Pull those pants up!

[MrMarcus]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/09/low.pants.ap/index.html

RICHMOND, Virginia (AP) -- Virginians who wear their pants so low their underwear shows may want to think about investing in a stronger belt.

The state's House of Delegates passed a bill Tuesday authorizing a $50 fine for anyone who displays his or her underpants in a "lewd or indecent manner."

Del. Lionell Spruill Sr., a Democrat who opposed the bill, had pleaded with his colleagues to remember their own youthful fashion follies.

During an extended monologue Monday, he talked about how they dressed or wore their hair in their teens. On Tuesday, he said the measure was an unconstitutional attack on young blacks that would force parents to take off work to accompany their children to court just for making a fashion statement.

"This is a foolish bill, Mr. Speaker, because it will hurt so many," Spruill said before the measure was approved 60-34. It now goes to the state Senate.

The bill's sponsor, Del. Algie T. Howell, has said constituents were offended by the exposed underwear. He did not speak on the floor Tuesday.

Spruill and Howell, also a Democrat, are both black.

Yes, exposed underwear is the bane of America. I wish they lived in my district so I could not vote for them.

 

[Silencer]

They're missing the point. Instead, they should pass a law prohibiting overweight chicks from displaying their fat buttocks in public.

 

[Josan]

And from wearing spandex

As for the bill... well, I think someone was listening to Leary's "Lock and Load" CD

 

[welsh]

Shocking I say! Shocking-

These kids walking around with their underwear hanging out! I don't care what your boxers look like?

Hey! My undies have glow in the dark lighting bolts over my .... ahum..... but I don't show them off! Another glow in the dark says "EAT ME!" But should I be allowed to advertise!

Free Speech!

I may not like what you say, but I will fight to death for your right to say it on your ass!

Honestly, I think these guys look silly but is this worth a law? Or does a Republican state assembly just have not enough to do.

Remember-
Crack Kills

also -
http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1850190

http://slate.msn.com/id/2089623

alas, perhaps we should remember-

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[The Commissar]

I am offended by Georgians and Stupidity. Can we make a law against those?

 

[Ratty Sr.]

This is outrageous! Those poor, oppressed Virginians must now spend their life savings on new pants and belts! They will be economically devastated just because the corrupt government relented before pressure of the greedy belt lobby!

I propose we start a "Buy Malky a belt"-fund.

 

[victor]

Malky lives in Virgin(ia)? Wow. What you don't know...

 

[welsh]

Scary part- so do I. But Malk lives on the other side of the mountain where things are less civilized- George Bush country.

Oh, but let's not forget that they were plotting this in Louisanna too.

You Europeans, you don't know. Guys wearing pants and shorts that barely go over their hips.

It's a fashion crisis.

 

[bob_the_rambler]

How exactly is sagging your pants off your ass a "freedom of speech"? I know we have the right to hold to and lobby unpopular beliefs, but as we live in "society" there is a certain amount of conforming that needs to be done in order to have order and peace. I agree that sagging should be sited as indecent exposure.
I dont want to see your ass and we have laws that say i shouldnt have to.

 

[Wooz]

Whaddayasay, Welsh?

The baggy-pant-underwear-display style rages in Europe, has been doing so since around 1993. But it's like, so last week.

Meh, people should dress however they want. This bill is yet another symptom of Politically-Correct Totalitarianism, a Brand New American fashion crisis indeed. Fatso fifty year old suburban housewives dictating their Lumpy Lycra theories on what's offensive and what's not. Fuck'em.

 

[welsh]

Wooz, Yo-

I mean like
Yo

Yuz Euro gangstas been stealin it away from the brothas for, like, yo, years and shit.

Yo. Like yuz all like Derivative and shit. Got no Im-ag-in-a-tion.

Likes you need a hood to be cool, but you got none so yuz got to steal it from the niggas.


Like, yuz want to be like a pimp daddy, but yuz can't cauz you ain't no nigga.

Is why yuz stealin it from the ghet-to, yo.

(Welsh struggles to overcome being a 30-something white dude.... fails miserably).

Let's see the last famous Polish pimp daddy was?

Ok, consider Tupac's picture above- a guy with pants too large revealing his boxer shorts, packing a gun and giving the finger to authority---- this is expressive speech.

Would people be pissed if girls were wearing their bras and panties in public- I doubt it.

I am so there.

or

Yet this is not

- it's a matter of taste.

This thing seems targetted at blacks- yet the "hip hop" look is part of the "hip hop" culture. I may think it looks silly, and most of it is derivative of the "gangsta" perhaps, but it is expressive.

Back to Tupac-
A guy wearing pants to big- means he's hungry, means he's living on throw-aways and hand outs- speaks to the question of poverty and underclass. The gun - willingness to break the "law" to survive in a more anarchical society of black underclass. The finger-his contempt for authority = "white culture."

Personally I think the whole hip-hop thing is old now, and the original messages, the expressiveness of the style, is probably dead. But does that mean these kids can't wear their clothes because grandma is "offended."

Free speech means- you get offended.

You want to arrest someone for showing off there balls, their ass, they genitals- ok. But this is silly.

But this-

I beg to differ.

 

[bob_the_rambler]

Whaddayasay, Welsh?

The baggy-pant-underwear-display style rages in Europe, has been doing so since around 1993. But it's like, so last week.

Meh, people should dress however they want. This bill is yet another symptom of Politically-Correct Totalitarianism, a Brand New American fashion crisis indeed. Fatso fifty year old suburban housewives dictating their Lumpy Lycra theories on what's offensive and what's not. Fuck'em.

People should dress how they want? what if i wanted to dress in the nude? what if i wanted to walk around town with my penis hanging out of the front of my pants? is that ok? NO

Say you are a parent and your walking with your three year old, and you see a man walking down the street naked; any person with any moral sense at all would cover their childrens eyes.

People with no morals no basic sense dont belong in society, i see a break down in the human condition we are moving in reverse towards the dark ages. This is more and more evident when honest hard working people that speak up,are shot down by the "free speech" junkies, the ganster child molester wanna-be. Its my freedom of speech to lobby for a law that conflicts with your freedom of speech, the side that wins is the right side. isnt that how democracy works?

 

[welsh]

Indeed Bob- That's why I think all children, below the age of 5 caught naked in public places- like parks and lakes or rivers, should be immediately arrested and sent to camps in Nebraska where they can be educated in proper Christian Republican Conservative decency.

And that goes for breast feeders too, damn it. Because every time I see a woman breast feeding a woman, I think back to those good old days of suckling the nip, and damn it I want more!

Yes, sir. Let's roll back the dark ages!
And no more nudes in art galleries either damn it!

They make me so horny. Remind me of being back in the 'Nam with those girls in those hot pants saying, "Hey Joe, you number one, I love you long time!"

Actually, you know what, no more bikinis either, or tight jeans on girls. Because tight jeans on girls, man they show off those asses and I just want to butter those muffins.

And let's get rid of underwear displays at Victoria Secrets too- because them bitches are hot and when I see them I just want rip those panties off and stick it to them, ya know....

Decency. I don't want my wife going out there and getting whistled. What she needs is something non descript, something that doesn't show off her curves. Something like and environmental suit, or a big bubble. Or a burkha. So what if she doesn't like it. This woman's right shit has got to go too.

I mean really, we really know what woman's rights are - free your body, free your mind = more fuckin.

That's not good for a society of honest hard working good moral people.

Those Amish, man, they know what they're doing.

As usual, these issues come down to boundary conditions. The current law says that our fashion should be PG rated. But showing off a bit of boxer shorts does not equal waving around your genitals.

 

[Wooz]

Bob, I'd like you to stop thinking like a moron for just the fraction of a second before you reply to my posts.

Say you are a parent and your walking with your three year old, and you see a man walking down the street naked; any person with any moral sense at all would cover their childrens eyes.

You dipshit, I didn't mention walking around naked, I stated people should dress however they like. Having a bit of boxer-shorts showing isn't equal to being completely naked.

People with no morals no basic sense dont belong in society

Hey, boxer-shorts are the basic reference to people's stance towards society. So, wearing baggy pants is a capital offence to society and God. So is difference in any public display, expression or whatever thing that could offend ANYONE. So people who choose to dress, live, love, eat in a way that might be offensive to anyone, should be ostracized, and if possible, sent to camps.

Great reasoning, Goebbels Junior.

i see a break down in the human condition we are moving in reverse towards the dark ages

Say, wen I read your posts, I feel the same.

This is more and more evident when honest hard working people that speak up,are shot down by the "free speech" junkies.

See above.

Its my freedom of speech to lobby for a law that conflicts with your freedom of speech, the side that wins is the right side. isnt that how democracy works?

Before you lobby a bullshit law, you'd better have better arguments to back it up.

 

[bob_the_rambler]

Welsh the target here isn't children, art, breast feeding.
the targets are assholes who think of sagging as free speech, is living on a general plane of decency so hard?

And wooz, i read your post and you said that people should be able to dress as they want to, and that is quite an open statement......i may have gone a litte far on pointing that out.

the decline in humanity, is ignoring basic laws of public decency.

it makes me sad to see that people have forgotten the basic dressing skills they should have learned before kindergarden.

 

[welsh]

Wooz, don't be so hard on Bob.

Bob is typical of most americans- the government spoon feeds them crap about the decay of society due to the behavior of minorities- (they might be blacks, queers, which are still smaller than catholics and jews which are the next target of discrimination).

And these kids just eat it up. Because they don't know better.

After all, being a good moral conservative is like being a good Christian, and being a good Christian is being close to God, and God wouldn't fuck ya up, would he?

I mean considering the quality of american education, do you expect people to actually think for themselves?

Really, dude, get real. No, these kids go home and watch their MTV (where they get their fashion sense) and watch cable tv, and that's fine because they are not supposed to get homework which interrupts their "relaxation time."

And that the cable channels that show the MTV also show the Porn which offends the very republican leaders that those cable channels buy, illustrates how morally fucked up the US is becoming.

Which brings us back to the issue of fashion. I mean, gosh, at least the gangsta's have a style that says something.

(Ok, so I am feeling a bit bitter today. Menstrual cramps got me down).

 

[bob_the_rambler]

Typical American...your right.........spoon fed propaganda i was, but i left public schools for that very reason. To me its as simple as i dont want to see your underwear so i shouldnt have to.

 

[Lukus]

Ehehehe, well made points, welsh! I totally agree; boxers is just like any other type of clothing, made out of the same materials. As long as they're doing their job and concealing the family jewels packed within, I don't see any problem with wearing them in a visible manner, especially since the fashion is to only show like an inch of them anyway.

As for hot girls showing g-string behinds, that should be endorsed with governmental fundings.

Malk lives on the other side of the mountain

That sounded like, totally hillbilly though.

Like, yuz want to be like a pimp daddy, but yuz can't cauz you ain't no nigga.

Ok, I hereby decalre all Virginians as official closet-hillbillys who think they are black.

EDIT:

To me its as simple as i dont want to see your underwear so i shouldnt have to.

You're right, you shouldn't have to! No one should force you to go outside in the natural light and encounter people.

 

[welsh]

Interestingly enough, Malkyland does have this rather bizarre hillbilly/gangsta rap going on.

This is the problem with sub-cultures- they tend to blend and shape society in new, and often perverse ways.

Bob- I apologize. I am busting on you too hard. I still love ya, Yo's my nigga.

That said, I also believe in the free expression of topless bathing.

 

[Malky]

Interestingly enough, Malkyland does have this rather bizarre hillbilly/gangsta rap going on.

Heh. It's true.

Anywho, this is just plain silly. It's kind of sad that the House of Delegates doesn't have anything better to discuss than how low some 15 year old wannabe thug wears his South Pole jeans.

They also recently passed a bill banning gay marriage, by the way.

Ridiculous.

Also, Bob the Rambler is clearly an unedumacated fascist. Ban plz.