Nucler winter anyone?
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I don't think setting it too far before Fallout 1 is a good idea or even really possible, because really if it's possible to run around and do quests and save the world during a nuclear winter, even the end stages, it kind of negates the whole "apocalypse/complete collapse of civilization" aspect of the game world.
Fallout 2 intro suggests the nuclear holocaust was followed by a "quiet darkness" which lasted "many years".
If you ask me, though, Fallout 2 intro is full of shit. Nuclear winter wasn't discovered until the 1980s. Hence, there was no concept of nuclear winter in '50s fiction, which means nuclear winter doesn't belong in the Fallout setting.
If you ask me, though, Fallout 2 intro is full of shit. Nuclear winter wasn't discovered until the 1980s. Hence, there was no concept of nuclear winter in '50s fiction, which means nuclear winter doesn't belong in the Fallout setting.
Arachnivore
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Edit: I retract my previous statement
Is there a consistent 50s SciFi view of how weather would be affected by nuclear war? I'm not familliar with much 50s post-apocalypse fiction but if there isn't anything written about the meteorological impact of a nuclear war then I don't see a conflict with 50s fiction.
I do agree with Montez, however, that it would be hard to portray the "complete collapse of civilization" if civilization is already rebuilding shortly after the war. Also, there is a slight conflict with the Wild West feel of fallout.
Is there a consistent 50s SciFi view of how weather would be affected by nuclear war? I'm not familliar with much 50s post-apocalypse fiction but if there isn't anything written about the meteorological impact of a nuclear war then I don't see a conflict with 50s fiction.
I do agree with Montez, however, that it would be hard to portray the "complete collapse of civilization" if civilization is already rebuilding shortly after the war. Also, there is a slight conflict with the Wild West feel of fallout.
Rickhardslab
First time out of the vault
I also agree with Montez, as there wouldnt be much other than a tumbleweed colony to explore. Also who would be out and about at such a time? I dont completely agree with Ratty, in that several things in the Fallout games themselves dont agree with 50s fiction and that the Fallout 2 intro is crap.
Interesting suggestion though.
Interesting suggestion though.
Just a thought, but if there was a nuclear winter to occur in a future Fallout game, wouldn't it have to be set fairly far in the future, as the world in Fallout 2 was quite the opposite?
I understand that after a nuclear blast, the fallout and whatnot heats the earth, then cools it, heats and cools blah blah blah... And with each repetition, the cycle becomes shorter and shorter, till eventually the fluctuations become minor.
Which brings upon the debate of the time that Fallout 3 will be set, according to the date of Fallout 1/2.
If the game was set too far into the future, the technology may have changed, and hence society, thus leaving a gap where the player does not understand what has happened since the last Fallout, depending on whether the game IS based on the previous Fallouts.
Anywho, the nuclear winter may be a different approach to the Fallout genre, but definetly would not fit in.
I understand that after a nuclear blast, the fallout and whatnot heats the earth, then cools it, heats and cools blah blah blah... And with each repetition, the cycle becomes shorter and shorter, till eventually the fluctuations become minor.
Which brings upon the debate of the time that Fallout 3 will be set, according to the date of Fallout 1/2.
If the game was set too far into the future, the technology may have changed, and hence society, thus leaving a gap where the player does not understand what has happened since the last Fallout, depending on whether the game IS based on the previous Fallouts.
Anywho, the nuclear winter may be a different approach to the Fallout genre, but definetly would not fit in.