On the second day of Fallout, my true love sent to me...

[Brother None]

For their second day of the Fallout revisited event at GameBanshee, they have interviewed Chris Avellone (putting their current Fallout Revisited interview trackrecord at a Wasteland dev, a Tactics dev and a guy who did a bit of work on Fallout 2, but not too much) and posted the first part of their history of Fallout. The interview has some interesting bits:<blockquote>GB: Looking back, is there anything about the development of Fallout 2 that you would have liked to change? Was any content removed due to cost or time constraints that you would have liked to see implemented?

Chris: Less in-jokes, it's a pretty immature way to design a game (it's a design directive here at Obsidian that we don't do in-jokes or cultural references). We ran out of time at the end to do everything we planned (it always happens), so some locations had to be downscaled or cut. I did want to have the EPA location in the game (I put up a rough area doc of that way back when for a Fallout Bible entry), but it was better for the game getting done that we didn't put it in. I also wish there'd been more time for the Raider Camp, which was pretty empty.

(...)

GB: Were any of you at Obsidian interested in acquiring the rights to Fallout 3 when they became available? What was your reaction to the news that Interplay had sold the rights to Bethesda Softworks?

Chris: I don't think it was ever an option that ever came up (I think it was offered to much higher bidders than we could hope to be) - and Bethesda totally works for me. Oblivion kicked a great deal of ass.

GB: Why do you suppose Interplay retained the rights to any massively multiplayer Fallout titles? Do you think we'll ever see such a game, and if so, would a Fallout MMORPG even work?

Chris: I have no idea, but I think it would totally work, though.

GB: If you were given the choice, would you like to see Obsidian pursue a post-apocalyptic RPG in the same vein as the Fallout series? Why or why not?

Chris: Nope, I'd rather we do something brand new that builds on the RPG mechanics and aesthetic style guides of that and other Interplay RPGs to create something that's better than Fallout. If it's post-apocalyptic, so be it, but it doesn't have to be similar to Fallout.</blockquote>Link: Interview with Chris Avellone on GameBanshee
Link: History of Fallout pt 1 on GameBanshee

 

[Ratty Sr.]

Chris: I don't think it was ever an option that ever came up (I think it was offered to much higher bidders than we could hope to be) - and Bethesda totally works for me. Oblivion kicked a great deal of ass.

Upon reading these words I decided to kill Chris Avellone and am now looking for the optimal (i.e. most painful) means. Any suggestions?

 

[forddieselguy]

I was reading through the article on Gamebanshee and noticed the screenshots on the side. The top one looks like the Master from FO1. The rest I have never seen, the second looks like Fallout, but not from any area I have ever visited. The third I am guessing is Tactics, never played it. The others have me stumped.
Can any one shed some light on the origin of these pics?

Edit: After some thinking, I think I have it. Just noticed the very top one is Wasteland, the second FO1, third FO2-I assume the Enclave, never got that far in the game. The forth must be Tactics.
The fifth and sixth I'm stumped, maybe a glimsp of FO3. the sixth one I can see being FO3 but not the fifth.

 

[FeelTheRads]

<s>Erm... dude...

The top one (the actual top one) is from Wasteland.
The second one doesn't looks like The Master, it IS The Master.
The third one is from Fallout 2, at the Enclave entrance. (I should assume you haven't played Fallout 2 either, then?)
The 4th and 5th I will not explain for I don't admit the existence of those games.
And the last one is from Van Buren.</s>


Edit: Nevermind then.

 

[Roshambo]

Chris: Less in-jokes, it's a pretty immature way to design a game (it's a design directive here at Obsidian that we don't do in-jokes or cultural references).

Amusing that he says it's a pretty immature to design a game with in-jokes, when people far better than him in design have done so in the past and managed to NOT suck until they bowed to garbage "trends" like he's whored himself out for numerous times.

No, an immature way of designing a game is to work on useless munchkinfesting shit as fanservice (KoTORII: The Shit Lords), which from a design perspective is far worse to the gameplay than a few jokes.

But when has MCA ever been keen on doing what's right? How about lying about their own work in overhyping, for instance? I have already posted a link that debunks a lot of that shit, but I can't find it at the moment. I know I say this a lot...but ol' "Descent to Undermoron" really doesn't have a leg to stand on when claiming anything about developing maturely when he hasn't done anything close in his entire fucking career, from skullfucking Fallout 2 into potential failure, to cheaply whoring out lies for DtU, to making KoTOR II a munchkinfest that in reality was a crappy immature sequel to the far better KoTOR, to following Feargus and Co in working on NWN 2 and then some other crap. Yeah, I'm praising BioWare's work over Obsidian's, odd as that might sound.

You have to wonder what part MCA also had in FOS, given that he's thanked right after Herve Caen in the credits. I suppose we found out who Chucky was talking to.

Thanks, Chris. You still fucking suck.

 

[Josan]

Thanks, Chris. You still fucking suck.

I'll second that. And word is he, FU and JES do that on a daily basis in FU's office.

And didn't we already bash him about Descent to Untermensch?

 

[Josan]

MEH. Stupid double posting.

Ah well, it's such a fundamental truth you can say it again and again.

You suck Avellone.

 

[Sander]

I was reading through the article on Gamebanshee and noticed the screenshots on the side. The top one looks like the Master from FO1. The rest I have never seen, the second looks like Fallout, but not from any area I have ever visited. The third I am guessing is Tactics, never played it. The others have me stumped.
Can any one shed some light on the origin of these pics?

Edit: After some thinking, I think I have it. Just noticed the very top one is Wasteland, the second FO1, third FO2-I assume the Enclave, never got that far in the game. The forth must be Tactics.
The fifth and sixth I'm stumped, maybe a glimsp of FO3. the sixth one I can see being FO3 but not the fifth.

The third is Fallout 2's oil platform (the entrance to it).
The fourth is Tactics. The fifth is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and the sixth is Van Buren.

 

[forddieselguy]

Thank you Sander for the responce. After reading the third installment of the article, I figured out the 5th pic. I usually stick to racing/sports games on the console, so I never would have played BOS. Looks very crappy indeed. I can see why it is hated so much. I just aquired Fallout Tactics for my PC. I think I will give it a shot. Hopefully I will not become enraged with it's raping of the Fallout name and take a hammer to my computer.