Vault 15, anyone?
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Yarr.
Also, the Vault 15 door was not blasted away, it was just "torn off" with explosives.
Like safe cracking -- you don't actually blast through the entire thing, you just use explosives to destroy the locking mechanism and the rest just boils down to using brute force to push the thing open.
Also, you have to remember that V15 wasn't very far from the camp of the raiders, so it was likely to be discovered (although an obvious problem with the raiding story would be the size of the hole in the ground which serves as entrance to the cave the vault door is in. FO2 did away with the problem of getting stuff IN the vault by showing us a second entrance, but the raiders apparently didn't have access to that one, so they apparently didn't steal anything big.
Anyway. Does anybody have a description of the alternative ending and its narrative? Must have missed that one when I went through the un-DAT-ed movies and voiceovers.
Also, the Vault 15 door was not blasted away, it was just "torn off" with explosives.
Like safe cracking -- you don't actually blast through the entire thing, you just use explosives to destroy the locking mechanism and the rest just boils down to using brute force to push the thing open.
Also, you have to remember that V15 wasn't very far from the camp of the raiders, so it was likely to be discovered (although an obvious problem with the raiding story would be the size of the hole in the ground which serves as entrance to the cave the vault door is in. FO2 did away with the problem of getting stuff IN the vault by showing us a second entrance, but the raiders apparently didn't have access to that one, so they apparently didn't steal anything big.
Anyway. Does anybody have a description of the alternative ending and its narrative? Must have missed that one when I went through the un-DAT-ed movies and voiceovers.
Well a vault door was designed to protect the inhabitants from massive blasts. Plus the one at vault 15 looks like it was blown off from the inside, or with incredibly powerfull explosives as to destroy a good chunk of it. Also the locking mechanism is the faut doors weight and the fact to open it it must be pushed outwords onto its gear tracking.
The scorch burns were located outside and directed to the outside, suggesting that the explosives were placed near the gap, where the mechanical arm reached for the Vault door. Also, the presence of the Vault door outside seems to imply, that the door was at least opening, as the burns and scorch marks lie on the INSIDE of the giant round object.
Argonnot, there is a difference between build to survive an indirect blastwave and surviving carefully placed plastic explosive. as for pulling it out once the hole is made? just use a hook in the hole and pull it out with ropes (while the door is probably very heavy, there are several ways to get around that, but i dont know the english name for it).
and McFurry, it's common practise to drill a hole into the door of a vault, and inserting explosives inside it (which explains some of the outwards blast). it has far more effect than simply sticking it on the outside and having it explode.
and McFurry, it's common practise to drill a hole into the door of a vault, and inserting explosives inside it (which explains some of the outwards blast). it has far more effect than simply sticking it on the outside and having it explode.
If i had my manual, i could point out the exact weight and demensions of the door, and the exact ammount of the blast it was meant to shield the inhabitants from... Oh wait, I think i can, minus that last bit... since its convieniently not in the manual. Says it has a thickness of 4 yards of solid steel, And unless my english fails on me again, i interpret that no to be the diamiter, but the distance from back to front, although in game it does not appear to be that thick, weight is not specified, suffice it to say it would be very, very heavy. I doubt even strategicaly placed c4 would do very much damage, even from withen one of the cracks. The opening mechanism would be destroyed, but the locking mechanisms would probably remain intact. I Can subscribe to the theory of drilling through the door and detenating the explosives at stratiegic points, or blowing the door off its running track while its opening. But other than the military: which includes the enclave and the BoS, super mutants, and remainging hidden weapons chashes i sincerly doubt any raiders could have gained entrance to a vault in such a way. Much easier to just bull shit the vault dwellers into opening the door.