Post-War Religions?

[Dr Fallout]

Since I have a war history fetish I love the parallels between the NCR and World War II America. So I don't mind them being "mainstreamed" at all because I love World War II stuff.

Aradesh does mention someone called Dharma, you're right. In real life there's no actual person named Dharma, Dharma is a philosophy taught by Buddha that is used by Buddhists, Hinduists, and apparently Jainists. I believe this is because Aradesh possibly read about Dharma and thought it was talking about a person, not an idea. That, or he thought Buddha was named Dharma. It could simply be him misinterpreting what he was reading.

Think of it like Saint Monica's Church in FO3. The real Saint Monica and FO3's Saint Monica have many similarities, such as both of them were sold into slavery and their sons became slave masters, with the sons being forgiven by their mothers (in real life, Saint Monica's son became a saint himself), but there are differences. For example, the real Saint Monica had a relatively normal upbringing. In FO3, Saint Monica was a human woman that was birthed by a ghoul mother and a ghoul father. Little misinterpretations or addons like that are probably what made Aradesh think Dharma was a person and not an idea.

I like WW2 (I love studying the sadly forgotten Eastern Front, due to my nationality and an interest in the bloodiest, biggest and some of the most important battles during the war) but I like originality better.

Possibly, or maybe there was a prophet that named himself Dharma and traveled the wasteland, teaching the laws? It's a nice little explanation that explains why he would refer to him as a person. I kind of get the feeling he died from radscorpions before he spread the word further.

Possibly.

 

[Ragemage]

I like WW2 (I love studying the sadly forgotten Eastern Front, due to my nationality and an interest in the bloodiest, biggest and some of the most important battles during the war) but I like originality better.

Possibly, or maybe there was a prophet that named himself Dharma and traveled the wasteland, teaching the laws? It's a nice little explanation that explains why he would refer to him as a person. I kind of get the feeling he died from radscorpions before he spread the word further.

Possibly.

It's possible. I guess we'll never really know for sure now, those days are long over. Or it could just be that, in order to avoid getting the game banned in Asian countries for misrepresenting their religion, they simply renamed Buddha Dharma for the sake of the game. Fairly certain that back in the 80s a lot of Asian countries, at least on the higher levels of government, wouldn't tolerate misrepresenting Buddha or Buddhism, so they probably did it for that reason. Then again, they didn't change Brahmin to cows, which offended a lot of Hinduists and got the whole series banned in India, so I could be completely wrong.

 

[Dr Fallout]

It's possible. I guess we'll never really know for sure now, those days are long over. Or it could just be that, in order to avoid getting the game banned in Asian countries for misrepresenting their religion, they simply renamed Buddha Dharma for the sake of the game. Fairly certain that back in the 80s a lot of Asian countries, at least on the higher levels of government, wouldn't tolerate misrepresenting Buddha or Buddhism, so they probably did it for that reason. Then again, they didn't change Brahmin to cows, which offended a lot of Hinduists and got the whole series banned in India, so I could be completely wrong.

Yeah I think that Dharma was meant to be some guy walking around, because it implies they talked to him directly. If they're fine with Brahmin, they're fine with Buddha.

 

[Ragemage]

Yeah I think that Dharma was meant to be some guy walking around, because it implies they talked to him directly. If they're fine with Brahmin, they're fine with Buddha.

It could have been someone like Caesar, who read a bunch of history books and came to the conclusion that this was the way of the future. So this man, Dharma, probably picked up a book of Indian (as in the country) religious laws, found out about Dharma, renamed himself after it, and began spreading the teachings of Dharma and possibly some form of Hinduism (due to Aradesh and his ilk being polytheistic) across that area of the wastes. I would say that, given Aradesh's polytheism, it was probably the Hinduistic form of Dharma that this man taught.

 

[Dr Fallout]

It could have been someone like Caesar, who read a bunch of history books and came to the conclusion that this was the way of the future. So this man, Dharma, probably picked up a book of Indian (as in the country) religious laws, found out about Dharma, renamed himself after it, and began spreading the teachings of Dharma and possibly some form of Hinduism (due to Aradesh and his ilk being polytheistic) across that area of the wastes. I would say that, given Aradesh's polytheism, it was probably the Hinduistic form of Dharma that this man taught.

Agreed, though then again... he may only know the Dharma, and he mixed that and whatever Aradesh worshiped. Stranger mixes have happened (Mormon/Tribal mix in Honest Hearts).

 

[Ragemage]

Agreed, though then again... he may only know the Dharma, and he mixed that and whatever Aradesh worshiped. Stranger mixes have happened (Mormon/Tribal mix in Honest Hearts).

That's also a strong possibility. Too bad we really only get 3 lines from Aradesh even discussing it, and then it's never mentioned again. Learning about post-war religions is fun, I wanted to know more!

 

[Dr Fallout]

That's also a strong possibility. Too bad we really only get 3 lines from Aradesh even discussing it, and then it's never mentioned again. Learning about post-war religions is fun, I wanted to know more!

Same here. I really like learning about religion and fictional lore.

 

[Juza The Cloud]

Orthodox. Not reform or conservative, but ethnic Jews who require a familial connection to be accepted. Remember that very few people survived the war. It's a statistical miracle, but you may be right. The Mormons got Vault 70, so maybe an orthodox Jewish community commissioned their own vault.

Where are you pulling this out of only othrodox, says who?

 

[The-Artist-64]

Please. No one here could match my knowledge on 20th century history.

Vault 15 was packed wth a bunch of people from radically diverse religions and races. I'm assuming that Aradesh sort of served as a leader or spokesman for the Indian/Hindu sect of the vault.

Apparently, televaginalism was alive and well before the war if we count the Calculator's evangelist brain in Fallout Tactics.

 

[The-Artist-64]

Where are you pulling this out of only othrodox, says who?

Orthodox is one of the strictest forms of Judaism. I was explaining that the hypothetical post-apocalyptic Jewish community wouldn't be hardline unless they were Orthodox Jews.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Please. No one here could match my knowledge on 20th century history.

Vault 15 was packed wth a bunch of people from radically diverse religions and races. I'm assuming that Aradesh sort of served as a leader or spokesman for the Indian/Hindu sect of the vault.

Apparently, televaginalism was alive and well before the war if we count the Calculator's evangelist brain in Fallout Tactics.

Sure, coming from the guy that forgot the various moves done by the Americans and Soviets that in your view would translate into straight out war (remember that? ).

Anyway... (sorry for that, I just had to) I agree, however I think Shady Sands isn't as simple as that. Aradesh seems to be one of the few 'Indian' groups in Shady Sands, as Seth is a very Anglo-American name, Razlo sounds very Spanish and there isn't much of a Indian culture vibe.