Polaks and Fallout

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I've decided to post this here, but if a moderator decides it would fit better into the General Discussion forum, feel free to move it there.


So I've been thinking about the Polaks lately. I heard a wonderfull quote the other day:

"The psychological landscape of the Polish is peopled with martyrs."

And it's right, actually. There's a lot of sadness among the Polish collective 'spirit': they've been the sucka's in international politics for two centuries, and it left it's mark. You can actually see it when you go to Poland: Polish landscape is not a happy landscape. Well, I've only seen the Western Polish plains, but there was still a strange kind of sadness over it... These are the lands that in about two hundred years went from Polish to Austrian hands, from Austrian to Russian hands, from Russian to Polish hands, from Polish to German hands, from German to Soviet-Russian hands and, in the end, into Polish hands again. It left its mark: it's had to express with words, but you almost *see* the sadness there.

And in the Polish psyche, a bit of that sadness lives on too. One can already see that in their religious practices (see "Pope dies" thread), but it's also a general truth: most Polish graphic artists, writers, directors or musicians of the last two century, for instance, make 'sad' art. I can't think of any 'happy happy' Polish books, movies or whatever, anyway.

So I wondered - might that be why there is such a large Polish element in the Fallout community? Might it be that the inherent sadness and martyrdom in the Polish psyche draw them to the sadness and martyrdom in the Fallout games? That the destruction and human madness in the Fallout games seems almost 'recogniseable to them': they are the people who suffered so much under German occupation in WWII, and under the Soviets later: they know, in a way, what human madness can lead to.

Discuss.
 
They were owned pretty badly by Sweden in 1701-5, they've been living in a post-apocalyptic country since.
 
Actually, we were previously owned pretty badly be Sweden in 1655, which was our sweet debut at partisan warfare - a pretty useful national trait, if you ask me.

Also, Jeebs, you forgot to mention the passing of our lands into the hands of American corporations, French retail chains and German senior citizens recently :P

As for the Fallout issue, well, I think it's because of the envy we have for American 50's and their rich culture of nuclear scare, whereas in our culture this period is seeing little recognition and is being surpressed and forgotten as an example of Stalin's enslaving of the artits. So, the modders are trying to make up for that (Hence projects like polish.wasted).

Also, it must be something with Slavic peoples and their love for the bomb - the Russian community is fertile, too.
 
Silencer said:
you forgot to mention the passing of our lands into the hands of American corporations, French retail chains and German senior citizens recently :P


Welcome to the west and capitalism. :wink:



Cheers Thorgrimm
 
Silencer said:
Also, Jeebs, you forgot to mention the passing of our lands into the hands of ...French retail chains ... recently :P

I feel sorry for you. I mean, I thought having the entente cordial (sp?) is bad enough, but that much French involvement... ugh... :P
 
Polish people and their enthusiasm making Fallout-mods

Every once in a while I can see in NMA that another polish fallout-mod has appeared! And after some time they'll all end up dead, forgotten.

But there's reason for all this I can think of :P The world of Fallouts reminds me very much of their own home environments. Some of the 'screenshots' could be photos actually taken from their backyards!

Ahh, I just hope that polish guys would actually finish some of their mods or make a game of their own with their own engine or something like that.

I've spoken.
 
Gollum said:
Some of the 'screenshots' could be photos actually taken from their backyards!

Omg lol.

In my opinion, Kajaani is probably more desolated than my back yard, thank you very much.

And the point of the topic being?
 
Hey you soviet slave, at least we didn't end up being succumbed by the Soviet supremacy!

[But it is true that Kajaani is the poorest district in the whole Finland.]

And mocking other cities ain't going to make your ugly rust holes any better. We all got our own share of problems. Some just got bit more.
 
Wow, you sound UGLY when you get angry.


(minor note: Insulting people doesnt win you the respect of long standing members here, even the polish ones)
 
horriganwf

Merged.

Also, a warning to you, Gollum, my preciousssss...

Remember, you're a hobbit, not a troll, so behave.
 
I admit. It's only understandable that the young people of Poland make their own versions of Fallout by the means of mods. In the actual Fallout development team, there was couple of guys whose names resembled of Polak ones.

If there had been any Finnish ones making that game, I would be thrilled, too! But, alas, as the Conan O'Brien once put it: "Finland: You have a culture over 5,000 years old, but the rest of the world only remembers the Huckleberry Finn!"

But note this: You have to respect the freedom of speech and that isn't achieved by staying in the old, self-censoring doctrines of Soviet Union!
 
Gollum said:
But note this: You have to respect the freedom of speech and that isn't achieved by staying in the old, self-censoring doctrines of Soviet Union!

Shit. I'd sigstuff this, but I'm truing to cut back on quoting.

I'll wait until The Comissar takes care of this one :)
 
Re: Polish people and their enthusiasm making Fallout-mods

Gollum said:
Every once in a while I can see in NMA that another polish fallout-mod has appeared! And after some time they'll all end up dead, forgotten.
You're talking about global mods, aren't you? Well, I don't track progress of all polish mods that are in development, so tell me - how many of polish global mods already ended up dead and forgotten?


Gollum said:
The world of Fallouts reminds me very much of their own home environments. Some of the 'screenshots' could be photos actually taken from their backyards!
Oh, and I wondered why that desert behind my house (did I say house? Silly me, I meant nuclear shelter) reminds me of Fallout. Stupid me.

Gollum said:
Ahh, I just hope that polish guys would actually finish some of their mods or make a game of their own with their own engine or something like that.
Well, at least three polish post-apoc RPGs on 3D engines are all ready in progress, including my own project, Polish Wasteland.

Gollum said:
Hey you soviet slave, at least we didn't end up being succumbed by the Soviet supremacy!
LOL :)
 
Gollum - go get your fish, looks like youre low on protein and your brain is slowing slightly down.... :)

Seriously - give us a break, our butt was kicked several times in the last century, and we need some time off.

And there is so many Polaks around in Fallout community because we are a sociable bunch of people - we like everybody!
 
Look, man. Making a new post in a thread that hasn't been active in more than two weeks demands that the said post has something interesting to say about the subject at hand. Sorry to say it, but your post is hardly interesting or worth digging the thread up.

Please refrain from digging up old threads unless you have anything really valuable and interesting to add to the topic.
 
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