Nuclear WAR - like... right now?

Blakut said:
Well first of all I would take the arm off my shirt an uraninite on it I would then tie it to my head to protect me from radioactive dust.

Why do you think that piss on your shirt on your head would protect you?

@iii

You're forgetting something: a full scale war would destroy the world. If it's not full scale (not all the missiles get launched, some are destroyed in flight) we might have a chance...

About Brazil. And Chile. And Antarctica. Wouldn't these places be safe? I mean, only Russia or China would want to target Chile. Aren't they out of range? How about Antarctica? Could you stay there safe and watch the fireworks (for real, aurora caused by high atmospheric blasts)?

I described a full scale nuclear war between the US and the USSR... and even there it was unlikely that they would cover every inch of their enemies territory.

Even if they would nuke every possible country ( which they wouldn't) this doesn't mean that the whole planet would be destroyed ( it's not a fucking asteroid!). Civilization as we know it would end, but life (even human) would continue.
 
Muff said:
Blakut said:
Well first of all I would take the arm off my shirt an uraninite on it I would then tie it to my head to protect me from radioactive dust.

Why do you think that piss on your shirt on your head would protect you?

Simple to stop radioactive dust / particles from entering my lungs. I would use piss because drinking water will become a rare commodity in the next few days also it saved some canadian soldiers during ww1 from the first gass attack.

Things don't magically become radioactive. Water will be find you just need to filter out radioactive sediment. That can be done with a t-shirt folded over a few times.

Radioactivity probably won't kill nearly as many people as ignorance.
 
Ravager69 said:
In my case it wouldn't matter much. I got diabetes and need to take medicine everytime I eat something (even if I don't I need to take a small dose to keep me going), so I'd have to scavange every apothecary for it. Plus, it has to be kept in low temperature to keep it working and I figure it'd be hard to find a working fridge in a shithole far enough to be safe from radiation. Furthermore, these medicine will run out eventually and I doubt anyone will produce it if all hell break loose. Of course I could be lucky and live for couple of months or even years, but I'm fucked in a situation like that anyway.

But who know, maybe I'd find some huge warehouse full of insulin and woulnd't breake my syringies.

Another diabetic here. Maybe we could start our own diabetic brotherhood, you know, sucking the insulin out from normal folks, crazy science experimenting etc. :D
 
Oh man, I'm totally into this idea :twisted:


Beware of the wicked vampyr skillz of the Vampihre Clan Raiders!
 
(Readies shotgun for the onslaught of diabetic vampires)

I got nothing against you personally, but I enjoy having my bodily secretions stay inside of me.
 
(Readies shotgun for the onslaught of diabetic vampires)

That sucks, but i imagine that lots of people would die without medical treatment. Any cold or pneumonia would be almost fatal in a world without doctors, without clean water or medicine.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
(Readies shotgun for the onslaught of diabetic vampires)

I got nothing against you personally, but I enjoy having my bodily secretions stay inside of me.

I like my secretions out side of me, but my fluids are good right were they are.

Aren't shotguns for zombies?
 
"Shotguns work on everything."

Yep, pretty much like a chainsaw.

As for the topic, I'd go to the nearest gun shop and arm myself (at the very least with a pistol). Next stop would be the closest convenience store to pick up lots of cigarettes (Those 2 things would get you a long way here). And then on to the mall, since their basement floors would be enough of a fallout shelter (I think).
 
I'm getting involved late, but I like the OP's concept and thought I'd run with it and see where I end up ...

I live in PA in the USA and we have several military targets here, as well as some civilian terror ones. Though if it happened right now, I'd say that it would probably be the closest nuclear power station, because that's a two for one nuke attack. You get the initial impact followed up with a secondary nightware when the station itself goes critical.

So I'm sitting here at work in my cube (no windows) and I feel the rumble from the distant blast. The lights probably flicker, or maybe go out all together. I'd probably survive the initial attack ... in fact, we'd all probably run outside and try and figure out what happened. We'd most likely see the end of the mushroom cloud rising into the air. I'd likely be frozen looking at it for several long seconds ...

Then I would starting thinking about where I needed to get to and who I needed to find. My wife and I live close to the station, so going home is out, but we both work within 40 to 50 miles of the power station, but on opposite ends ... I'd want to get to her first, but I would assume communications would be temporarily disrupted, which is a problem, because we never really discussed an emergency plan to handle something like this (writes himself a note to do that tonight).

But since it happened now ... she'll probably try and call me, I'd call her .. no luck. I'd want to get to her as quickly as possible but driving on main roads might prove difficult the longer I delay so I'd run into work, grab my keys and jump in the car and start out. I know some back roads to get to the highway .. it will likely be difficult but I think maybe if I react quickly enough I can hit the highway.

Of course, the problem here would be that my wife is going to try to do the same thing, but information may get to her a bit slower since I'm closer so depending on that I might be able to get to her parents house and link up with her there... it's closer to her work and is a likely meet up location. Meanwhile, my parents are probably freaking out, lol, but I don't think I'll be able to catch them for a while.

Her parents are a good location too because her dad has firearms, which will be important. What's really gonna fuck us is the fact that we don't already have a plan in place. I think I would react better than she would in this case, but that doesn't help us if linking up is the goal. Also, I'd try to gather any additional information I could.

Is there radio? TV? Who else has been hit? Has anyone else been hit? Hmmm, not sure what we'd do next .. even her parents are close enough to experience some form of wind carried rads. I'm probably dead, in the long run, because my inability to save myself over the need/desire to link back up with my wife would prevent me from acting swiftly enough to escape direct or long term exposure from the radiation.

Actually, I'm glad I read this thread ... I do need a better plan for my wife and I in the event of a major emergency like this.
 
Sebastian of the Wastes said:
I'm getting involved late, but I like the OP's concept and thought I'd run with it and see where I end up ...

I live in PA in the USA and we have several military targets here, as well as some civilian terror ones. Though if it happened right now, I'd say that it would probably be the closest nuclear power station, because that's a two for one nuke attack. You get the initial impact followed up with a secondary nightware when the station itself goes critical.

So I'm sitting here at work in my cube (no windows) and I feel the rumble from the distant blast. The lights probably flicker, or maybe go out all together. I'd probably survive the initial attack ... in fact, we'd all probably run outside and try and figure out what happened. We'd most likely see the end of the mushroom cloud rising into the air. I'd likely be frozen looking at it for several long seconds ...

Then I would starting thinking about where I needed to get to and who I needed to find. My wife and I live close to the station, so going home is out, but we both work within 40 to 50 miles of the power station, but on opposite ends ... I'd want to get to her first, but I would assume communications would be temporarily disrupted, which is a problem, because we never really discussed an emergency plan to handle something like this (writes himself a note to do that tonight).

But since it happened now ... she'll probably try and call me, I'd call her .. no luck. I'd want to get to her as quickly as possible but driving on main roads might prove difficult the longer I delay so I'd run into work, grab my keys and jump in the car and start out. I know some back roads to get to the highway .. it will likely be difficult but I think maybe if I react quickly enough I can hit the highway.

Of course, the problem here would be that my wife is going to try to do the same thing, but information may get to her a bit slower since I'm closer so depending on that I might be able to get to her parents house and link up with her there... it's closer to her work and is a likely meet up location. Meanwhile, my parents are probably freaking out, lol, but I don't think I'll be able to catch them for a while.

Her parents are a good location too because her dad has firearms, which will be important. What's really gonna fuck us is the fact that we don't already have a plan in place. I think I would react better than she would in this case, but that doesn't help us if linking up is the goal. Also, I'd try to gather any additional information I could.

Is there radio? TV? Who else has been hit? Has anyone else been hit? Hmmm, not sure what we'd do next .. even her parents are close enough to experience some form of wind carried rads. I'm probably dead, in the long run, because my inability to save myself over the need/desire to link back up with my wife would prevent me from acting swiftly enough to escape direct or long term exposure from the radiation.

Actually, I'm glad I read this thread ... I do need a better plan for my wife and I in the event of a major emergency like this.

Great plan... cept for the emp which totally will end your car, your radio, your communications, your computers. ANYTHING plugged into the wall or has an antenna, or a a microchip is totally fubar. But if you've got an old tube radio your set. TUBES WIN!

Get educated on what will actually happen before you make your plan. Most people won't ever see or feel a nuke go off and protecting yourself from fallout isn't hard at all.

Anyone who thinks we are all going to die will probably die. Anyone who knows we can survive and how will probably survive.

*two cents*
 
Great plan... cept for the emp which totally will end your car

Why your car? What, you think that an EMP can destroy the sparkplughs? Plus, wouldn't the metal car protect its contents from the EMP?

ANYTHING plugged into the wall or has an antenna, or a a microchip is totally fubar.

Not unless you plan in advance and buy a couple of EMP resistant long range walkie-talkies. :D But alas, no more computers to play on...
 
No. Forgive me for using a future weapons video.

A lot of the cars in my country don't have electronic parts (some models can be started by hand with no battery). The battery stayed alive in the video. Sorry, when i thought cars i didn't think electronics, i just imagined the basic outline: a gas engine, a dinamo and a battery. The battery can be exlcuded even, if you've got a diesel or a lever to spin the dinamo.
 
I would gather as many survivors as I could find and protect them from marauders, rape gangs, cannibals and other dangers. Teach them how to survive and fight. Then maybe rebuild society but differently. How differently? Don't know it depends on a lot of different factors.
 
Blakut said:
No. Forgive me for using a future weapons video.

A lot of the cars in my country don't have electronic parts (some models can be started by hand with no battery). The battery stayed alive in the video. Sorry, when i thought cars i didn't think electronics, i just imagined the basic outline: a gas engine, a dinamo and a battery. The battery can be exlcuded even, if you've got a diesel or a lever to spin the dinamo.

Obviously. If all you've got is an alternator and a spark plug you'll be just fine.

Even my truck will be fine since it has a carburetor system rather than an injection system. I'm just saying there aren't a whole lot of cars in the US that will work. Since I thought you were the other guy and had no idea where you were from.

10mmCurator said:
I would gather as many survivors as I could find and protect them from marauders, rape gangs, cannibals and other dangers. Teach them how to survive and fight. Then maybe rebuild society but differently. How differently? Don't know it depends on a lot of different factors.

I think all I'll want is a tank of gas for bringing a half dead dude back. :D
 
You're sitting at home, comfortably at your desk, browsing the forums, or at school or at work. Then you click on this topic to take a look. Suddenly, bang, nuclear blast outside, on the horizon. All power goes down and people start running and screaming on the streets. What do you do? I mean, sure, we've read the brochures and guides. But let's suppose this is for real. What would you do, considering all you personally have at your disposal at this moment?

Whip out my cell phone, call my relatives. Tell them how much I've enjoyed life up until this point. By the time I reach like the 5th relative, the blastwave would have already reached my house, so they'd just hear silence on the other end.

Then, I'd finally see if there is life after death or not.
 
I would be thinking "Why the heck are you nuking Australia ?"

Seriously, we have nothing to nuke. Maybe a few airbases here and there and the odd naval base... other than that, we're just a giant sandbox surrounded by ocean. It's almost as though we're half-way to the desert wasteland of fallout ;)

Ok, that aside, I'm pretty sure I'd survive. If ever there was a serious threat of nuclear war, I'd have a few essentials sitting around that would be rather useful:

- An AM/FM radio hardened to withstand EMP.
- Cans of non-perishable food (and a can opener... of course)
- A small reserve of petrol
- Possibly a small hangun and combat knife
- Spare car batteries (good for power) and a generator.

Of course the main problem, assuming we survive the blast is going to be fallout. It's basically radioactive dirt that was sucked into the fireball and isn't too hard to protect against. Sealing all the door and window cracks and vents with tape would be a good start, and if you want to be really safe - cover the doors and windows in tinfoil (to help reflect Beta and a few gamma rays). Building a basic air filter would be a relatively simple buisness, and definately required for maximum comfort. I have the instructions on building a rudimentary geiger-counter somewhere in my room... once I dig that out I'll have a way of gauging how dangerous the radiation outside is.

So now I'm sealed in my house with food, weapons and a basic form of communication (as yelling out the window would grant you a face-full of radiation). I could sit there for several weeks until the radiation dies down a little. Hopefully open the windows a bit after a week or two, and finally be able to venture outside once the exposure is down to just a few rems.


Oh, and in case you're wondering, all this is after I soil myself and run into a few walls in a panicky fashion ;)
 
Well, at first, I would be wondering why the hell I couldn't access any websites that aren't Canadian.

Then, the ecnomoy would break down, since the US was virtually our only supplier and buyer, we would have to resort to using the bartering system again until the government could learn how to work without the US.

That is, if the fallout from the nukes didn't reach Canada and basically annihallte the majority of the population.

Well, the government just could evacuate all of us past the the 60 latiude line, then the global wind patterns would push most of the fallout back.
 
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