Rate the above song and post your own.

AtomKilla said:
To me, that sounds as if you'd judge a painting solely on the technique used to paint it, or the film on the quality of camera shots.
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No, it's judging a painting on how beautiful it is, or a film based on it's story/cinematography etc.

Sure there are other factors, but how exactly is the music itself not by far the most important factor?
 
Akratus said:
Sure there are other factors, but how exactly is the music itself not by far the most important factor?
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It is certainly an important factor, but not necessarily the most important.

Music can be a vessel for a lots of stuff - to carry ideas onward, to start a movement, to represent an opinion, to bring out certain emotions, to create a subculture etc. I don't want to sound overly banal here. You get the picture.

Music itself, as in notes, melodies, rhythm and what not are at the base of it all, but basis alone doesn't make the building.


Do you really view music solely by how well it sounds and how well it is constructed?
Or do you look at a "bigger picture"?
 
Akratus said:
But music isn't about the lifestyle it represents. You could say that blues is mostly about the old work a day life, but how does that change the song if applied to it? I don't like Red House because it talks about some mama staying in some red house. I like it because the sounds are very well put together. Besides, it's blues played with an electric guitar and you don't hear that every day. At least I don't. So the song IS special to me, because it has a great structure and flow to it's sound.
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Blues was born from african plantation workers trying to find a way to express their sorrow, misfortune and everyday life. Started out as field howlers and then began to incorporate musical instruments such as the banjo, because the owners of the plantations were scared that a mutiny would errupt from drum music. It is a strange music in that it is sad, yet happy, because you feel better when you convey your emotions in a format of a song. So the standart form of blues is definetly about the singer trying to convey the burdens of his life.

Now then, do i think that all music is about the life os the performer - hell no! Say, Stravinsky thought of music as pure music, it didn't represent anything to him, Wagner thought the opposite and wanted to incorporate various art aspects into it, so you can make a bluesy song that is not about the blues, but the song we are discussing is definetly a standart 12 bar blues about the blues (pun intended) :) . But that doesn't mean you cannot listen to it for other purposes - i have not said that and again, i didn't claim that is was bad! I said it is a nice song and i like it, i like it for a 7/10 (that's 70 % out of a hundred), which is a good score, because, for example, the HH tracks that i post in my scale don't go beyond 7/10 either, but i definetly like them. I'm not saying that this song cannot be special for you, the "special" comment was not about putting down the song (for some reason you're reading devious intent in my text for the second time :lol: , something which is not there).

Come to think of it, scoring is a bad idea and the whole idea of posting music where people only want to show of the music that they like and can only glance at something the other poster posted - is even worse, because often to know music is also to know the story behind it and even after that, for some music you have to develop a taste, or else it is too complicated for the untamed ears . But i'm going to continue anyway, because it's bad habbit of mine :twisted:

P.S Blues has tons of electric guitars, the amplifier might be different and that's probably what you were referring to.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pi5ZJZ07ME[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xx-rawGfn8[/youtube]

A composition by coltrane for which he got inspiration when he nearly overdosed from drugs and after that revelation (which he didn't talk much about) he kicked the drug habbit and devoted his playing mostly to god. These are the first and second part of the 4 part album. The composition has a two fold interest, as it's not only an "emotional" piece, but also has very interesting and difficult musical ideas in it. It is composed much like a prayer in that it dwells on a few praises, repeating them in different dynamic and rhythms. Coltrane died from cancer 3 years after this.
 
Atomkilla said:
Akratus said:
Sure there are other factors, but how exactly is the music itself not by far the most important factor?
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It is certainly an important factor, but not necessarily the most important.

Music can be a vessel for a lots of stuff - to carry ideas onward, to start a movement, to represent an opinion, to bring out certain emotions, to create a subculture etc. I don't want to sound overly banal here. You get the picture.

Music itself, as in notes, melodies, rhythm and what not are at the base of it all, but basis alone doesn't make the building.


Do you really view music solely by how well it sounds and how well it is constructed?
Or do you look at a "bigger picture"?
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I look at a bigger picture but that does not change the song. A song is a song whether someone put his heart into it or not, and whether it represents a bigger picture or not.

I mean, are you a big fan of David Hasselhof's "I've been looking for freedom." since it is meant to portray the struggle of germany's once divided populace and was played at the berlin wall?

John Coltrane: 8/10

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT7pVK5q8tk[/youtube]
 
Akratus said:
I mean, are you a big fan of David Hasselhof's "I've been looking for freedom." since it is meant to portray the struggle of germany's once divided populace and was played at the berlin wall?
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I don't know that particular song, but yes, there've been instances where I'd like a certain song due to an event it is associated with, rather than its actual quality. It is usually an event I'd personally witness, but I don't want to derail the thread any longer, nor do I want to see either one of use keeping up with the trivialization, so I say we agree to disagree and be done with it.

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As for actual music, I skip the Blink 182 crap and go to this:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx_4GRoLJko[/youtube]
 
Minimal has potential if done right (can count on fingers the times that happened), but this is a pretty sloppy acid trip barely 5/10.

The most competent and interesting stuff came out of Detroit, mainly from the UR crew like Mad Mike, Drexcya (R.I.P) etc. Those guys at least had a vision, unlike most electronic artists.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V8lW6jMpUo[/youtube]
 
6/10

I don't know how you guys, with that kind of taste, can't be extremely fond of kelly bailey.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enW5OeN_LDg[/youtube]

Now that's vision.

He left Valve some time ago. That was a sad day.
 
I actually quite like the fact that they use a physical drumset, but to each their own of course.

Your song is very creative, I love the variety of sounds in there. But is a frantic type of song that I can't (or haven't yet been able to) get into. Similar to my reaction to other songs of the technological variety you and others have posted here before. Which are apparantly all from toronto. :P

7/10

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUiwF8yok_c[/youtube]
 
6/10 ~ Not bad, the gritty stabs are pretty nice. Used to listen to some drum n base myself. Troll, you should check out some atmospheric drum n base like:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O89eKVgPKA0[/youtube]

Akratus said:
I actually quite like the fact that they use a physical drumset, but to each their own of course.

Your song is very creative, I love the variety of sounds in there. But is a frantic type of song that I can't (or haven't yet been able to) get into. Similar to my reaction to other songs of the technological variety you and others have posted here before. Which are apparantly all from toronto. :P
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Thanks. Yeah, still trying to tame that beast synthesizer known as Kaleidon. The things you can do with it are limitless. This was a kind of experiment, my future compositions will be more polished, until then i'm polishing my harmonic language. And no, Drexcia is not from torronto, if you were referring to him.

As for my post:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV4dGQQpAD4[/youtube]

The softest fingers in Jazz and probably the most sampled fingers in Jazz :)
 
I'm not much of a jazz aficionado, but that was both enjoyable and smooth as hell: 8/10

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thought you died

oops here:

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FalloutTroll said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABTcGPBP8-E

I love these type of songs :S
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stop ignoring posts

Atomkilla said:
Gotta love that. 7.5/10

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=109m0zeAb7o&app=desktop[/youtube]
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Nice video. But the music wasn't exactly my style, a bit too bare bones.

4/10 for the music, 7/10 for the video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlv29sljPLQ[/youtube]
 
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