Sorry, wrong again.. er.. still wrong.
>two things invalidate your argument the
>saying "wheres theres a will
>theres a way" and second
>off most of the small
>arms used in fallout are
>simple wep that can be
>mantaned by bullet molds and
>bath-tub chemistry i never said
>that the method of production
>has to be of a
>mass prodused type,
You DID say that:
"As for ammo, lets have some ammo factories run by underpaid ghouls."
The key word is "factory" as in manufacturing large quantities.
> if you
>look at the fallout world
>most problems you encounter only
>have a small number rounds
>for their guns, evan if
>you prodused only one bullet
>a day the majority of
>the time you would be
>stock pileing ammo not shooting
>it off. people in the
>fallout world are more like
>famers then anything else and
>farmers do two types of
>butt work. one is busting
>your butt to get the
>work done and the other
>is sitting on your butt
>becuse theirs nothing to do.
>wouldent you think this gives
>people a lot of time
>to make sharp pointys that
>go boom. and as for
>resorses many of them would
>be lying around as objects
>that no longer work such
>as cars (or entyer citys,
>after all the people who
>lived there dont need worldly
>goods where they have gone)
>the car baterys prob. have
>lead in them for at
>least a clip of ammo,
>as well as providing models
>for reprodusing themselfs. take for
>exsample a lathe, its almost
>al solid block of steal
>(as are most industreal tools)
>it would take almost a
>direct hit from a nuke
>on everyone of them (and
>there are thousands of all
>diferent sizes but all working
>on the same principal)to compleatly
>wipe out at least some
>usefullness as a model.
Do you know how LONG it would take to even perfect the process of creating even a small amount of ammo? You've got to develope the casts, find the resources, mix the chemicals, fill the cases with gunpowder (which will most likely not be of grade quality), put the ignitor into the back of the bullet, cap that ignitor with a metal shield, and then put the lead bullet itself into the tip. Even creating one bullet would take too much time.
Then you don't even know if you've done it right, are you to trust your home-brew bullets when you need to defend youself against a gecko? What if there is not enough propellent? What if the mercury fulminate doesn't ignite the propellent?
Factories are used not only for their mass-production capabilities but also because the process is refined and you can expect the same results from each product chugged out.
> as
>for the argument that resorses
>cant be exstracted from the
>wastes if a human wants
>somthing badly they will get
>it and humans have a
>hisory of wanting to kill
>people very badly.
Just wanting it is not an excuse. You will not, for instance, see a mass scale lead mine to just find lead for bullets, no. There is no infrastructure to support such an operation. To gather the necessary materials for bullet production would require at least a hundred people just to collect enough materials for one person. And when bullets can simply be found, bought, or traded, why bother creating your own?
> finaly the
>vaults, as well as some
>of the remaining/less damaged citys
>would have at least some
>industral capacity
Hardly. The industrial capacity to create a bullet factory is very specialized. Why do you think there are only a few bullet-making companies world-wide? I hardly think you will find any capacity for bullet production in a burnt out city or a vault that was made for survival.
> i will consead
>that the tricky part in
>makeing bulets is the
>nitric acid but as long
>as it is wrighen down
>some where so it dosent
>have to be redescovered it
>will be used, the final
>argument is based on our
>evolution deap down in the
>pit of our bellys we
>know we need tools to
>servive after all take our
>tools awoay and we are
>little more then food for
>something else, we need tools
>so we create tools and
>most of the time we
>make the best ones we
>can, sice guns would help
>us servive better we make
>them any way we can.
Evolution does not specify the need to create bullets. That is a moot argument and has no bearing on anything. If anything it is a cheesy excuse.
>ps do some looking into
>the vet cong and philipno
>fighers they made there guns
>(many of them modern) without
>an industreal base (look into
>the early records such as
>fighinng the jap. or french)
>my apologys for the spelling
>i was in a rush.
The Viet Cong received their supplied via the Ho Chi Minh Trail, a network of inter-jungle roads that lead up to North Vietnam where they had factories to produce weapons and munitions. THAT was an industrial base.
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