch. Maximus on the other hand is a totally amoral blank slate who is capable of anything, while Lucy is a goody two-shoes who comes up with boring light side non-solutions for the karma points.

Why take any of the show seriously if it doesn't take the material seriously and treats everything like a big stupid joke?
 
I don't think Fallout was always a black comedy. Fallout 1 had some humorous moments, but all in all it took itself rather seriously. Fallout 2 went a bit overboard with the cheeky pop culture references and jokes, but it still took itself seriously. The presentation was not a comedy. It was sometimes satirical, some moments of parody, but it wanted to be taken seriously. From F3 on the element of parody got certainly stronger, with more absurd elements being not just an off-joke but front and center. And the TV show is outright trying to be comedy.
Yes, Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas as well take themselves quite seriously, even with all jokes and references. It's fine for something serious to occasionaly have jokes, that's something completely understandable because being serious for 100% of the runtime can get tiring, some levity is fine.

The Sopranos for example is a deadass serious show, but it has some of the funniest scenes in all of TV media (Christopher's intervention scene makes me laugh everytime). So something can be serious and have jokes at the same time, both aren't incompatible and the existence of jokes in your serious show doesn't make it a black comedy. So to claim Fallout was always a black comedy because it has jokes is factually false, specially when people like Tim said that the tone was meant to be bleak.

People only have this perception of Fallout being a black comedy because, yeah, of Fallout 3. Bethesda completely misread the tone of the first two games and thought everything was meant to be a joke. And now a lot of people think that was the tone all along when it wasn't.
 
Black comedies also have to treat the focus of their subject seriously because they're making fun off of something that's extremely dark and dangerous. Slither for instance wouldn't work if it wasn't suitably disgusting, if the alien slugs weren't a serious threat, and if the alien parasite didn't have clearly defined rules that grounds it in material reality and creates an opportunity to defeat it. It's not an excuse to do whatever stupid fucking shit you want, there still has to be some grounding in reality.

A comedy that makes fun of racism still needs to take racism seriously if it wants to actually say something, and not just tell jokes for 90 minutes that the audience will never think about again.
 
I mean the black comedy of Fallout: The Series is the horrible constant deaths and injuries with over the top gorn.
 
I don't think Fallout was always a black comedy. Fallout 1 had some humorous moments, but all in all it took itself rather seriously. Fallout 2 went a bit overboard with the cheeky pop culture references and jokes, but it still took itself seriously. The presentation was not a comedy. It was sometimes satirical, some moments of parody, but it wanted to be taken seriously. From F3 on the element of parody got certainly stronger, with more absurd elements being not just an off-joke but front and center. And the TV show is outright trying to be comedy.

This.

A (not very) fun fact:
Our D&D sessions during university years probably had more (wacky) humour and pop culture references than Fallout 2, yet it still wasn't breaking immersion or preventing us from seriously playing and enjoying quests and stories. Wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but it was good (IMO - at least). You can have both. :)
 
I personally think that the "haha funny lolz" that Bethesda uses in their Fallouts comes from the mistakes that were Tactics and BoS. I think that people often forget how off track Interplay was getting before it lost the IP.
 
I mean the black comedy of Fallout: The Series is the horrible constant deaths and injuries with over the top gorn.
Which aren't all that impactful. Bo from Superstore just casually walks around with a mangled foot (yes, CT, he's limping a bit), takes off his boot and sock off his foot where the toes are only held on by skin, open bones and everything. Then he puts it all back on with maybe the noise Peter Griffin makes when he stubs his shin.
And then he gets healed, by ghoul magic.
Dollar Store New Girl gets her thumb cut off, barely makes a sound, then gets a new thumb and it's never mentioned again besides the color.
The overuse of slomo ultraviolence with whimsical music was funny the first time they did it, lame in every subsequent instance.
It's not really all that horrible when it's always played for laughs (except maybe the woman giving birth to piranhas?).
 
Took me five full hours all told to get through episode 6. Needless to say Vault 4 is not my favorite part anymore. Holy fucking shit. The more it goes back to pre-war the more it finds new ways to break the setting and misunderstand capitalism. This is a FULL THIRD of my total notes.

Notes on Episode 6
Episode 6 “the trap”
Directed by: Frederick E. O. Toye
Written by: Larry Dornetto
- Episode tagline: what happens when the ranchers have more power than the sheriff?
Huh???
- Galaxy News stinger is nice. Thank god Cooper is back, holy fuck. Cooper is smoking in this
scene so we know there’s no prejudice against smoking in pre-war society. So why didn’t
Cooper do any adverts for toxic products? Not doing commercials is a weird point of
integrity that’s actually meaningless and places a ceiling above what can be done with
Cooper’s past. The orientation video notes vault 4’s model number: 96JQ1164; which
implies that construction or design of the vault began in 2064, 10 years after the start of
Project Safehouse, which is relevant because it would mean the vault wasn’t designed for its
eventual use.
- The Hawthornes are part of a scientific team of 80 settled in the vault five years before the
Great War started, which means experimentation had begun before the vault was sealed.
This only further shows that the Great War wasn’t necessary to run the vault experiments.
- Cooper has a chip on his shoulder over the design flaws of the T-45 at the Battle of
Anchorage. Says they were fighting the “reds” but won’t name China. Do the showrunners
think it’s “irresponsible” to make China the enemy when the whole point to start with was
that the United States are the bad guys? Pure cowardice.
- Bud Askins was originally a West-Tek developer who oversaw the rollout process for the T-45
but is now focusing on “HR R&D.” Again with the incestuous interpersonality. Everyone is
related to everyone and everything so that “fans” can do soy face and point at the screen
because they mentioned a power armor! “Human relations” research AND DEVELOPMENT
is also an inherently ridiculous concept. HR departments practice scientific management, it’s
not a science in itself. An HR department’s real purpose is to maximize profit by maintaining
worker productivity and avoiding liability in the form of an employee lawsuit. If America was
as fascist as it’s depicted in the games they wouldn’t need an HR department because the
Gestapo would be going around making threats to the workers, and it’d be illegal to sue.
- Bud says “the ultimate weapon in outsmarting your opponent is… time.” But long-term
thinking is antithetical to bourgeois interests. Capitalism is characterized by the constant
pursuit of short term gains at the expense of long term externalities that society will be
burdened with fixing for generations. Put simply, capitalists aren’t generational thinkers, and
they would hate the shit out of Bud’s Buds.
- “The future of all humanity comes down to one word: management.” This is not a novel
concept. All social systems incorporate methods of control to manage society and maintain
a stable equilibrium. Liberalism does the same thing. Are we supposed to believe the
authors are libertarians who would rather live in a tin roof shack in the desert putting sand in
a water filter, instead of paying taxes and dealing with the cops? The social awareness of the
show comes from Bizarroworld. This is the ruling class looking at itself in the mirror and
blaming the reflection for ruining the world.
- Barb says the Vault-Tec wrap party is at their house, which shows that she’s not
communicating important details to Cooper she knows he won’t like. This would have been
a problem that reoccurred throughout their marriage, and it’s a shame we don’t see more of
it.
- Cooper says he’d do anything for barb. Understandable. Frances Turner could convince a
guy to kill himself.
- Dog is named “Roosevelt.” Is he named for Teddy or FDR? The divergence in fallout’s
timeline starts in 1945, so both are relevant but would say different things about Cooper’s
character. Dog should have been named Teddy or Frankie.
- Cooper uses a lot of military terminology, which means he was thoroughly conditioned by his
war experience to be an American patriot who views the world in militant terms.
- Newspaper shows “Reds” losing territory. Troops deployed to the far east. > these details
made sense in the games because losing the war gave China a reason to launch the nukes.
When these facts are brought up in the show, it directly undermines the point of the Vault-
Tec conspiracy because the United States was winning the war! They would have been able
to crack China open like a lobster and devour their innards in the aftermath, but we’re
supposed to believe they were being fitted for blue jumpsuits so they could live in a
commune for two hundred to five hundred years!?
- Cooper starred in “A Man and His Dog.” Western nod to the real life as Boy and His Dog.
This is a great concept which we should have actually seen instead of the cliched cowboy
scene from “The Man From Deadhorse.” Adapting ABaHD in the context of pre-war fascist
Americana could have been great to see. Instead it’s wasted on a prop.
- Walton Goggins is so fucking cool as Cooper. They could easily salvage just Coop and make
a movie with him. Cooper has all the makings for a truly brilliant Fallout story but the
showrunners aren’t capable of fulfilling that vision.
- Bud is talking with some other suits about how the peace negotiations are effecting their
presales. Ideally, these interests would want the war to continue indefinitely. They wouldn’t
want to end it themselves.
- Matt Berry is great. Don’t really buy that the caterers would shoot him down hard. Sebastian
is anticommunist and says they arrested Charlie Whiteknife. Whiteknife was a veteran who
served with Cooper. Sebastian says Cooper understands that the world will be run by nerds.
I’m getting an impression of liberal cultural chauvinism here. The authors clearly resent
management as a cohort based on their past experiences despite the career success that
brought them to this point. Is the anti-management stance of the show a reflection of the
bourgeois fear of the middle classes? These are ultimately monsters of their creation, but the
show doesn’t recognize the distinction between management & capital with the conspiracy
scene. It views the people as the problem rather than the culture which produced them, or
the capital which political economy is oriented around. The total lack of Marxist critique here
leads to class confusion. Fallout TV is a perfectly realized false consciousness.
- Sebastian got chump change for his voice rights to the Mr. Handy. “The End of the World is a
product.” Sounds like something with resonance but it’s really not. There was no market
action behind the Vault-Tec conspiracy, it was basically a cartel. Vault-Tec was also a
government contractor, as were their fellow conspirators, and their conspiracy was
antithetical to the interests of the United States.
- The cops arrest Cooper and take the fusion core out of Snip-Snip.
- Camera cuts to vault 4’s entrance door, in case anyone was too stupid to figure out that’s
where the story is set. Again the entrance is totally exposed with its concrete casing sticking
out of the sand as the most identifiable landmark in the area. It’s in the greater LA area and
The Master never found it? The Brotherhood never found it? NCR never found it? The
existence of the entrance door undermines the need of the trap door, which is to bait test
subjects, because the experiments are supposed to be done in secret. The entrance door
isn’t even in the same biome as the hospital! This is a cartoon world conceived by
simpletons.
- Lucy has supreme faith in the capabilities of vault personnel. Birdie says she was a Shady
Sands refugee but how did they find Vault 4? Did everyone go through the trap door? Why
didn’t Hank investigate conditions in the other vaults if he knew things were going so badly
on the surface?
- Why would Lucy smell good? They haven’t been bathed, or else their clothes would have
been washed. “You want to have sex?” Oh man here it comes. “You mean use my cock?”
MAXIMUS DOESN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT MASTURBATION AND EJACULATION IS?! The
Brotherhood isn’t just recruiting orphans from the wastes they’re reproducing themselves.
They have bloodlines with lineal descent to the original soldiers who followed the original
Maxson. They would have sexual education, especially with mixed sex units. Is Maximus
actually a child in the mind? What kind of pervert conceived this character? We already have
a premise that revels in cousin molestation, and now we’ve got a main character who’s a
sexy baby too? The writers should have their hard drives examined!
- Lucy’s finger still looks necrotic with no explanation of how it’s working. If snip snip injected
her with stimpak juice shouldn’t the finger be healed by now?
- Maximus thinks they’re being trapped by a cult and Lucy tells him that the VDs are from the
surface. Maximus says that they’re a cult because everyone is smiling. Shouldn’t Maximus
know that the Brotherhood is a cult? He doesn’t believe their religion even though it controls
every aspects of their lives, and Brotherhood members are miserable from the regimented
lifestyle and religious control. A cult doesn’t stop being a cult because the members are self
serving cynics. That’s an essential element of how cults reproduce themselves in real life.
- Lucy holds Maximus’s hand and he catches feelings. Did that never happen to him growing
up in the brotherhood? Not with a single girl or even Dane? Nobody?
- Overseer Benjamin is a one eyed mutant. There’s no reason for nobody to acknowledge it,
even for mutants the native vault 4 dwellers are unique in the world. Mutants are almost all
ghouls or super mutants. There are no healthy humanoid mutants who can produce viable
human offspring. Dodging the issue is a bad joke at the expense of “woke” politeness. It
makes no sense for them not to acknowledge or explain it to newcomers. It also breaks
credulity that Lucy and Maximus wouldn’t question it. Maximus is already impulsive and
doesn’t think about what he says or does.
- “Stay out of level 12, obviously.” How is that obvious? Shouldn’t you explain it or promise to
explain it later when there’s time? Benjamin says they can ask Birdie questions, so why don’t
they? They could have asked her about the mutants at any time and it wouldn’t be rude.
They practically had permission. Birdie’s whole job is helping orient new people.
- Maximus: “Lots of people have one eye.” Does Maximus not even know what mutants are?!
This character doesn’t live in the world he grew up in. It’s like they transplanted the brain of a
suburban eight year old into an adult man in a different universe. He’s easily the worst
written character in the show. It’s impossible to believe he’s real.
- One of the mutants has the eyes of Ibad. Not bad.
- Cops are taking Cooper to the president’s shack in some nowhere desertified shithole.
- Flashback to Barv in the hot tub. Barb thought about leaving vault-tec but didn’t. Why does
she believe in Vault-Tec ideologically? Cooper wanted to buy a ranch up in Bakersfield. In
the games the nuking of Bakersfield produced the Necropolis. Did Cooper know Set and
meet the Vault Dweller?
- Bud licensed pip boy for vault tec use from RobCo. “Vault-Tec would exist with or without
me.” This doesn’t explain why she goes along with the conspiracy. Barb is desperate to get
Coop & Janey into the vaults, which means the vault-tec conspiracy was already conceived
and she knows about it.
- News acknowledges uranium shortages as the world tries transitioning away from oil to
nuclear energy. Something the United States had already done. Reporter says the
competition for uranium is driving allies against each other, but the United States had no
allies. It monopolized its resources for domestic use, occupied Mexico, and annexed
Canada to expand those resources. The US was a vulgar imperialist power, not the leader of
a capitalist world. The European Commonwealth had already fallen apart. The lead up to the
Great War was already operating within a Malthusian framework. The post-apocalypse is a
reflection of the dog eat dog nature of old world capitalism.
- Whiteknife acknowledges that the United States still views him as part of a conquered
people it uses to tell mythologies on its own construction, but he doesn’t have an opinion on
the communists they fought or being accused of being one. Cooper says they were fighting
for the “American Dream,” which he got to live. So why was he reluctant at all to do the
scene where he shoots a communist on tv?
- White Knife uses “fiduciary responsibility” to show why vault-tec is bad, but also
acknowledges that Vault-Tec is a government contractor. Vault-Tec doesn’t sell vaults to a
public market, they sell vaults to the government. Vault-Tec’s shareholders are happier the
more the government buys, and the purpose of the vaults was to run the behavioral
experiments. The control vaults only exist in case the Great War actually happened. Vault-
Tec didn’t need to make the Great War happen for the investors to get what they wanted,
because those contracts were already secured! The cause of the war doesn’t go away if
there’s a successful negotiation of ceasefire. The world is still resource starved, which was
the cause of the war to begin with. The United States refused to share its oil with China, and
the Chinese thought there was no alternative to invading and taking the oil. The existential
threat of nuclear war doesn’t go away. A return to a Cold War would only exacerbate
demand for the vaults!
- “The cattle ranchers are in charge, Coop.” Hm. Exactly like the NCR, which would have been
a perfect mirror for evaluating pre-war America. Too bad you blew it the fuck up!
- “Everything is a conspiracy?” Turns out it literally is. Turns out the writers are just as stupid
as Cooper thinks they are.
- Moldaver’s group meets in a mausoleum run by the “Hollywood Forever” company. How on
the nose is that? Could this shit get any more self-reverential?
- Cooper picks up a call from Barb’s new assistant and blows him off. Janey is reading Little
House in the Prairie to Roosevelt. Barb drops the bomb about no dogs in the vaults,
something Cooper didn’t know. Cooper hates the fact they have to give up Roosevelt
because he eats meat. It doesn’t make sense for the management vaults to have these
restrictions. 31-33 are the secret purpose of the entire program, so why wouldn’t they have
the excesses to fully realize life as a rural volk with pets and all that stuff? They already have
unnecessary fields with crops to give off the impression of volkisch living. By emulating the
Bethesda games so closely, the show limits itself in terms of scale. If any vaults were going
to be built to the specifications of executive privilege vanity, it should have been 32 & 33. Yet
they live austerely in a commune for the fun of it. What the fuck is up with these people?
They’re bourgeois Nazis who aren’t interested in excess or indulgence. These are cartoon
characters.
- Cooper seems to be the only guy in America who has a problem with living in a commune.
Barb tears him down and she’s right. Coop is full of shit. So why did he endanger Janey by
exposing her to the war? Cooper could have left on his own for her sake.
- Back to the vault. Benjamin was telling Lucy how to use a toilet and she says she’s from a
vault. Shouldn’t they have asked her about that when they found her in a vault suit with 33
on it? Benjamin says he’s a fifth generation native, which means the mutant uprising
happened relatively recently in the two hundred year timeline. Lucy doesn’t ask the obvious
question of why the natives are all mutated. The first thing that should be on her mind.
Benjamin has xenophobic prejudices of surface dwellers, but this ultimately doesn’t get in
the way of his acceptance of the refugees. Ben gives Lucy so many opportunities to ask the
obvious it drives me crazy. But Lucy can’t ask because woke DEI HR Science. The authors
are stupid jack-offs. Ben is racist too. I’m rolling my eyes here.
- Lucy doesn’t tell Benjamin what isolation is like. Why did Vault 4 take in refugees? Did they
have contact with the surface before Shady Sands was nuked? Shouldn’t they have been
NCR citizens?
- Lucy asks what’s up with level 12 and Ben gets offended. It’s not a secret that vault 4 natives
are mutants. It’s literally all over their faces! Ben could have given a reasonable explanation
without getting weird about it. Everything is contrived to set up the punchline.
- It suddenly occurs to Maximus that his armor still doesn’t have a fusion core. Asks some guy
where their power comes from and they show him. How is this not a bigger security breach
than being on level 12v Maximus impulsively goes through the process of stealing the core.
What a fucking idiot.
- Birdie convinces Maximus to indulge in domestic amenities. He loves the shit out of it. The
vaults loop footage of the natural world on their tv broadcasts. Maximus tastes caviar for the
first time.
- Lucy takes a nostalgic tour of the schoolroom. Dioramas of shady sands trigger Lucy’s
childhood memories a little. The chalkboard doesn’t need comment. It’s an obvious
continuity error that they scrambled to explain away after the fact. Oh the nuking happened
RIGHT AFTER the events of New Vegas? Way to trivialize the whole fucking point of the
game. NCR flag and new Vegas theme. Member that, you fucking hogs?
- Native dweller doesn’t tell Luxyvwhat happens in the ritual of Gen though she doesn’t know.
- “The Presidential Palace” is a repurposed BBQ joint. Sorrel and Cooper have a history
together. So much that sorrel is confident enough to untie coop. Cooper sews Lucy’s finger
on his hand? His own? “Looking for her.” Barb? Cooper dodges the issue. Sorrel declared
himself president. Of what?
- Cooper has heard “chatter” about Moldaver as if he isn’t familiar with her. Sorrel says
Moldaver is called the “flame mother” and is extremely dangerous. How long was Cooper
buried in the ground by Dom Pedro that he doesn’t know who Moldaver is? Has Moldaver
only been active as a bandit leader within the last few years?
- Sorrell says the Super-Duper organ mart is “under our protection.” What protection? There
were no guards at the super-duper mart. Nobody with old sheriff’s uniforms. Even the
conceit of a protection racket is nonsensical because the showrunners don’t know what
they’re doing. A protection racket is a “racket” because in a civilized society the cops
provide all the real protection. Gang protection is only needed to provide enforcement
beyond the purview of the police. NCR was nuked and there is no law anymore. It’s so
lawless that Sorrell declared himself “President” and is effectively collecting taxes with a
handful of guys in police uniforms. It’s actually impossible to believe. Sorrell doesn’t even
live in a community he rules, he’s just a fat pig in an empty diner.
- Sorrell has Troy disarmed even though his plan is to feed Cooper to the hogs. Why?
Professional courtesy? Cooper recognizes Moldaver from her bounty poster. Who is drawing
up these bounty posters anyways?
- Cooper drives a sick ass car with cool doors. This is an important contrast to Bud’s dinky
car we see in the finale.
- The tone of playing the flake mother cult scene and the meeting with Moldaver at the same
time is giving off weird vibes. Are the “communists” meant to be interpreted as occultic
followers of Moldaver? Why does blood need to be spilled to return Shady Sands?
- Lucy goes straight to Maximus instead of asking any pertinent questions. She wasn’t forced
to leave. The native dwellers think the ritual is weird, so they could have answered questions.
Aye carumba.
- “Do you want to make my cock explode now?”
- Lucy realizes Titus is settled in. And she has no proof that the dwellers are nefarious. Now
we investigate level 12. The ride is uneventful. Access door wide open. There is no security.
- Dead gulper in the specimen tank. Holotape was set to play the scariest part it could right in
front of the birthing tank. A woman gives birth to infant gulpers who proceed to devour her
like piranhas. This raises multiple problems, like why didn’t the gulpers eat her out from the
inside? If the actual purpose of the Vault-tec conspiracy is to run a long term eugenics
program, why make women bear human hybrid bioweapons? It’s the most dysgenic thing
imaginable. Why is Vault-Tec developing bioweapons in the vaults? It serves no purpose
other than being evil for the sake of it. FEV was a proprietary West-Tek development so why
is it being experimented on in vault 4? Is vault 4 actually a West-Tek facility? Why? Shouldn’t
West-Tek have their own facilities? Shouldn’t they have their own eugenics vault like Vault-
Tec pitched them?
- A native dweller is monitoring cryotubes with pregnant women in them. Presumably women
who would give birth and die if they’re thawed out. Lucy gets caught and throws acid in his
face. Not a bad display of Lucy’s martial skills. Birdie captures her and says something
cryptic.
It took me five whole hours to review this episode I had so much to think about. Every time the
show goes back to pre-war it finds a new way to break the setting and mischaracterize
capitalism to its ignorant audience of passive liberal subjects. The vault 4 stuff was my favorite
on first viewing and now I couldn’t possibly hate it more. It’s all so badly plotted.

I'll also add here that "The Joke" about Vault 4 isn't funny at all on a re-view because it's obvious how much everything is contrived to set up the punchline. Over and over again writers are constructing scenarios that fit into the style guide of the showrunners instead of doing something like the waltz on the bridge in episode 5 that makes sense and develops naturally from the setting.
 
Which aren't all that impactful. Bo from Superstore just casually walks around with a mangled foot (yes, CT, he's limping a bit), takes off his boot and sock off his foot where the toes are only held on by skin, open bones and everything. Then he puts it all back on with maybe the noise Peter Griffin makes when he stubs his shin.
And then he gets healed, by ghoul magic.
Dollar Store New Girl gets her thumb cut off, barely makes a sound, then gets a new thumb and it's never mentioned again besides the color.
The overuse of slomo ultraviolence with whimsical music was funny the first time they did it, lame in every subsequent instance.
It's not really all that horrible when it's always played for laughs (except maybe the woman giving birth to piranhas?).
I don't make much note of it at all, but the soundtrack is a huge problem. Playing old timey swing & big band music over fight scenes just doesn't work. It's just more pointless fanservice because of how the radios worked in-game, but the games HAVE COMBAT MUSIC. They could have made their own tracks for all the combat scenes and it could have sold them. The soundtrack indulges in anachronism in a way that's baffling to anyone who hasn't played the games.
 
Did so much work on Six I felt like I needed to review all of my notes to see where we're at. Apparently I actually liked episode 4 and 5 the most, which makes sense because Cooper is such a great character, and the plots aren't dealing as directly with the broken twists the showrunners set up. Norm is also a great character who has a good dynamic with Chet, and Betty is a convincing antagonist. The vault 32 stuff really is when the show is at its best because it's a straightforward mystery that unfolds logically, and is told through characters who have believable knowledge & motivations. There are bits here and there in 32 that don't work, obviously, but mostly because they're broken by the big twists. The closer we get to the finale and the more we see of the old world, the worse it gets. It's another insult to the intelligence over and over again. I'm desperate to claw back to the pre-Fallout TV world like a reactionary simpleton just so I can forget ever experiencing this fucking travesty. If people could tell how shitty it is I could live with it, but they don't. So I can't!
 
I don't make much note of it at all, but the soundtrack is a huge problem. Playing old timey swing & big band music over fight scenes just doesn't work. It's just more pointless fanservice because of how the radios worked in-game, but the games HAVE COMBAT MUSIC. They could have made their own tracks for all the combat scenes and it could have sold them. The soundtrack indulges in anachronism in a way that's baffling to anyone who hasn't played the games.
It was funny in the first episode because it came out of left field, but they repeated the formula way too much.
 
Took me five full hours all told to get through episode 6. Needless to say Vault 4 is not my favorite part anymore. Holy fucking shit. The more it goes back to pre-war the more it finds new ways to break the setting and misunderstand capitalism. This is a FULL THIRD of my total notes.

Notes on Episode 6


I'll also add here that "The Joke" about Vault 4 isn't funny at all on a re-view because it's obvious how much everything is contrived to set up the punchline. Over and over again writers are constructing scenarios that fit into the style guide of the showrunners instead of doing something like the waltz on the bridge in episode 5 that makes sense and develops naturally from the setting.

Coopers car was really sick for real those doors were awesome
 
Coopers car was really sick for real those doors were awesome
Cooper is such a great character, which is why it's terrible that there's so much wasted potential.

Notes on Episode 7
Episode 7 “The Radio”
Directed by: Kilner & Toye
Written by: Chaz Hawkins
- Father/son scavenger team picking through sand in NCR armor. They’re picking coins but to
what purpose? Wasteland currency is still bottle cap based, so are the precious metals
being smelted for some other purpose? Cooper confirms that they’re actually lead farming.
Not sure why they’d be picking for lead in desertified nowhere then. It’d be easier to find
lead for recasting bullets at a shooting range or a military training camp.
- Cooper is waiting for them in their home. He was hosted by the daughter. Erik Estrada is
good in the role. Wasted on a bit character. The father describes Moldaver as a “mad
woman.” So far all we’ve heard about Moldaver is that she’s dangerous and crazy, and the
only substantial things we’ve seen of her followers is that they’re either murderous savages
or fanatics who worship Moldaver as their messiah. The show keeps hinting over and over
again that Hank & Moldaver are two sides of the same coin, but by the end of the season we
still don’t know anything about Moldaver’s band, what they actually believe, or what
Moldaver’s real agenda is.
- “There’s always some new little faction ain’t there?” Cooper doesn’t think the world needs
saving. He enjoys the freedom of action that post-apocalyptic chaos allows. Also can’t help
but feel like this is the attitude of the authors. Factions are treated as a total afterthought.
Only the Brotherhood has interesting things going on because they’re so iconic to the
franchise, but they’re underexplored and underutilized. Dane should have also been a POV
character. The authors’ attitudes regarding the factions reflects a more general skepticism in
the efficacy of political action and being part of a movement greater than yourself. This is
liberal individualism asserting itself over the realities of politics, and views the individual as
being a more rational actor than groups.
- Cooper had already killed the elder son because of his link to Ma June and the plot to
transport Wilzig. The younger son actually delivered the caps that secured the contract. So
why didn’t we see Cooper doing any of this investigative work? Last time we saw him he’d
just blasted Sorrel’s goons and was reminiscing over Moldaver’s wanted poster. So how was
Cooper able to get on Moldaver’s trail? He would have at least had to backtrack to Filly to
start from there.
- The younger son believes Moldaver is building something worth dying for, but what is it?
What’s Moldaver’s plan for the core? What was she telling her followers? Cooper is trying to
track down this faction and he’s not even curious about what’s up with them. The son
betrays the faction by telling Coop they’re at the observatory. Cooper baits the son into
drawing so he can kill him, in an echo of Shane. Another great scene that didn’t get bogged
down by any of the big twists. You could show this scene to anyone and it’d explain
everything they need to know about Cooper’s character.
- Flashback to the “Hollywood forever” meeting. Moldaver says the American Dream is a lie
and that they have more in common with America’s enemies than the ruling class. This is bog
standard communist rhetoric, which is why Cooper can’t handle it. Miss Williams calls
Cooper a snowflake for being triggered. Williams questions Cooper’s principles and Cooper
uses the self-serving logic of market exchange to excuse away why he endorsed Vault-Tec.
The problem is, we know Cooper has some principles even if they’re nonsense that
prevented him from accepting a corporate sponsor before, so at this moment he’s
bullshitting. Cooper calls communism an ideology that ends in “breadlines” but he should
also know from the state of the world that food shortages are everywhere. This is also
something shown in the games leading up to the nuclear exchange, but the tv show portrays
America as Leave it To Beaver Land.
- Williams says she knows Barb and Cooper immediately asks how. Holy shit a character with
a couple brain cells to run together! Williams says her research company (meaning she was
the proprietor, or just a researcher?) was bought out by Barb’s division at Vault-Tec (what is it
exactly?). She says that cold fusion is difficult to monetize because it’s near limitless power,
but for Vault-Tec and the government’s purposes it could have made the vaults last for
millennia and guaranteed a power source for the starseeding ship that the Enclave was
planning to flee Earth on. The introduction of cold fusion energy could have also saved
capitalism. Even if it’s impossible to extract profit from, there are so many other sectors that
would become profitable with cheap as free energy. It would have been in America’s interest
to monopolize cold fusion as a measure of global control, not repress it. Like “hydraulic
despotism” in the Dune series. Vault-Tec also left a paper trail of acquisitions the US
government should be aware of, and the Enclave has the core at the beginning of the series,
so one way or another the US government did come to possess the cold fusion research.
Showrunners have a total lack of imagination, do not understand capitalism, and etc.
- Williams says Vault-Tec bought up “every company I ever worked for.” But not Williams
herself? My theory: Moldaver eventually accepted a deal that got her a seat on Vault-Tec’s
board, and she was frozen in vault 31. Which would explain how she’s one of the only
people in the world to age like a cryosleeper. Williams gives Coop a big to spy on Barb.
- “I’m not a communist, Mr. Howard. That’s just a dirty word they use to describe people who
aren’t insane.” Liberals have this bizarre tendency to deny the validity of radical politics as if
they’re an affectation taken on by cynical actors who are fundamentally liberal at heart.
Communism doesn’t actually exist in the world of the tv show, it’s just a slur that
conservatives (who are also Liberal, I’ll add) use to smear liberalism’s reality based bias. Any
Chinese Communist would say that the United States is an imperial tyrant trying to decide
the destiny of the world through monopolizing its resources, and that this imperialistic stance
is endemic to capitalism itself, not an issue of bad actors at the commanding heights of
corporations & the government. If America was a petite bourgeois Nazi paradise of “small
business owners” it would still be warring with China for the same reasons.
- Back to vault 4. Ben & Birdie play Hawthorne’s last recording on the holotape. Hawthorne
was overseer when the mutant uprising happened, and insists that a society of scientists
with unregulated control is the ideal structure, and their failure shouldn’t be taken as proof
that the Vault-Tec concept is flawed. Hawthorne reveals that the actual purpose of the
research was crossing humans with radioactive resistant species to maximize human
survival. Hawthorne and his wife are dragged off by a gulper NOTE: this is gonna be relevant
with Benjamin.
- Ben says the creature in the video was “my great uncle Peter, on my mom’s side.” PAUSE:
are we supposed to believe that the gulpers are sentient and have human intelligence? How
did a gulper sire humanoid offspring that it didn’t immediately swallow whole? Why are there
wild gulpers that don’t produce any humanoid offspring? It’s completely unbelievable. Just
this one throwaway joke breaks everything established in the tv show up to this point.
Astounding.
- Ben asks Lucy what the experiment in 33 was and Lucy says there was no experiment.
She’s not wrong. The management vaults aren’t an experiment they’re an ideological project.
The dwellers should know about the control vaults too since they brought in Shady Sands
refugees who would know about them.
- Now they punish Lucy. Maximus takes the core. Yaddy-yadda. Lucy protests by saying “I’m
a good person!” Is she?
- Oh hey it’s Dogmeat everyone! Dogmeat has apparently been following Thaddeus for the last
three whole episodes off-screen. Thaddeus’s foot is completely fucked up after Maximus
stomped on it. It’s actually snowing at the red rocket. Why? Is it actually ash? What season
is it? Everything about the geography and climate is eclectic in this show. I thought
everything was taking place south & southwest of the San Gabriel mountains. Where the
Boneyard is.
- Thaddeus traps Dogmeat in a nuka cola ice box. Thaddeus chooses NOW to start to contact
the brotherhood after at least one whole day of trudging on his fucked up foot.
- Is Lucy’s trial meant to show how Moldaver conducts justice? Ben’s use of a Dao to cut
Lucy’s bindings is an interesting choice. A Chinese sword could only have come in with the
refugees, and they would have gotten it through trade with the Shih. So where are they? The
Shih were never incorporated into the NCR so they should still have a vibrant civilization in
San Francisco. So where are all the Shih in Southern California? As with communism,
Chinese people don’t exist in Fallout TV.
- I think I liked this so much the first time around because Chris Parnell does such a great job
as Benjamin.
- They give Lucy two weeks of supply for exile. Maximus fucks it all up. Lucy makes “Titus”
give back the fusion core. “Yeah but, I needed it for the armor.” Maximus is actually a child.
The armor suit is left at the entrance door, and they drop the core down the trap door. How
long of a walk was that?
- Lucy offers Titus a place in the vault and tells him about her recent past. “You’re the best
stranger that I’ve ever met. You’re a good person.” Lady, you just had to talk this guy down
from leaving an entire community to die of an energy shortage. This man is a self-absorbed
mo-ron.
- Maximus tells the truth. Denies he’s a good person. The first time Maximus shows any
integrity. Lucy immediately processes it by saying she just threw acid in a guy’s face. Now
they’re good like nothing even happened. *CLAP* hey lady! Remember the deal that
Maximus made with you? He promised an entire squad of Brotherhood warriors in power
armor to rescue Hank. The whole basis of your relationship was bullshit, and you
immediately move on. Hello? You should at least be a little mad about it. Maximus should be
forced to go through some contrition, but instead you’re letting him off the hook just like you
did with Cooper. And Cooper is a serial killer! This character isn’t a good person she’s lawful
stupid. I’m guessing that this is an issue of not establishing continuity between the writing
staff. I guess the writer wasn’t aware of or had forgotten the deal Lucy & Maximus made,
and nobody corrected it. That or the creative team are just total morons, or both.
- Fred Armisen plays DJ Carl, a parody of NPR type liberal radio, who only has fiddle records
to play. Actual Portlandia bullshit. Thaddeus is much worse for wear after lightening his load
at the red rocket.
- Chickenfucker is trying to blow his brains out with what looks like a small caliber pipe rifle,
until he sees Maximus walking by and wants to live just to scam another mark.
Chickenfucker’s office is a dilapidated pharmacy. Chickenfucker picks out a serum
seemingly at random and prepares it in an inhaler with brown glass. The brown glass makes
it impossible to compare with ghoul juice.
- Chickenfucker agrees to treat Thaddeus in exchange for his treatment. The serum is actually
in Chuckenfucker’s pharmacology suitcase, not the pharmacy. He has a number of
decoctions in the box, but the one he draws from looks like hydrated piss. Not at all like the
ghoul juice seen earlier. He also knows it’s a cure-all. Thaddeus’s foot practically heals itself.
At this point Thaddeus is ghoulified. Is the serum FEV? Thaddeus says that Shady Sands is
highly radioactive, yet earlier Maximus and Lucy were standing at the edge of the crater like
it was nothing. Chickenfucker says Thaddeus doesn’t have to worry about that, which
means he knows that the serum is actually a mutagen.
- Norm is still on food serving duty for the prisoners. The raiders haven’t calmed down at all
and are still acting like savages. None of them have been willing to talk either. Now the
prisoners are dead of rat poison with no prior indication of who actually did it. Steph had the
most motive but Betty also had the means, and getting rid of the raiders helps maintain the
continuity of the vault by insulating the dwellers from knowledge of the outside. Veronica is
arrested on suspicion of being the perp. Betty reiterates “words have meaning.” “We people
like to have something to fuss about.”
- Betty immediately issues the vault assignments. She almost certainly timed the poisoning to
coincide with the resettlement, so why have we spent so much time with Steph? Woody is
assigned to 32 while Reg is staying in 33. Betty is trying to split up the council. The old guy
is stoked at being ass igned to 32 because it gives him a chance to run for overseer again.
Steph and Chet are both assigned to 32. Betty is also trying to isolate Norm. Chet is ready to
give up on everything he’s learned for the security of donesticity. “You’re a coward, you
know that, Chet?” “We all are. That’s why we live in a vault. That’s why we live in a vault.”
- Chet’s line acknowledges how far Norm has come from a character who cowered in the
maintenance hatch, to someone willing to take extreme risks to discover the truth. Why is
Norm the only main character going through any kind of character development?
- NOTE: does resettlement resolve the water chip crisis? Are they going to seal the access
door and not exchange for three more years again?
- Cooper is on Thaddeus’s trail and finds Dogmeat in the icebox.
- Prewar again. Cooper is curious about the bug Moldaver gave him. He inserts the bug into
Barb’s pip boy. Coop dumps the earpiece in the trash. Cooper fishes the earpiece out of the
trash because he doesn’t like the no dogs rule? Probably not. Cooper was reviewing his
advert for Vault 4 and is curious about what vault-Tec actually does.
- Cooper says Dogmeat ain’t Roosevelt.
- Maximus and Lucy catch up with Thaddeus, who has gone to the DJ to use his radio tower
to contact the brotherhood. Hipster joke falls flat. Thaddeus dumps an entire mag at L&M
and misses all shots. He triggers the crossbow trap that sticks him in the neck. “Why am I
not dead?” Yeah, why not? Since when have ghouls been immortal? Thaddeus’s wounds
close up instantly. Why isn’t he going through necrosis?
- Brotherhood arrives for the head. Thaddeus flees because he’s a ghoul now and the
brotherhood will kill him. Leaves the head with Maximus. Maximus comes up with the fake
head plan, which is obviously stupid and won’t work. Lucy and Maximus kiss. At least
Maximus is showing some initiative now. The romantic relationship between M&L is
completely unearned. Feels like they just made it happen.
- Betty is giving orientation for resettlement. Woody has a panic attack and tries backing out
of being sent to 32. Betty says she conferred with the “high council” and Steph was picked
to be overseer of 32. Finally Steph has something to do other than be pretty and act weird.
Chet and Norm look regretful at each other over being split up. Easily the best character
dynamic in the show. Who doesn’t love a big guy-little guy team? They really are resealing
32. Doesn’t this mean the water crisis isn’t resolved? They never said the water chip was
resolved iirc. The population of 33 has been too severely depleted to maintain genetic
diversity between the vaults. How much inbreeding is actually going on in this eugenics
experiment?
- Norm sneaks into Betty’s office and hacks into her terminal to contact 31. Says Betty needs
to return. Bud asks if she’s compromised. Norm says mission not going to plan. Bud says to
come to 31 immediately. Norm goes through the access door. Vault door wobbles a lot for
something so heavy. 31 reseals behind him.
- There are three branching hallways in the access corridor, meaning there’s more to 31 than
what we see.
The episode got a lot better when it gets away from pre-war stuff to focus on the show’s own
plot threads. Everything wrong with the show all comes back to the big twists that break
everything.
 
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The Pre-War world was fascist, not capitalist. I know it's popular in my circles of anarchist nutjobs to say they're the same but the fact is fascism was built upon rejecting capitalism and communism and presenting itself as a state-run third way. Theoretically, the huge megacorp and robber baron model of the Gilded Age and later megacorps (such as the Businessman's Plot) that side with fascist societies are actually a rejection of traditional capitalist values.

Any corporation that attempts to supplant the state as in the TV show is also rejecting capitalism. Because the purpose of capitalism is to protect private ownership, not remove private ownership by creating a new state.
 
Fascism is a complicated subject because no it's not the same thing as liberalism, but it's still nonetheless capitalist and fascism serves an essential function in the historical reproduction of capitalism. Fascists claim to be anti-bourgeois because it's an ideology of middle class bourgeois aspirationists who resent capitalists for shutting them out of "fair competition" yet want the same kind of power and privilege for themselves. Therefore, the state should arrange things so the political economy guarantees profitability to every petite bourgeois chucklehead in the district. That means denying worker rights, abusing them if they do any labor or socialist agitation, and corralling them into bodies that nominally arbitrate labor and capital disputes but are really institutions that force class collaboration.

When the Italian fascists took power in Italy, they tried liberal economic policies, and they tried socialist policies, but neither worked and ultimately the fascists deferred to the Italian bourgeois to run the political economy because they ultimately weren't all that interested in the details of developing a modern state. It's more about the pageantry and power, and the imperial ambitions that stem from it. Nominally fascism seeks to reshape the world according to one's own national idea, but functionally the whole national project burns out when it comes into contact with reality.

Historically the imposition of fascism to return profitability to capital has always been temporary. Fascist regimes left to their own devices last only a few decades before people lose the sense of vigilance needed against a nation's "internal enemies" and everyone wants to go back to a sense of normality before fascism. Oftentimes fascists turn against their own governments just to get out of interminable colonial wars, like during the military coup against Salazar. This ultimately works out just fine for liberal and bourgeois interests because all they have to do is bide their time, rake in the profits, and at the end of the process liberalism can present itself as the only "sane" alternative and everything reverts back to that default until there's another profitability crisis. Fascism guarantees the reproduction of capitalism by suspending liberal freedoms and mass murdering revolutionaries, so that politics can return to a managed bourgeois dictatorship.

America in the games is fascist because the United States is in permanent decline due to the resource shortages, and the only way to guarantee profit is to squeeze it out of the workers and guarantee that they can't agitate for their interests or struggle for better terms with capital. In the games the United States was falling apart before the nukes launched, with massive food shortages, labor strikes, and riots everywhere. But we don't see any of that in the show. The corporate conspiracy decides to end the world because they're bored of being at the commanding heights of capitalism. Fascist politics couldn't save American capitalism in the games because the whole avaricious nature of the system is what starved the world of resources in the first place.

The thing about American fascism that gives the games so much ironic resonance is that American fascism suspends liberalism while deferring with reverent worship to the liberal foundations of the United States. Liberalism is so thoroughly baked in to America's conception of self, that fascists present themselves as the True Liberals. Not too dissimilar from how historically fascists claimed to be the fulfillment of the French Revolution.
 
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The thing about American fascism that gives the games so much ironic resonance is that American fascism suspends liberalism while deferring with reverent worship to the liberal foundations of the United States. Liberalism is so thoroughly baked in to America's conception of self, that fascists present themselves as the True Liberals. Not too dissimilar from how historically fascists claimed to be the fulfillment of the French Revolution.
You confuse me when you go from talking about a fictional game or TV world to present day reality. Who are the "American Fascists?"
 
Fascism is a complicated subject because no it's not the same thing as liberalism, but it's still nonetheless capitalist and fascism serves an essential function in the historical reproduction of capitalism. Fascists claim to be anti-bourgeois because it's an ideology of middle class bourgeois aspirationists who resent capitalists for shutting them out of "fair competition" yet want the same kind of power and privilege for themselves. Therefore, the state should arrange things so the political economy guarantees profitability to every petite bourgeois chucklehead in the district. That means denying worker rights, abusing them if they do any labor or socialist agitation, and corralling them into bodies that nominally arbitrate labor and capital disputes but are really institutions that force class collaboration.

When the Italian fascists took power in Italy, they tried liberal economic policies, and they tried socialist policies, but neither worked and ultimately the fascists deferred to the Italian bourgeois to run the political economy because they ultimately weren't all that interested in the details of developing a modern state. It's more about the pageantry and power, and the imperial ambitions that stem from it. Nominally fascism seeks to reshape the world according to one's own national idea, but functionally the whole national project burns out when it comes into contact with reality.

Historically the imposition of fascism to return profitability to capital has always been temporary. Fascist regimes left to their own devices last only a few decades before people lose the sense of vigilance needed against a nation's "internal enemies" and everyone wants to go back to a sense of normality before fascism. Oftentimes fascists turn against their own governments just to get out of interminable colonial wars, like during the military coup against Salazar. This ultimately works out just fine for liberal and bourgeois interests because all they have to do is bide their time, rake in the profits, and at the end of the process liberalism can present itself as the only "sane" alternative and everything reverts back to that default until there's another profitability crisis. Fascism guarantees the reproduction of capitalism by suspending liberal freedoms and mass murdering revolutionaries, so that politics can return to a managed bourgeois dictatorship.

America in the games is fascist because the United States is in permanent decline due to the resource shortages, and the only way to guarantee profit is to squeeze it out of the workers and guarantee that they can't agitate for their interests or struggle for better terms with capital. In the games the United States was falling apart before the nukes launched, with massive food shortages, labor strikes, and riots everywhere. But we don't see any of that in the show. The corporate conspiracy decides to end the world because they're bored of being at the commanding heights of capitalism. Fascist politics couldn't save American capitalism in the games because the whole avaricious nature of the system is what starved the world of resources in the first place.

The thing about American fascism that gives the games so much ironic resonance is that American fascism suspends liberalism while deferring with reverent worship to the liberal foundations of the United States. Liberalism is so thoroughly baked in to America's conception of self, that fascists present themselves as the True Liberals. Not too dissimilar from how historically fascists claimed to be the fulfillment of the French Revolution.
Maybe pre war America just wasn't fascist, but a simple hypercapitalist Republic in decline?
 
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