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>You can not use tankses in
>mountain areas like that it
>is to much stones and
>valleys around. So you will
>have to use the roads
>and guess who will be
>sitting on the side of
>the road with a big
>bazooka and some molotov coctails?
>Take out the first and
>the last tankses and the
>otherones can not get away.

We're talking M1A2 Abrams tanks, not crummy WWII tanks. These tanks are designed to be "capable of engaging the enemy in any weather, day or night on the multi-dimensional, non-linear battlefield using its firepower, manuever, and shock effect" (sorry, I couldn't put it in any better terms than what was written on a website.

Weighing in at over SIXTY NINE tons, these tanks are remarkably agile. With a governed speed of over forty miles per hour, these monsters are capable of meeting and destroying their targets quickly and effectively.

The tanks are armored with steel-encased depleted uranium 2.5 times the desity of steel, and designed to blow outward in the case of shell penetrating. The crew of the tanks are nuclear, biological, and chemical protected, and all crew members have protective suits they can also wear.

Abrams tanks also take advantage of communication systems to enhance their lethality. By coordinating their attacks with the aid of satellite, air, and other tank information resources, the tank commanders can operate their tanks in coordination with other tanks like a pack of wolves.

Furthermore, Abrams tanks have extremely versatile target acquisition systems that take advantage of such systems as infrared, night vision, turret stabilization and other devices.

Of the over 1800 Abrams tanks sent to Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Storm, only 18 suffered service-halting damage, of which nine were in repairable condition. Not a Abrams crewman died. Iraq had quite a few modern Soviet tanks as well as many older models.

I think they will be quite effective.

>Use plains to kill the
>enemies yes? These people do
>not use tankses or other
>stuff wich you can blow
>away with a missile from
>a plain. They walk you
>know. Offcourse you can afford
>to fire missiles at people
>just to kill a few
>men but that will be
>expensive.

That's why we will probably work with the rebels. They know the land and would certainly appreciate some of the extra firepower we can provide.

>There is wery many cawes in
>these mountains that they can
>hide inn safe from cruise
>missiles and artillery.

And gee, they can't do much from in there can they? It'll keep them relatively dormant.

>Just so you people know: Tankses
>are not a close combat
>weapon and they can be
>wery easily deactivated by mines
>or molotov coctails.

Mines maybe, but molotov cocktails are not effective against our tanks.

>As for those soldiers that get
>captured by the soldiers in
>the afghanian army they have
>never heard of the Geneve
>konvesjon down there.

IF they're captured.

>I just fail to see how
>they are going to kill
>of the taliban infantry when
>the infantry is hiding in
>the mountain.

We're not going there to root out desert raiders. If anything we'll back the rebels or other groups that want to take over the area. That is always safer because we won't need to install a new government if the current one is defeated. However I really don't think our goal is to oust the Taliban. We'll instead take out some of the major headquarters of known terrorist groups, and assist other groups in helping to take out the straglers.

-Xotor-

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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-01 AT 11:29AM (GMT)[p]A molotov coctail is a micsture of oil and gasolin in a bottle. when this kind of micsture hit a tank the temperature in the micsture hit, the gasoline and oil rises to such a heigt that they can melt trough steel. The smoke from a molotov coctail can easely cloud any infrared instruments and any cameras there might be on any tank.
Also how does speed help a tank that is driving in a convoi? They would run into eachother. The rebels can probably close the road in front and behind the tankses. Afghanistan is a mountain area so the tankses ca not drive wherever they want to they would be restricted to roads and guess who will be sitting on the side of the road?

<<And gee, they can't do much from in there can they? It'll keep them relatively dormant

They get down in the holes, the bombs fall, they get upp and continue killing. Remember vietnam?

Also i doubt their protective suits will help much when the rebels got them.
 
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>AT 11:29 AM (GMT)
>
>A molotov coctail is a micsture
>of oil and gasolin in
>a bottle. when this kind
>of micsture hit a tank
>the temperature in the micsture
>hit, the gasoline and oil
>rises to such a heigt
>that they can melt trough
>steel.

Unless the molotov cocktail is full of napalm an in high concentrations in one spot, the chances of that happening are practically nil. Abrams tanks are designed to be highly nuclear, weather, and chemical resistant. The chances that someone with a molotov cocktail getting close enough to hit the fast-moving tank are very slim also.

The smoke from a
>molotov coctail can easely cloud
>any infrared instruments and any
>cameras there might be on
>any tank.

The Abrams tanks were able to easily distinguish other tanks through the oil fires of Kuwait. Unless that cocktail lands directly in front of or on the sensor, they will probably not be a problem.

>Also how does speed help a
>tank that is driving in
>a convoi? They would run
>into eachother.

For your information, the only time tanks are in convoys is if they're in safe *known* territories. In any other situation, they will be far spread out.

The chances that these tanks would not be assisted by both aerial and satellite during transport is also very slim.

>The rebels can
>probably close the road in
>front and behind the tankses.

Cute, but no deal. These aren't old WWII tanks, and they certainly don't travel in neat concise lines to get to their destinations. The area around the travelling tanks would be very well scouted, and when they do go to engage in combat, they spread out and hunt around in packs, sharing information between themselves and other sources like satellites and jets.

>Afghanistan is a mountain area
>so the tankses ca not
>drive wherever they want to
>they would be restricted to
>roads and guess who will
>be sitting on the side
>of the road?

What? You think these babies are confined to the roads? I'd think that land-mines would be more of a threat than a bunch of little groups of people hiding in the mountains.

>They get down in the holes,
>the bombs fall, they get
>upp and continue killing. Remember
>vietnam?

Remember the Vietnamese had an entire jungle to cover them up. What are you going to do in a cave, and why would we bother bombing scattered groups in the mountains?

>Also i doubt their protective suits
>will help much when the
>rebels got them.

Well you ring me up when, or should I say *if*, they make it through 69 tons worth of steel-encased depleted uranium armor.

-Xotor-

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>Cute, but no deal. These
>aren't old WWII tanks, and
>they certainly don't travel in
>neat concise lines to get
>to their destinations. The
>area around the travelling tanks
>would be very well scouted,
>and when they do go
>to engage in combat, they
>spread out and hunt around
>in packs, sharing information between
>themselves and other sources like
>satellites and jets.

I Must ask you what do you know off mountain areas? What experience do you have? Myself i live in Norway wich is a mountain country and I know that tankses are no god. Hunt in packs? not going to happen. Mountain areas like those in afghanistan are hills and rocks arraoyos and tankses can not drive around in areas like that. Wery well scouted offcourse but sattelites cant see trough mountains and into those caves that are there.

>What? You think these babies
>are confined to the roads?
> I'd think that land-mines
>would be more of a
>threat than a bunch of
>little groups of people hiding
>in the mountains.

I know they will be confined to roads since the terain in mountains can stop any tankses. I want hunting the other day looked around and saw that the areas that i went hunting in were imposibole for tankses.

>Well you ring me up when,
>or should I say *if*,
>they make it through 69
>tons worth of steel-encased depleted
>uranium armor.
A tank that stands still because it is stuck and cant get anywhere is a wery easy target. The rebbels can take their time breaking inn.
 
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