Scandinavia

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Scandinavia - Here you go Mortius.

Where did the Vikings live? How were they really in life, war, and trade? What was going on in Scandinavia during WWII, the Cold War, and today? Are the Scandinavian countries today truly socialist utopia or socialist dystopias? Do people from different Scandinavian countries get along? Where does Santa get his reindeer from? What is the culture like? What is the weather like?

Denmark - Do the great danes eat danish danishes while riding great danes?

Norway - Is Troll Hunter the greatest thing to come out of Norway?

Sweden - All the types of Nobel Prizes (and how they are selected). Is the Swedish Chef character considered offensive in Sweden? Anyone watch the TV show Welcome to Sweden? Is Ingmar Bergman overrated?

Finland - Does Finland count? Do the Finnish ever finish anything?


Iceland - Does Iceland count?


Greenland - If Iceland counts, why not Greenland?

 

[Mortius]

Where did the Vikings live? How were they really in life, war, and trade? What was going on in Scandinavia during WWII, the Cold War, and today? Are the Scandinavian countries today truly socialist utopia or socialist dystopias? Do people from different Scandinavian countries get along? Where does Santa get his reindeer from? What is the culture like? What is the weather like?

The Vikings lived in small villages in fjords with there shallow hull boats from Trondheim down to Denmark a part of Sweden was also vikingish. In north Norway it was mostly sammi people and "Viking fjords" and small feudal lords farms To come to the hall of Valhalla you need to die in honor (some cases where son killed their father).

The view of Vikings was really bleak one and harsh one, and everyone made sure to help their fellows. The cold and harsh winters was really the enemy. War was seldom although we wared agents the English in war of conquest's and civil war was also seldom, the where a lot of battels (like 200) not wars per say.

Most trade was internal, we were fierce warriors and sought after in lands as far as middle east. They brought enormous wealth to the Viking kingdoms. They rebuild Europe after the collapse of the roman empire. The Viking road was huge.

The truth of the WWII was that Nazis saved us from communism, Norway was defenseless against anything. The cold war was a huge boon for Norway since USA propped up Norway in a huge way and there was a huge western spy hub and eastern spy hub in Norway.

Socialism have destroyed our once great healthcare, i have to wait like 4 mounts fore a toe operation and the doctor must fill out 5 pages of NAV (wellfare deparment) documentation and on the different computers system. The nurses act like secretary's not as nurses, they have 4 persons doing desk work and 1 nurse doing work. 1\3 of our taxes goes direly to healthcare. The top of the healthcare system is political put by the departments of the prelimits, whom have never work a day in there life and do not know medicine. There is a huge scandal every year in healthcare and every advance in healthcare comes from America.

The people 80% in Norway was a total stop in immigration and sending out of the rapeist and extremist mullas\ imams. Instead we take inn more and more and paying taxes fore them to be here, it is fucking crazy. We do not live in a democracy some call it a democratur where not matter what we do the result is always the same. We have crazy leftist that stop a child rapist and wife killer to be send out of Norway on a airplane to South Sudan, and demand that we send spesal forces to Iraq to get ISIS brides back. It is like 0,5% of the population dictate what happens politically, and everyone cant stop them. The media has lost their minds and is trapped in a leftist's echo chamber, and see right wing Nazis everywhere including the in the left wing AP party.

In the north the culture is inclusive and warm, unless you piss off the older ladies in the villages. In the south the city's it is very different, like a proto DDR society. The weather is warmer then it used to be and we have a really hot summer and very long autumn and almost no winter at all. In my youth it was like 6 mounts of winter, 2 mounts of autumn summer, 2 mounts spring and 2 summer.

We have reindeer up in the north close to Finland not as glamorous as you think.

 

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Thanks, Mortius, for replying to this thread to give your perspective. You have renewed my faith in humankind. By the way, how is the whole landslide search / aftermath going in Norway.

Socialism have destroyed our once great healthcare, i have to wait like 4 mounts fore a toe operation and the doctor must fill out 5 pages of NAV (wellfare deparment) documentation and on the different computers system. The nurses act like secretary's not as nurses, they have 4 persons doing desk work and 1 nurse doing work. 1\3 of our taxes goes direly to healthcare. The top of the healthcare system is political put by the departments of the prelimits, whom have never work a day in there life and do not know medicine. There is a huge scandal every year in healthcare and every advance in healthcare comes from America.

Seems like they really need to streamline the healthcare system in Norway. What is preventing it from being reformed? Is it apathetic voters, unions, political special interests, bureaucratic inertia, or something else? I know in Canada people say it's good, but there are also long waiting lists and lots of exceptions not covered by their healthcare system. Here in the USA, we kind of have the opposite problem. For-profit health care keeps getting more expensive (due to hospitals, insurers, lawyers, manufacturers, ambulances, and sometimes doctors charging more). Obamacare was actually (before it was politicized) the conservative solution, but in some ways it was a band-aid on a gaping wound. Healthcare being too expensive is one of the few issues that left and right agree on here (although they disagree on the solution).

The people 80% in Norway was a total stop in immigration and sending out of the rapeist and extremist mullas\ imams. Instead we take inn more and more and paying taxes fore them to be here, it is fucking crazy. We do not live in a democracy some call it a democratur where not matter what we do the result is always the same. We have crazy leftist that stop a child rapist and wife killer to be send out of Norway on a airplane to South Sudan, and demand that we send spesal forces to Iraq to get ISIS brides back. It is like 0,5% of the population dictate what happens politically, and everyone cant stop them. The media has lost their minds and is trapped in a leftist's echo chamber, and see right wing Nazis everywhere including the in the left wing AP party.

So If 80% of the population in Norway want a stop in immigration, why can't they get enough legislators elected into the Storting that share their views? Is it just media bias, or are there other issues that people care more about? So can Erna Solberg, the current Prime Minister (Conservative party), and Tone Wilhelmsen Trøen, the current President of the Storting (Conservative party), not get anything done? Is this due to the other parties (or coalition politics) or because of their own political agenda? What does the conservative party in Norway normally try to accomplish?

Yeah, immigration with some form of assimilation is a difficult problem to figure out a solution for. I've got ideas, but I'm not sure.

Also is the Economics video on Norway glossing over certain facts / perspectives or is it really a utopia of work / life balance?

 

[Mortius]

Thanks, Mortius, for replying to this thread to give your perspective. You have renewed my faith in humankind. By the way, how is the whole landslide search / aftermath going in Norway.

Everyone is helping, it is weird though. Seems like the commune (local counsel in USA) knew since 2006 this would happened, and forgot to do something. The local village and red cross is helping there. And since everyone is insured no money was lost.

Seems like they really need to streamline the healthcare system in Norway. What is preventing it from being reformed? Is it apathetic voters, unions, political special interests, bureaucratic inertia, or something else? I know in Canada people say it's good, but there are also long waiting lists and lots of exceptions not covered by their healthcare system. Here in the USA, we kind of have the opposite problem. For-profit health care keeps getting more expensive (due to hospitals, insurers, lawyers, manufacturers, ambulances, and sometimes doctors charging more). Obamacare was actually (before it was politicized) the conservative solution, but in some ways it was a band-aid on a gaping wound. Healthcare being too expensive is one of the few issues that left and right agree on here (although they disagree on the solution).

You have top down control where politicians and lawyers make the decisions, you cant streamline it or reform it. You must break it up and putt it to the communes in charge and tax locally, in the 1970-1990 they centralized the hospitals and showily destroyed the healthcare system to massive waste system we have today. let me putt it this way; If my city people wants to "fix" the hospital we need to go to Oslo and complain to a panel which take years to do (and have never worked), if we vote a different party then noting happens, if we want to have private hospital then we are not allowed to have one. Gynocrats (female bureaucrats) have taken over the healthcare system, and seeming no one can do anything, the media is not touching it with a 10 feet pole and in consul's meetings are taking to a wall of bureaucrats.

The USA heath system was taken over by the pharma industry and the insurance industry, the politicians and the corporations just change hats after end of therm. The question is how to fix it, break it down to a local authority and tax local or private donations seem the only way it seems. When healthcare becomes to big it seems like the problems is to big to solve. The problem is the inflation of healthcare in US, in Norway is not getting treatment at all.

So If 80% of the population in Norway want a stop in immigration, why can't they get enough legislators elected into the Storting that share their views? Is it just media bias, or are there other issues that people care more about? So can Erna Solberg, the current Prime Minister (Conservative party), and Tone Wilhelmsen Trøen, the current President of the Storting (Conservative party), not get anything done? Is this due to the other parties (or coalition politics) or because of their own political agenda? What does the conservative party in Norway normally try to accomplish?

Yeah, immigration with some form of assimilation is a difficult problem to figure out a solution for. I've got ideas, but I'm not sure.

Also is the Economics video on Norway glossing over certain facts / perspectives or is it really a utopia of work / life balance?

We tried, FRP party wanted to limit the immigration, they were stifled and "gave up". The electors in Norway do not pay attention's to the wants or need of the people, there have been like 20 new partys formed in the last 7 years but media and new rules has put them down. Stortinget is a rubberstamped parliament have been since the 2000, they did noting when our prime minster went to war (Libya) without a vote (which is punisht by death according to our constitution).

"Iron" Erna want more immigration and only pretended the immigration wave stopped. The conservatives in Norway is only fakes and pretenders as conservatives in UK, they would be a far left party in the 1960 in Norway.

To say it; the Politian's in Norway are their own insular class and do need to pay any attention to the working class. They have media\ academia to lecture us how they are super smart and know what is best fore us. Even thought academia put forth conspiracy theory's that Americans soldiers was seeding corna 19 in china.

If it goes south in Norway I will get my family to the states, if noting changes. They do not listen, and we are powerless to do anything it seems.