References to Tactics

[Confalone]

Well to me when I think "high level" events I think Gammorin (that was his name right?) the super mutant boss and the Calculator.

 

[Ausir]

What exactly are those? Just the end or what? Because the BOS in Tactics are the "knights of the wasteland" like in Fallout 3.

Actually, they aren't. The Midwestern Brotherhood was setting up a fascist semi-state. They were definitely less one-dimensional than Lyons' Brotherhood in FO3.

I suspect the high level events cited is simply that there is a BOS faction operating in the Chicago area operating on its own and it recruits outsiders.

The remnants of the Master's Army going into that area, some of the Brotherhood pursuing them and eventually setting up a splinter faction around Chicago that is considered rogue by the rest of the Brotherhood is what is known to be considered canon for now.

The exact canon status of the rest of the events (particularly Vault 0 and the Calculator) is unknown. My guess is that they're in the fuzzy area - not to be directly contradicted, but not to be referenced either.

 

[MisterBibs]

I wonder if they mentioned the Midwest BoS because Bethesda wanted to hint that every BoS group that has left the west coast has eventually earned the ire of Lost Hills.

Bit of a BoS Civil War in the next Fallout game: the Rouge Brotherhood versus the Original Brotherhood. Player has to decide how the war plays out. Good players aid the Rogue Brotherhood, evil players aid the Original Brotherhood.

 

[Subuki]

Elder Lyons(The leader of the D.C faction) also states that the original West Coast BoS aren't on good terms with them either. As instead of falling back from the area and returning to the west coast, they took a personal liking to the area and it's people.

 

[Ausir]

Bit of a BoS Civil War in the next Fallout game: the Rouge Brotherhood versus the Original Brotherhood. Player has to decide how the war plays out. Good players aid the Rogue Brotherhood, evil players aid the Original Brotherhood.

The fascist rule of the Midwestern BOS wasn't exactly a "good" one.

 

[Tagaziel]

While Bethesda initially said they will consider both Fallout Tactics and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel as non-canon, looks like they changed their mind and eventually decided to consider the story of Fallout Tactics more or less canon where it does not contradict previous Fallouts (the inconsistent parts are non-canon).

There is at least one reference to the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel from Tactics. Scribe Rothchild says: "There's also a small detachment in Chicago, but they're off the radar. Gone rogue. Long story."

It's a small nod to Tactics. Definitely not confirmation of any sort.

 

[Ausir]

It's a small nod to Tactics. Definitely not confirmation of any sort.

As I said earlier in this thread, I asked Emil.

 

[MisterBibs]

The fascist rule of the Midwestern BOS wasn't exactly a "good" one.

Truth be told, I haven't played Tactics in forever (it long reached the "Old Game I Try Playing But Can't Cope With How Old It Looks" level).

Still, wouldn't be too hard to make it work. A few lines implying that Lyon's Brotherhood met up / civilized the Midwestern ones, forming the New Brotherhood (or something), which stressed ideals that Lost Hills didn't accept. Good Player aids the NBoS (and gets a "with the NBOS's guidance, a lot of good stuff happens" ending), Evil Players aid the OBoS (and gets the "Remember the ending you got in Mortal Kombat 1 if you played as Tsung? That, plus Power armor and guns" ending.)

 

[Ausir]

Or Beth could make it a good-neutral-evil choice. Good Capital Wasteland BoS - protectors of the innocents, neutral Lost Hills BoS/Outcasts - technology hoarders, evil Midwestern BoS - repressive technofascists.

 

[Dragula]

Or Beth could make it a good-neutral-evil choice. Good Capital Wasteland BoS - protectors of the innocents, neutral Lost Hills BoS/Outcasts - technology hoarders, evil Midwestern BoS - repressive technofascists.

How utterly american considering other type of governments "evil". Die evil monarchy!!111 Seriously, the karma system is retarded because everything is subjective. Maybe not blasting an innocent to parts, but you get where I'm going with this.