PC Action Germany reviews Fallout 3

Brother None

This ghoul has seen it all
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PC Action Germany takes a look at Fallout 3. They give the game a 90%, explaining the detractions from 100% as -4% handling of the Pip-Boy could be easier; -2% some boring dungeon-crawling; -1% dreary environment; -1% player character moving too slow; -1% inventory has console-like feel to it.

Tidbits and translation by DJS4000:<blockquote>[It seems the whole review had not been conducted “in-house”, but was a bethesda-sponsored event-like meeting in a luxury hotel in Nuremberg. They got to play the game for two days, which equals around 15 hours.]
[introduction and history of the fallout universe]
The tutorial is, literally, child's play. You will witness your birth, during which your mother dies, and then play through important parts of your childhood. But first you get to choose Name, Sex and Appearance, ethnic origin, hairdo, -color and one of ten faces.

[further description of the tutorial, how you learn to use WASD, the mouse-wheel, switch between first and third person. your 10th birthday, where you get the Red Ryder and learn about V.A.T.S.]

At the end of the tutorial you can either keep your stats or completely realign them. No big surprise for everyone who has played Oblivion. The tutorial is a strong indicator of the likeness of both titles, gameplay-wise.

[they go on explaining the first minutes after you left the vault, what perks are, etc. no criticism here]

The first settlement you see is Megaton, a city build around a dud nuke. But don't get us wrong, you don't have to go there. Whatever you do is completely your choice. The main quest creates its own story arc throughout the game, what you do apart form it is up to you. You can complete the game without doing any secondary quests, but we strongly advise you to do as many of them as you can. It's very rewarding.

[they explain choice and consequence by going through the megaton quest, and how you, as a female, can talk Bourke out of his fantasies with a high speech-skill and the “black-widow”-perk]

With this particular quest, both solutions lead to the same reward: some money, equipment, good or bad karma and, as the main prize, your own apartment. Here you can store items, rest to regenerate and even practice your Ikea-skills. You even get your own robot butler, who, on request, will tell you a lot of bad jokes. It is at this point, that you realize who the real stars in this game are: lots and lots of details, built into game with love. They put life into the twisted world. Part of this is the excellent dialogue [keep in mind, they have the German localization here, which, quite uncommon, seems to be excellent], the detailed, believable characters and the funny illustrations with the vault-boy, just to name a few. In only 15 hours of testing we experienced so much of the post-apocalyptic world, and everything fit together and made sense. This goes for secondary quests, too, and although they won't have so far reaching consequences like Megaton, they will almost always put you, the player, in front of decisions with moral implications. Re-playability is high.

Just one question remains: How good is Fallout 3 in direct comparison with Oblivion? Localization is excellent, and there are no unnerving abbreviations. Usability of the inventory is good, although the pip-boy-screen could have been bigger. You cannot quick-bind certain functions of the pip-boy, so you always have to go through the pip-screen, which gets boring after a while. Visually speaking, Fallout 3 is not quite up to Oblivion. Washed-out textures, and low-detail characters are a bit disappointing. What looks really good though are weapons and weapon effects, especially the Fat Man. Throughout the review, the game ran smoothly under Vista in a resolution of 1600x1200 with maximum details. The machine was 2.66Ghz quadcore with 4GB of ram and a GeForce 9800GT.

Reviewer's Commentary 1:

I bow down to the programmers! Fallout 3 came out exactly like I wanted it to be. Bethesda managed to force the look, feel and humor of the 2D-predecessors in a 3D-corset. I am especially turned on by the high replay-value. Good or Evil, Man or Woman, Action or Adventure – Fallout 3 offers you all of it, if you let yourself in. Not even Oblivion offered this much detail and complexity.

Reviewer's Commentary 2:

“[he begins the paragraph with insulting the first reviewer, who “drools more than a hungry Giant Schnauzer”] But I have to confess: I like Fallout 3 just as much. Not even for its looks, there are definitely better looking games, but the excellent story and virtually limitless freedom tickle my post-apocalyptic nature. The possibility to engage the hassle-free bodypart-targeting-mode in a firefight is brilliant. [he ends the paragraph by insulting the first reviewer, who is “worse than censored localizations”]</blockquote>
 
Here we are at the point where every negative review will be considered as a vendetta against Bethesda by fanatic Fallout fans. Even now I read arguments like: they can't all be wrong by some freak coincidence can they? So Fallout must be a great game since most of reviewers give it 9/10 and 10/10. And if we appeal to more negative review Bethesda's fanboys can always say that we're clinging to some irrelevant text.
The end is nigh.
 
Brother None said:
Just one question remains: How good is Fallout 3 in direct comparison with Oblivion?</blockquote>

Why is the reviewer comparing Fallout 3 to Oblivion, shouldn't he compare it with the predecessors. Its funny how not long time ago when somebody said that F3 is Oblivion with Guns people would scream trolling or hate speech but now its standard comparison.
 
[It seems the whole review had not been conducted “in-house”, but was a bethesda-sponsored event-like meeting in a luxury hotel in Nuremberg.
Oh boy, another Bethesda-Approved© review. No thanks.

marko2te said:
Why is the reviewer comparing Fallout 3 to Oblivion, shouldn't he compare it with the predecessors.
I suppose it isn't fair to compare apples to oranges.
 
Goral said:
Here we are at the point where every negative review will be considered as a vendetta against Bethesda by fanatic Fallout fans. Even now I read arguments like: they can't all be wrong by some freak coincidence can they? So Fallout must be a great game since most of reviewers give it 9/10 and 10/10. And if we appeal to more negative review Bethesda's fanboys can always say that we're clinging to some irrelevant text.
The end is nigh.

Well it certainly speaks volumes about the appeal of the game to fans that aren't hung up that it's 1) drastically different to the first two games, and 2) made by Bestheda in the first place.

What's so wrong about somebody enjoying the game? If they can have a great gaming experience without having to cry rape of the original, more power to them.
 
He takes 4% for Pip-Boy but only 2% for boring dungeon-crawling, its stupid logic considering half of Fallout 3 is dungeon-crawling.
 
Okay. Read the review.

He takes 2% off for SOME boring dungeon crawling. I find it so funny that a forum based around a post-apocalyptic game is so horribly apocalyptic in nature. The world is ending because fallout 3 was released!

Perhaps if Black Isle hadn't failed miserably and gone under, it wouldn't be this way. But I tell you one thing, I'm buying Fallout 3.

And who cares if it's on BethSoft's terms? That happens more than you think. Personally, I wouldn't be giving copies out after the leak of my 360 version, especially the PC version. I think Bethsoft is doing something perfectly AOK.

And this review was yet again awesome. Thanks for the transcription!
 
InZaneFlea said:
And who cares if it's on BethSoft's terms? That happens more than you think.
How does that make it okay? A review should be conducted on the reviewer's terms.
 
marko2te said:
Brother None said:
Just one question remains: How good is Fallout 3 in direct comparison with Oblivion?</blockquote>

Why is the reviewer comparing Fallout 3 to Oblivion, shouldn't he compare it with the predecessors. Its funny how not long time ago when somebody said that F3 is Oblivion with Guns people would scream trolling or hate speech but now its standard comparison.

You beat me to the punch, but yeah, it's a great question.

Why in the hell is Fallout 3 endlessly compared to how it measures up to Oblivion? Shouldn't the measure of Fallout 3 be gauged against the games it's a sequel to?
 
InZaneFlea said:
Okay. Read the review.

He takes 2% off for SOME boring dungeon crawling. I find it so funny that a forum based around a post-apocalyptic game is so horribly apocalyptic in nature. The world is ending because fallout 3 was released!

Perhaps if Black Isle hadn't failed miserably and gone under, it wouldn't be this way. But I tell you one thing, I'm buying Fallout 3.

And who cares if it's on BethSoft's terms? That happens more than you think. Personally, I wouldn't be giving copies out after the leak of my 360 version, especially the PC version. I think Bethsoft is doing something perfectly AOK.

And this review was yet again awesome. Thanks for the transcription!


I played Oblivion, generic dungeon-crawling game, that has generic enemies, generic loot, generic quests ..... and its fucking boring.
 
Reminder: if you have nothing to say, don't say it. If you want to make a point, make it in a subdued, polite way. It's for us to decide when people are out of line, not for you lot.

Reply sensibly or don't reply at all. Don't make me split this thread in twain again
 
CxBxW said:
What's so wrong about somebody enjoying the game? If they can have a great gaming experience without having to cry rape of the original, more power to them.
Did anyone say there's something wrong about enjoying the game? Who are you talking to? Your friend Mr Strawman?
 
Beelzebud said:
Why in the hell is Fallout 3 endlessly compared to how it measures up to Oblivion? Shouldn't the measure of Fallout 3 be gauged against the games it's a sequel to?

Well, I think it should be compared to both. Comparisons to Oblivion make sense since Fallout 3 is based around the Oblivion engine and style, (like the goofy animations) and also because it's the last big game that Bethesda has done. If Rockstar came out with a free-roam ninja game, they'd still ask, "is this as good as GTA?" It should be compared to the original Fallouts too though since that is the franchise they are emulating. If Interplay were making this new version of Fallout, then comparisons would not only be made with FO1 and 2, but probably the most recent game Interplay had released as well. (unless it was on a whole new engine or something)

But, I suppose the sad truth of it is; if you start making comparisons to FO1 or FO2, then a whole lot of people won't even know or care of what the reviewer is even talking about. The reviewer of the launch party made that quite clear at the end of his write-up. There seem to be a ton of people who, if not love Oblivion, at least know more about it than they do Fallout. I mean, I even see comments about how this is a ripoff of Bioshock. Yeah, OK. :roll: I don't have any real knowledge of this, but the old school Fallout crowd seem to be a pretty tight knit group.

Gamer: "There was a Fallout 1 and 2? Must have been for the Atari or something."
 
InZaneFlea said:
And who cares if it's on BethSoft's terms? That happens more than you think. Personally, I wouldn't be giving copies out after the leak of my 360 version, especially the PC version. I think Bethsoft is doing something perfectly AOK.

And this review was yet again awesome. Thanks for the transcription!

As mentioned above, there is a serious conflict of interest when a gaming company takes reviewers out to luxury hotels to do reviews. What happened to reviewing a game based on it's merits, rather than how well a company treats you beforehand.
 
Another thing that's funny about comparisons with Oblivion is that it's already evident that Fallout 3 has most of the flaws Oblivion had.
 
Apologies if this has been addressed before (I tried searching) but how is VATS explained in the game? Is it some kind of funky eyepiece or part of the PIPboy or just a game mechanic explained fourth-wall style?
 
The fact that game is enjoyable doesn't automatically mean full points. I mean, usually games that are just "fun to play" etc. score around 70-85 or something. I mean, if I rent a movie that's just fun to watch, without anything special in it, it certainly wont get top scores. To score 90-100 game has to have something extraordinary.

Oblivion, in my opinion, was horrible game. Its very boring and there ain't any kind of motivation to play the game: combat is horrible, quests are dull and story and characters (i can't remember a name of single character in the game) are crap. World leveled with you, so there ain't even the feeling of getting better.

And people wonder why comparing Fallout 3 to Oblivion scares the living shit out of me.
 
LowComDenom said:
Apologies if this has been addressed before (I tried searching) but how is VATS explained in the game? Is it some kind of funky eyepiece or part of the PIPboy or just a game mechanic explained fourth-wall style?

They don't. Your character can freeze time, and shoot people in the face until it explodes.
 
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