Saving Troika?

Wintermute

First time out of the vault
Hello everybody! I was wondering. Troika was working on a Fallout-Like game. They have a huge number of RPG-Fans behind them. Wouldn't it be possible to collect enough Money to enable Troika to work on at least one game? I mean, the mystary engine looked like working. How much money could they need? Maybe there are people that could do bit of work externaly for free. I mean there are hundreds of MOD-programmers. They would be proud to work on such a game.

Maybe this is just a stupid idea, but i keep dreaming...
 
Let me guess: you are not personally willing to set up the account, contribute, watch the money flow in (or not, as the case might be), then go and present it to a company that no longer exists?

Yeah, that is a stupid idea.

Moving to General Gaming in preparation for someone else vatting it.
 
I'm sure it is *possible* to collect enough to help the development of a new game. It may take a few million dollars, however, at least - but that money *could possibly* be rasied with enough supporters (will take time, however).

The real trick, is finding a publisher. For Troika to publish their *own* games, it would take a many times more for that effort (cost of manufacuting boxes, burning CDs, packaging and shrinkwraping and then getting distribution corners for many markets all over the world, plus all of the managment costs involved in overseeing that). Add those costs, and the goal of reaching the final amount needed may never be reached in any sort of reasonable time.

However, if Troika ever finds a publisher again (and, of course, start their stuido operations again), then they could probably find the funds to make the game anyways.

For Troika: very detailed and story-centric RPGs, original stories, or least somewhat original takes on an established asset someone else originally owned.

Against Troika: QA processes not effective enough (all of their games have been known to have a lot of bugs); sales of their games were decent, but not extraordinary... all of these are liabilities that publishers probably are seeing in Troika right now.
 
It's impossible, for a number of reasons. Even if we set aside tremendous practical obstacles in setting up a fund, collecting sufficient amount of money, *overseeing* the handling of said money and ensuring it is used for its intended purpose, there still exists an issue you seem to be unaware of - only an idiot would invest their hard-earned money in a company that has already gone bankrupt due to low competitiveness of its products. And from what I can tell the few Troika fans that exist aren't idiots.
 
Graz'zt said:
And from what I can tell the few Troika fans that exist aren't idiots.

Well thank you very much, Graz'zt. It's really nice of you to say a thing like that.

The idea is stupid, of course. As sad as it may be: Troika is gone. Accept it. :(
 
Off-topic:

Alec, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you being nice all of a sudden? You should have told me go fuck myself or something.
 
I bet he got a girlfriend and lost his virginity. I bet she makes him shower regularly too.

*Braces for a quick and painfull death*
 
Graz'zt said:
Alec, what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you being nice all of a sudden? You should have told me go fuck myself or something.

Well... you see... I've been informed by... people... yes, certain people... powerfull people here at NMA... I won't tell names, though... but they informed me... via PM and stuff... you know... that I have to behave or I'll get banned... I'll get my arse kicked out... hey... seriously... apparently I've gotten two strikes already... two... one more and I'm gone... so they said to me, they said: "Alec, you have to behave'... they said: "We know you're a pessimist and we know you're a sarcastic piece of shit, but we, the people with power here at NMA, will not accept that behaviour any longer'... so I got scared... I was like 'OMFG! They're serious about this! My favourite fora on the internet are turning against me! They want my arse and they want it bad!'... they hate me... hate hate hate... and so I did some yoga and drank some milk and meditated and I thought: 'Fuck that shit, man. If they hate good old alec so much, I'll just fake the shit and teach them a lesson. I'll be nice to everyone. I'll say 'Yes, yes, yes, Kharny boy, you're so friggin' clever!' and I'll say 'Oh by Jove, Welsh, du bisst so fucking smart and well-read and shit it totally freaks me out' and 'Oh, Silencer, my man, how is it going, let me give you a kiss on your Polish arse for alec is love love love'... it seemed like a good plan... but I have to admit: it was doomed from the beginning... it's hard, you know... wearing a mask 24/24... faking politeness... all that happy happy happy joy joy joy crapola you kids love so much... 'What do you think about my mod?'... replying 'Oh, it looks really promising!' while I just want to say: 'I hope you die of lung cancer you fucking amateur!'... can't... shouldn't... mustn't... be nice to the people... yes yes yes... no... must fight... anyway... blame the big ones, eh... don't go ape shit one me, saying: 'Oh, alec, what's wrong, why are you so fucking nice and shit, that's like so weird and stuff'... it's not my fault... they've forced me... they... I can't say their names because they're watching my every move... they know... got to behave... fuck you all... eat shit and choke on it, you piece of... piss piss piss... nice... yes, nice... good NMA... good moderators... nice Graz'zt... Graz'zt nice... hot too... mmmm... sexy Graz'zt... and fuck you Dirty Dream Dooder: my girlfriend and me have been together for 9 months already... she's moving in with me in November... I haven't been a virgin since I was 17, you piece of... sexy... nice... NMA... shit... so hey, don't look at me... I'll behave... I'll be nice... I was forced to say these things... read the thread, damn it... and I shower every goddamn morning... see: I wrote GOD... yeah, GOD... our Saviour... I'll believe in GOD if you want me to... GOD is good... GOD is nice... oh, and GOD exists... GOD is in the heavens above and GOD is looking out for all of us at the same friggin' time... makes no sense, but does exist... yes yes yes... trouble in mind, I'm blue... but I won't be blue always... 'cause GOD is there to help me, eh... yeah, fuck him... no... fuck me, eh... yeah, fuck me good... GOD GOD GOD... and about this sad fucked up planet: everything is alright... really... gas prices are going up, but that's nothing to worry about... there's plenty of oil left... really... enough to last another billion years... forget what I said about all of you dying in horrible ways in the next ten or fifteen years or so... 'cause it won't happen... GOD will make oil and give it to us... with his big hands... reaching out from the heavens above... with love... drive your cars... drive him... you're not polluting... you're just having fun... and fun is good... laziness breeds love... yes... just let me be... I'll try... okay... that's fine... everything is good... good... yes, good... good... and nice... fine...

:roll:
 
Murdoch said:
Man, I'm glad I'm not in charge of this forum! :shock:
Thanks for your sympathy.

The answer to the question at hand is simple: if you want this to happen, go do the work yourself. 'Gee, it would be wonderful if certain people could do this.'
Yes, that would be wonderful. So why aren't you doing anything? Donating money to Troika or Troika employees, setting up a donation account or action? It's not that hard, Paypal is easy. So unless you go do that, this topic probably has no reason to exist from now on. Meaning that it'll be vatted unless its existence will somehow be justified within, say, a day or so.
 
What?! If Alec's post doesn't alone warrant continuation of this thread, I don't know what does. Although it would have been better if he ended it with "I was cured, all right!"

EDIT: Oh, and Alec, does that mean that now we can call you a big silly doodoo-head, and you can't do anything about it? :mrgreen:
 
Stop spamming, DDD. I can split and then vat the split material, too.
 
Honestly, even if each registered person at nma was willing to donate $20 US (never gonna happen), it would not even be close to the amount needed to float that sunken ship of a company enough to create ONE game. Maybe if each person donated $1000...
 
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude said:
Maybe if each person donated $1000...
For $1000 I can buy two kickass video cards and connect them in SLI mode. Troika can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.
 
Sorry guys if you do what the topic starter is suggesting you end up with disasters such as Shadow Bane... Or Mourning (RealmsOFKorell)

And that just sucks ass... Been there, done that. It works once in a blue moon.
 
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