Starship Troopers 2 - The Bugs are Back?

Well the smallest thing they had was what they called fire pellets. A few of those and you had a firestorm, literally. Also the M.I. were equipped with lasers, flamers, and in every fire team, or one out of every 4, carried a baby nuke launcher. Also the Power Armor they wore was equipped with every type of sensor you could think of. Covering the entire em spectrum. it also could withstand almost any type of kinetic energy impact.
These are some of the many reasons i disliked the portrayal of the M.I. in the movie. In the movie they were fuckin turds who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn! The scene that was the most ridiculous, was when the M.I. had surrounded a bug, then proceeded to fire on it in full auto!!! Jesus Christ!! All those dumbshits should have been dead!!

Cheers Thorgrimm
 
Thorgrimm said:
The scene that was the most ridiculous, was when the M.I. had surrounded a bug, then proceeded to fire on it in full auto!!! Jesus Christ!! All those dumbshits should have been dead!!

Cheers Thorgrimm
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I don't think it would've been a good idea to use single shots against the bugs since they seemed to be able to kill a man with more than half of their insect bodies gone.
 
Paladin Solo said:
Anyone ever watch the CG show that used to be on the WB (I don't know if it's still on)?
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Hell yeah I did! I loved it, it was more faithful to the book, but mixed with the movie. It was really cool.
c0ldst33ltrs4u said:
What were those dudes packing? That is like 3-5 km, that is more than the distance from my home to the University, and it takes me about one hour to get there.
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Powered armor suits, that allowed them to jump miles at a time.
 
Hmm...now I am pressed to read the book...sounds pretty cool. As for the movie, once again, what would be so exciting about a guy exterminating a bug nest? Bring on the clashes, armies against armies, not a dude with pesticide!
 
Executioner wrote:
I don't think it would've been a good idea to use single shots against the bugs since they seemed to be able to kill a man with more than half of their insect bodies gone.
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What you are failing to grasp is that much ammo going off, they would have killed each other!!
Also the Power Armor's weapons were able to cut a bug in half with their lasers at range. No need to get close. There is even a scene in the book where an M.I. gets into hand to hand and crushes a bug. So if the movie had been more faithful to the book you would not have had such ridiculous scenes of M.I. shooting a surrounded bug like idiots, with full auto. To counter the M.I. nastiness in the book, the bugs dug underneath the M.I. set off a charge, and then swarmed out of the resulting holes with numbers to overwhelm them.

Cheers Thorgrimm
 
Thorgrimm said:
What you are failing to grasp is that much ammo going off, they would have killed each other!!
Also the Power Armor's weapons were able to cut a bug in half with their lasers at range. No need to get close. There is even a scene in the book where an M.I. gets into hand to hand and crushes a bug. So if the movie had been more faithful to the book you would not have had such ridiculous scenes of M.I. shooting a surrounded bug like idiots, with full auto. To counter the M.I. nastiness in the book, the bugs dug underneath the M.I. set off a charge, and then swarmed out of the resulting holes with numbers to overwhelm them.

Cheers Thorgrimm
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The book sounds great but in the confines of the movie, that much ammo would have to be expended to be effective against the bugs. True, surrounding it in a circle wasn't the best idea...

A good spin can be put on the inconsistences between the book and movie. The movie could take place before the development of power armor or lasers...never having faced anything bigger than a large cockroach, weapons that easily kill humans were the only ones in production at the time.

The lack of military weapon research at the time could be contributed to the fact that the only game in town was the Federation. No need to research advanced weaponry when you think you have enough troops for any threat and don't really seem to care about a high fatality rate.

Now, with the comm officer at the outpost. The one without a brain. Did the brain bug suck it out or was it the little bugs from the second movie?

One last thing, don't forget to keep a closet full of RAID just in case the bugs attack...
 
Paladin Solo said:
Nukes? Tanks? Lasers? Without mass numbers of uber nazi troops? What's the fun in seeing that? A bunch of bugs get nuked and end of story? You people are dull...bring on the gore I say!
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Well said my friend!!! BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD

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Bring on the bugs I say! And the tits!!
 
Powered armor suits, that allowed them to jump miles at a time.
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Sounds like just one trooper could have levelled a medium size town without breaking much of a sweat... I just have to read the book! Can I find it in electronic format anywhere, and the important thing: IS IT FREE? 'Cause money is kind of a problem for me right now...
 
A good spin can be put on the inconsistences between the book and movie. The movie could take place before the development of power armor or lasers...never having faced anything bigger than a large cockroach, weapons that easily kill humans were the only ones in production at the time.
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That's a good point. Remember that the movie takes place at the beginning of the war, and ends when we start learning about the Bugs and their habits.
 
The book begins somewhere in the middle of the war, after power armor and all that has been implemented. They already know about much of the bug culture and such, but that is not the focus of the read, its more on the human aspect. It goes alot into the philosophy and education of the main character, and overall is a worthwhile read.

And in an unusual event, I agree with PS in wanting to know if there is any nekkidness in the second film.
 
Paladin Solo said:
When does the book begin? And answer my previous question fools!
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Answer to your previous question = 3 times for the same woman. First is after a shower and she is all over a fellow trooper, second is when she is done with the general, and third is right before she dies when the last two troopers kill her. I may be wrong on the last one though. Also, the first one is the best.

Malkavian said:
That's a good point. Remember that the movie takes place at the beginning of the war, and ends when we start learning about the Bugs and their habits.
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Looks like the movie was set up to be a prequel to the book or something.
 
Good point, as in the first chapter of the book they talk about how Razcak "bought it." But the main character is still Johnny Ricco, and he's not in command of the Roughnecks.

Also, the character "Diz" is a man, and dies in the first chapter.
 
I thouroughly enjoyed the book. Showed a lot of the human side of war and how it creates bonds between soldiers.

Should be required reading in basic training... Those kids in basic have too much time on their hands anyway.
 
I read it in baic training, it was smuggled in.

The book starts with a confrontation with the "skinnies". I'm still a little foggy about how the battle against the bugs started.

btwot: I'm a little pissed, the fuckbar that murdered my cousin got his trial date pushed back.
 
What was the point of all the fascist/imperial garbage? I thought that such satire was truly in bad taste for such a movie. Was that a message taken from the book or just an offensive gimmick to piss me off?
 
Well, it's sort of taken from the book, but it's amazingly distorted. In Starship Troopers, Heinlein advances the theory that people have to earn the right to vote through government service. However, unlike a work like 1984, it is not his complete personal view on how the world should work, but rather the literary character's take on such a system. Not to mention the military really isn't in charge of the government and more faulty assumptions people make.

Now, Starship Troopers is most likely the most controversial book Heinlein wrote, and of course there are more than a few essays on the topic (even two books I can name, though one of them is rather flawed). Here are two links which explains the book in more detail than I could in this post.
Thoughts on Starship Troopers by Christopher Weuve.
The Nature of "Federal Service" in Robert A. Heinlein's Starship Troopers by James Gifford.

You might also want to look for the essay "Rah! Rah! R.A.H.!" by Spider Robinson.
 
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