Stargate: Universe - Your thoughts?

[x'il]

SGA wasnt cancelled nastily (...)

Ok, what i meant was that it's story arc was cut rather badly, that final chapter seemed like 4 episodes crammed hastily into one.

and if SGU fails and gets cancelled, no idea if MGM will do another show or what direction they will take. they may just say screw it and devote themselves to SG1/SGA movies. and then after 2-3 years do another show.

SG1 movies sounds so much better, imo (given they remain stargate-ish, of course, that is, the "zomg!!1! BSG space opera drama" doesn't start showing it's face in them).

 

[Gloomy]

I miss Kurt Russell.

I agree.

I never understood how the show gained such a massive following. It changed the facts, characters and feel of the movie universe into a pretty generic Sci-Fi setting which became more and more derivative of other works in the genre. It always felt like an expensive Star Trek knock off to me and now it's getting its own version of Voyager.

Maybe someone here could explain the series' greatness to me?

RDA is great, obviously, but that's a given. Then again, his O'Neill had nothing in common with Russell's O'Neil...

 

[TheWesDude]

man, i was horribly upset at the resolution to this episode...

i knew how they were going to solve this problem way before they announced the first script was finalized...

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i posted on the stargate forums that the destiny would gather raw materials from gas giants or suns to power it because it would have to get power en-route or else it would have to have some kind of unlimited power source

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and what did they do? they proved me right...

 

[UncannyGarlic]

I never understood how the show gained such a massive following. It changed the facts, characters and feel of the movie universe into a pretty generic Sci-Fi setting which became more and more derivative of other works in the genre. It always felt like an expensive Star Trek knock off to me and now it's getting its own version of Voyager.

I honestly didn't think much of the original movie, thought it was a pretty average B scifi movie. SG-1 had it's ups and downs but I thought that the actors developed a very good chemistry. O'Neill (Richard Dean Anderson) and Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks) were quite funny quite often, once the series got going at least. It wasn't really anything special in my opinion, just an average scifi show.

SGA was never as good as SG-1, it was also a pretty average show but I didn't enjoy the characters (both protagonists and antagonists) as much. Sheppard (Joe Flanigan) was an enjoyable O'Neill clone and Beckett (Paul McGillion) were funny (though not as funny as O'Neill and Jackson) and the rest of the cast was average or mediocre and were quite generic. McKay (David Hewlett) was annoying more often than he was funny, thus making a poor protagonist for the show, and the choice of replacing Weir (Torri Higginson) was a bad one in my mind, it disrupted the chemistry much like removing Hammond (Don S. Davis) and later O'Neil damaged SG-1.

I'll never forgive SciFi for canceling Farscape though, probably the best show they ever produced.

 

[TheWesDude]

it wasn't just the chemistry between shanks and Anderson, it was the 3 of them, shanks Anderson and judge...

judge had some hilarious 1 liners and even 1 word lines placed just perfectly that damn near made the whole episode at times.

for SGA it felt like it was less 1-3 people that made it, but rather the entirety of the ensemble cast that really made it nice.

in sg1 you could pin it to those 3, but for SGA it was the whole cast, but there was fewer fun/joke episodes and it felt less like they had fun doing it. especially after RSF left.

 

[UncannyGarlic]

Oh Judge definitely had some great one-liners and physical reactions (mostly facial expressions) but I remember Shanks and Anderson being the most entertaining to me. Really it was the chemistry between Judge, Anderson, Shanks, and Tapping that made SG1 what it was (though the male leads were certainly the source of the show's humor) but the loss of Davis wasn't as destructive as the loss of Anderson. Davis and Rothery (Dr. Fraiser) were also good assets that were replaced with inferior actors/characters. You're right about Atlantis though, it really did rely much more on the entirety of it's cast for what it was but I'd say that it's in part due to having weaker leads.

Another thing that is really lacking in SGU is the humor present in both SG1 and Atlantis. Both shows knew what they were, they were action adventure shows that were all about exploring new worlds and fighting the big baddies. Granted, Atlantis went for more character drama but it kept it in perspective.

 

[TheWesDude]

while yes there is lacking humor in SGU, im willing to give it untill 5 to pass judgement.

hell, even if i deem it crap, ill probably still end up watching it, although i may end up watching on the 2nd showing rather than 9pm showing.

i really liked the premiere for white collar. it seems to me that USA has better shows than sy fy and thats pretty embarassing. white collar, monk, burn notice... all really high quality and it really shows through that the actors enjoy doing it.

not something im getting in SGU at all.

of course having tiffiinai amber thiessen, tony shalub, and bruce campbell sure dont hurt em

 

[Maphusio]

Wow some great discussion going on here. I hate to ruin that with my low brow reasons for watching but as of late... I've found myself really into Elyse Levesque. She reminds me too much of Summer Glau.

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In the end I'm probably with theWesDude, I'll wind up watching this show even if I do continue to feel that its not a great program... Then again, with that attitude, I could just as well forget about it and never watch again.

Hey and McKay was too funny! The entire episode when he OD'ed on wraith plasma was hilarious. Or when he and Sheppard accidentally created their own waring city states (guest staring Laura Harris from Defying Gravity!). I can't say I was annoyed much by McKay.

 

[TheWesDude]

my problem is that in the last episode, they hinted at a romance between the mmo guy and her, and then in this epi show her sleeping with one of the military guys...


and i am not denying the humor in SGA, there was some, it was just much less than SG1 had. show was much less "fun" due to that.

and yea, a lot of the individual humor in SGA was due to rodney, but overall there was more humor if you involve the full extended cast.

i dont really watch much tv regularly on TV other than certian shows, predominantly on monday and friday... but i may just end up watching it once on the 2nd showing rather than first showing on fridays if it doesnt pick up.