Terrorists recruiting on your campus?

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welsh

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Consider that this is happening in England raises some rather puzzling questions.

Should your college student organizations be investigated by the police?

Are terrorists recruiting on a campus near you?

Note that this is consistent with the profile of many terrorists- which often come from college campuses and from middle class backgrounds.

Al Qaeda recruiting in British colleges -paper 23 minutes ago

Al Qaeda -- chief suspect behind last week's London bomb attacks which killed more than 50 people -- is secretly recruiting Muslims in British colleges, according to the Sunday Times newspaper.

It is especially looking for students with engineering or computer expertise, the paper added, citing what it said was a leaked report from the Home Office and Foreign Office.

It quoted the report as saying: "Extremists are known to target schools and colleges where young people may be very inquisitive but less challenging and more susceptible to extremist reasoning."

The Iraq war was one of the key causes of young British Muslims turning to terrorism, the report added.

"It seems that a particularly strong cause of disillusionment among Muslims is a perceived 'double standard' in the foreign policy of western governments, in particular Britain and the U.S," the report was quoted as saying.

Three Islamist groups have claimed responsibility for the London blasts, which government ministers said bore the hallmarks of the Islamic militant al Qaeda network which was behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

None of the claims has been confirmed.

British police are trying to determine whether last Thursday's bombers were foreign extremists or "home grown" radicals from among the 1.6 million Muslims in Britain.

No official comment on the report was immediately available.
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The problem isn't so much in terrorists recruiting on campuses, the problem is in apparent effectiveness of such practice. If young British muslims are so disillusioned and suggestible they would join a terrorist organization, then there is something seriously wrong with the British society as a whole.
 
Which raises the question-

Is this suggestive that there is a problem in British society?

Or where these guys just like those Columbine assholes but with better weapons?

I am not sure Ratty. But it seems some societies are more prone to make terrorists than others. Why?
 
Becuase they're shit poor with a largely ignorant, and thus gullible population base.
 
welsh said:
I am not sure Ratty. But it seems some societies are more prone to make terrorists than others. Why?
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Too many video games and P2P sharing! Video games are *evile*! P2P sharing was jointly devised and implemented by communists and Satan to *destroy western society*! By using Shareaza and DC++ susceptible young people become evil agents of Satan and the Communist Party! Games are dangerous! File sharing is dangerous! Internet is dangerous! Computers are dangerous unless operated by exorcists and qualified military officers! We must purge humanity of Satan's agents! Death to independent thought!
 
welsh said:
Are terrorists recruiting on a campus near you?
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Yes, probably. I'm fairly certain I've seen them during my (brief, aborted) stay at Leeds University. It's not a new thing, nor novel. I vaguely remember the IRA recruiting at NI universities at one point, but my memory may be somewhat faulty on this. At any rate, universities have always been recruiting places for radical groups (ref: Hippies, the Anti-Vietnam war groups, the anti-Gulf war groups, PETA). They (universities) are full of young people who have chosen to go somewhere for the express purpose of having their mind moulded into a new form.

It's not unlikely that radical groups will take advantage of that.

Ratty, do you have no radical groups on your local university campus'?

Oh, Brady, you just desribed about 70-95% of the world's population. Try to be more specific (and, I hope, constructive) in further discussions.
 
Big T said:
Ratty, do you have no radical groups on your local university campus'?
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Seeing as we don't have campuses in the first place, I'd have to say no.
 
Ratty said:
Big T said:
Ratty, do you have no radical groups on your local university campus'?
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Seeing as we don't have campuses in the first place, I'd have to say no.
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Um ... so where are your universities? Are they all mail order?
 
Universities are divided into faculties, which are scattered all over the city. Student dorms are at a separate location as well, as are student cantinas and student sports facilities. As you can guess, a student has to do quite a bit of commuting every day.
 
Ratty said:
Universities are divided into faculties, which are scattered all over the city. Student dorms are at a separate location as well, as are student cantinas and student sports facilities. As you can guess, a student has to do quite a bit of commuting every day.
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And this is different from here how?

The Leeds Uni. Dorms (or one set thereof) are about 2 miles NE of where I live, the University (main) campus is about 3 miles S of where I live. There isn't a "cantina", unless you count Starbucks and Gregg's bakery. The sports facilities are 1 1/2 miles NNE of where I live.

The different faculties are spread over several areas separated by nightclubs, churches, coffee shops and fast food restaurants.

This does not make it not a campus, just a somewhat split one.

Also: Do they not have radical groups on your university's split faculties that obviously cannot be described as a campus?
 
The IRA recruited on your campuses? I am a bit curious as to how they got away with that, unless it was through some branch of Sinn Fein?
 
I always thought something had to be compact in order to be considered a campus. Oh well, I learn something new every day.

Big T said:
Also: Do they not have radical groups on your university's split faculties that obviously cannot be described as a campus?
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Well... we have Satanists and UT players (if you could call the latter 'radical'). There aren't any radical political groups, or at least none that I'm aware of.
 
Ratty said:
If young British muslims are so disillusioned and suggestible they would join a terrorist organization, then there is something seriously wrong with the British society as a whole.
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how can the british community or any other community enforce thier liberal way of thinking into the conservative communities, isnt that exactly what defines-a conservative community? by forcing them to be liberal you deprive them of thier right to be conservative.

and that's your problme right there i think.
 
'Cause it's the UK, not Afghanistan.

Skipping the fact nobody's "enforcing" liberal ways of thinking, people who move from one country to another should adapt to the rules and customs of the said country, at least a minimum.
Unless you think Nigerian immigrants across the globe should practice the tribal clitoris-and-labia-removal-without-anesthetics thing.

Anyways, that's not the issue here.

The Iraq war was one of the key causes of young British Muslims turning to terrorism, the report added.

"It seems that a particularly strong cause of disillusionment among Muslims is a perceived 'double standard' in the foreign policy of western governments, in particular Britain and the U.S," the report was quoted as saying.
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That's your problem right there, I think.
 
hahaha, you'd think that without provacation the arab groups would just sit and enjoy thier new liberal way of life.

extremist dont need excuses like iraq war. iraq war was a great benefit against terror, because there were lots of groups in iraq already-so not doing anything would make it better? is that what your sense tells you?
 
in plain terms:

Terrorists?!?! OH NOEEHS!!11one

... lets face it. They won't be able to "unmask" these terrorists all that easy. People aren't stupid, they know how to hide things.
 
Fireblade said:
The IRA recruited on your campuses? I am a bit curious as to how they got away with that, unless it was through some branch of Sinn Fein?
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Not openly, legally. Just like Al-Qaeda doesn't do it openly or legally now.

They got away with it by not being caught.

aegis said:
hahaha, you'd think that without provacation the arab groups would just sit and enjoy thier new liberal way of life.
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If that is the case, that they are being subjected to a cruelly liberal society, why would they move here? Or why would they not leave?
If you choose to emigrate to a country, you agree to take on it's way of life, within acceptable margins.

Now, I am aware that there are many asylum seekers from the "arab" world living here, or seeking to live here, but it seems strange for a person to pick a country who's social views and culture are so alien to them.
 
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