Obama V.S. China

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8492608.stm

China warns Obama not to meet Dalai Lama

China has warned that ties with the US would be undermined if US President Barack Obama met the Dalai Lama.

There is speculation that Mr Obama will meet the Tibetan spiritual leader in Washington later this month, but no date has been confirmed.

Communist Party official Zhu Weiqun said such a meeting would "threaten trust and co-operation" between Beijing and Washington.

The dispute is the latest of several strains on the countries' relations.
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Interesting news indeed. It wasn't so long ago that Obama was seeing (by some) as bowing down to China during his Chinese visit due to the Chinese economical might/and influence on American markets. And all of the sudden, he grows a pair? Does it have something to do with growing Republican influences? Who knows?

Meanwhile:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/30/china-taiwan-weapons.html

China rankled over U.S.-Taiwan arms deal
U.S. military attaché in Beijing summoned
Last Updated: Saturday, January 30, 2010 | 9:34 AM ET
CBC News

China's defence ministry said Saturday it would suspend military exchanges with the United States and impose sanctions on companies selling weaponry to Taiwan over Washington's planned $6.4-billion US arms deal with the island.

China took a similar step in 2008 after the former Bush administration announced a multibillion-dollar arms sale to Taiwan — the most sensitive issue in U.S.-China relations.

Beijing claims the self-governing Taiwan as its own territory, while the United States is Taiwan's most important ally and largest arms supplier.
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Taiwanese are saying, hey, we got money too! You guys in recession? No problem! Heck, we'll forgive you for abandoning us and give you $6.4 billion dollars for some of your surplus military stuff you don't know what to do with, and help keep some of your voters working!

lol, please note my sarcasm. :P
 
China is a horrible country, run by a dumbass government that swallowed Mao's and Marx's bullshit. I'd love it if the U.S. put a huge tariff on Chinese exports. Would probably knock their asses into a recession.
 
OakTable said:
China is a horrible country, run by a dumbass government that swallowed Mao's and Marx's bullshit. I'd love it if the U.S. put a huge tariff on Chinese exports. Would probably knock their asses into a recession.
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And then they come over and say, "Yeah, about all that money you owe us..."
 
victor said:
And then the US comes over and says "Hey, we have more nukes".
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And then pretty much the entire world comes over and says, "Yeah...you think you can use those without losing every ally and making an unprecedented amount of enemies?"
 
Professor Danger! said:
victor said:
And then the US comes over and says "Hey, we have more nukes".
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And then pretty much the entire world comes over and says, "Yeah...you think you can use those without losing every ally and making an unprecedented amount of enemies?"
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And then if they start something we nuke them to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCim7mmLWRA


Cimmerian Nights said:
We still have allies left?
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Yeah, but a few of them are allies who would stick by us no matter what horrific event we initated, Israel comes to mind.
 
The movie Threads comes to mind when talking about a nuke fight. Nobody wins, well mabe the smaller countries who didn't get involved.

On the other hand, good old conventional warfare by proxy is always availale.

Think Robot Jockx/Jox (forget which one it was along with a certain Gundam series).
 
Yeah, nothing like setting off nukes, that's a brilliant idea!


China is also nuclear powered, you know. They have nukes, and probably the largest military in the world. While the US probably has a SUPERIOR military, it wouldn't go well for either side. Especially since the U.S is not in that much of a bargaining position anymore.
 
well, since I depend on chineses to work, since I work with exportation and importation with China, I'd be terrible worried if they arrange problems with the US. But Ideologically, I would be happy, since each day that passes, I dislike more and more chinese people, their country, their way of doing things, their way of treating others, they way of being.

But I guess its better a paid person hating chinese than a unemployed person thinking "yay it was about the time someone did something to these assholes"
 
radiatedheinz said:
well, since I depend on chineses to work, since I work with exportation and importation with China, I'd be terrible worried if they arrange problems with the US. But Ideologically, I would be happy, since each day that passes, I dislike more and more chinese people, their country, their way of doing things, their way of treating others, they way of being.

But I guess its better a paid person hating chinese than a unemployed person thinking "yay it was about the time someone did something to these assholes"
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Yes, kill all chinese.
 
Professor Danger! said:
victor said:
And then the US comes over and says "Hey, we have more nukes".
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And then pretty much the entire world comes over and says, "Yeah...you think you can use those without losing every ally and making an unprecedented amount of enemies?"
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victor said:
Nuke 'em all. Nobody likes China, anyway.
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Mhmmm ... could finally start a REAL Fallout then, sweeeet <3 !!


Dunno I would not exagerate this china-dont-meet-lama thing. I mean considering what they did with Tibet they HAVE to give such a comment. I dont think there is any real reason to worry. Its the typical Barking dogs never bite since a visit with the Lama would hit a nerve. (by the way I dont see the lama as the holy men that the rest of the world makes out of him, hes a religious dictator and not a friend of homosexuality even if there is nothing what Budha ever said about it).
 
OakTable said:
China is a horrible country, run by a dumbass government that swallowed Mao's and Marx's bullshit. I'd love it if the U.S. put a huge tariff on Chinese exports. Would probably knock their asses into a recession.
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cant do that

wal-mart would go bankrupt, millions of "economically disadvantaged" people would no longer have a place to shop

us economy would be thrown into a tailspin as it suddenly became worthwhile to manufacture stuff in the US where we would not have the manufacturing facilities to pick up the demand/supply problems for things like clothes and such
 
I wiuld agree that this is all rhetoric and posturing.

PRC would not jeapordize its relations with the U.S. by actually demanding what is owed. They are way too busy enjoying the benefits of being a "referee", between Russia and the United States.

I have been thinking about it recently and it seems that America is well on its way to being some kind of corprocracy.
 
All China would have to do, if pushed into a corner, is cash in all the US debit it owns and bottom out the US economy, effectively destroying the US without having to fire a shot.

Sabre rattling with the Chinese is Obama's way of trying to look to the American right.
 
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