Student tased for asking John Kerry questions...

fallout ranger said:
Then why do the current candidates have protection? :confused:
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That I don't know :/

The president can extend his protection to people he feels needs it.. I think the Secret Service has some limited ability to do the same....

Hillary has it because she was a First-Lady of course.
 
I would have expected that of Americans. But this?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/14/bc-taservideo.html

An eyewitness's video recording of a man dying after being stunned with a Taser by police on Oct. 14 at Vancouver International Airport has been released to the public.

The 10-minute video recording clearly shows four RCMP officers talking to Robert Dziekanski while he is standing with his back to a counter and with his arms lowered by his sides, but his hands are not visible.

About 25 seconds after police enter the secure area where he is, there is a loud crack that sounds like a Taser shot, followed by Dziekanski screaming and convulsing as he stumbles and falls to the floor.

Another loud crack can be heard as an officer appears to fire one more Taser shot into Dziekanski.

As the officers kneel on top of Dziekanski and handcuff him, he continues to scream and convulse on the floor.

One officer is heard to say, "Hit him again. Hit him again," and there is another loud cracking sound.

Police have said only two Taser shots were fired, but a witness said she heard up to four Taser shots.

A minute and half after the first Taser shot was fired Dziekanski stops moaning and convulsing and becomes still and silent.
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Non-lethal my ass.
 
Silencer said:
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Non-lethal my ass.
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Hence why I'm always hearing the term less-than-lethal being thrown around so much.

Either way, it sounds like cops don't know how to use a taser appropriately outside of the whole "You pull the trigger and make them go OWWWWWWWWWW!" shit they're always pulling.
 
Considering the situation that's pretty odd indeed. Doesn't usually happen at such an event, in a college, in America. Have experienced much much worse firsthand though, not in US though.
 
technically, beanbags, rubber bullets, tasers, FN303, etc etc are less-than-lethal. if abused or shot in the wrong location, you can still die.

now, tasered 4 times? i doubt the manual allows you to taser people more than 2 times...

tasering once is already dangerous for people with heart problems. tasering 4 times is just... stupid.
probably points more to the fact that the officers involved received insufficient training.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071117.wtaserstatement1117/BNStory/Front

Taser International Inc. lashes out a media in statement released late Friday, sends 60 legal letters demanding corrections to 'false and misleading headlines'

The following statement, released late Friday, is attributed to Tom Smith, founder and chairman of Arizona-based TASER International Inc., in response to the death of Robert Dziekanski at the Vancouver airport:

An amateur video of the incident that was released earlier this week has received sensational coverage from the media with many reports drawing an unsubstantiated and uninformed conclusion as to the cause of Mr. Dziekanski's death.
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Why would they lie?

lets just go tell this guy http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=8080
and this guy http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/20/2062.asp
oh, and this one http://draves.org/blog/archives/000514.html
and this woman http://www.local6.com/news/14147512/detail.html
there are more, but these are the only ones I can remember the links for.


50,000 volts can hurt you. And can cause permanent damage or kill you.
ESPECIALLY if done multiple times (which seems to be the case often enough)
 
xdarkyrex said:
Why would they lie?
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Gosh, you seem tense. Why don't you go and have a smoke, it will HELP YOU AND MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER (AND MORE COOL)

(not a personal attack, just fooling around as usual. Corporations can be soulless, innit?)

EDIT: Apparently, this guy played Terror from the Deep a wee bit too much and has taken it to heart that if tasers aren't programmed to kill <s>aliens</s> people, they don't. Clearly, it must have been inanimate objects that offed the Pollack and many before him!

Cardiac arrest caused by electrical current is immediate. The video of the incident at the Vancouver airport indicates that the subject was continuing to fight well after the TASER application. This continuing struggle could not be possible if the subject died as a result of the TASER device electrical current causing cardiac arrest. His continuing struggle is proof that the TASER device was not the cause of his death. Further, the video clearly shows symptoms of excited delirium, a potentially fatal condition marked by symptoms of exhaustion and mania such as heavy breathing, profuse sweating, confusion, disorientation and violence toward inanimate objects.
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Tantamount: "Guns kill people. The continuing struggle, bleeding and crying demonstrates that the gunshot wound wasn't the cause of death".
 
Silencer said:
xdarkyrex said:
Why would they lie?
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Gosh, you seem tense. Why don't you go and have a smoke, it will HELP YOU AND MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER (AND MORE COOL)
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:P I'm on the warpath lately, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the sheer scope of ineptitude of my country.

I realize I can't fix everything, or probably even one thing, by myself, but the rallying cries of the disenfranchised need to be heard.
And therefor I will make posts on forums like this, because.. it'll... make a difference...? :|

I also hear complaints of tasers killing people because they are on drugs. "He was hopped up on meth, and the combined strain of the voltage and the drugs caused the cardiac arrest!"
What they fail to mention is that combining something as innocuous as caffeine with 50,000 volts (4 times) can kill you.
Not to mention, if it kills people who are high, maybe we should STOP USING IT, you know, to avoid unnecesary deaths.

I mean, tasers have a purpose, they're usually more humane than rubber bullets or beanbags... but lets hope something new comes out, like sonic weaponry (they're using that in Georgia right now), or laser blinders that are being deployed at checkpoints in Iraq as I type (it's easy to subdue temporarily blind people).
 
Things like this are also happening in my country.. The policemen are doing wonderful stuff. Lately, One of the two youngsters drinking in public (in their neighborhood) have been kicked in the chest to death and one person have been shot in the head for not pulling his car aside.
 
alican said:
Things like this are also happening in my country.. The policemen are doing wonderful stuff. Lately, One of the two youngsters drinking in public (in their neighborhood) have been kicked in the chest to death and one person have been shot in the head for not pulling his car aside.
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So... your country is heiring private security firms too eh? *drum line*
 
Ugh, every country is. Hell, even Sweden. Who cares really? I remain very largely unaffected by it.
 
The Overseer said:
Ugh, every country is. Hell, even Sweden. Who cares really? I remain very largely unaffected by it.
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Well me neither but I wouldn't want some drunk/ignorant guy shooting me in the future?

A big portion of the street fights and shootings are done for no apparent reason. A friend of mine was drinking beer at the beach with his girlfriend, some devout freaks beat the hell out of him. I wouldn't want these people to be able to obtain guns so easily. That's how I may be affected here, don't know about Sweden though.
 
People don't own guns here, except hunters (who well, occasionally shoot their wives with it but this is extremely rare), and the very few Home Guard guys, usually old people, who own AK-4s (I think) around. That said, we barely have any crime here. The only thing cops have to do really is bust 14 year old kids for shoplifting and other minor things. I suppose if guns were more easily available crime rates would rise, as fights tend to escalate very rapidly with guns involved.
 
You're living in a paradise man :) I'm planning to apply to a university in Sweden right after I finish high school. I hear they only require a high school diploma and a bit of a score in TOEFL, give you a working permission, and €600 monthly if you sign up to a Swedish language course.
 
Yeah, you're granted loans and monetary support from the Swedish State. I think a TOEFL test is all that's required more than a HS diploma, yes.
 
The Overseer said:
I suppose if guns were more easily available crime rates would rise, as fights tend to escalate very rapidly with guns involved.
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finland has wide availability of guns (finland has the most lax gunlaws in the EU) and even silencers (those even without paperwork), yet afaik the violent crime problem over there isnt substancially bigger than sweden?
 
yeah, because one recent heavily mediatised event is truly representative of crime in a country, amiright?

gtfo Overseer...
 
Great, I feel so secure going back home with such gun-ho RCMPs...

Really, wTF were they thinking? It's not like the RCMP's name isn't in the gutters already. And since they are a national police force like the FBI, they get the same anonymous protection similar to it. The India Airline bombing is a great example, after all the money spent on "gathering" evidents, the guy walked. 0_o

Tasering the guy 4 times? WTF? Your first day on the job? You don't know convulsion can be CAUSED by electric shocks?
 
The Overseer said:
Yeah, you're granted loans and monetary support from the Swedish State. I think a TOEFL test is all that's required more than a HS diploma, yes.
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I'm hoping I'll be over there very soon. :)
 
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