The Raconteurs

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Pajari

Look, Ma! Two Heads!
A friend just brought their debut album over today and I had a listen. It was one of the best things I've heard in a while.

Basically, if you're unfamiliar with the group, it's Jack White from the White Stripes with a band backing him up. The sound is a lot more traditional indie-rock mixed with blues and funk (some parts even sound like Radiohead a bit) than The White Stripes. Those of you that are hardcore Stripes fans may not like this, and those of you (like me) that aren't huge fans of Blue Orchid or Seven Nation Army will most likely enjoy this. I certainly did.

And now- links:

Official website replete with old-style Apple goodness:
http://www.theraconteurs.com/

And the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raconteurs
 
Malky said:
Awful.
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Have anything insightful or constructive insights into the 'awfulness' of the band, Malk?

Seems like a Lo-Fi version of the White Stripes to me. The White Pavements.
 
Eyech, White Stripes style pop, only somehow even worse. And it has Jack White. Yuch.
 
Okay, seriously though, this band is shitty. Jack White is the most overrated musician of recent years, quite frankly - the guy couldn't play guitar if he tried. The White Stripes are probably one of the shittiest bands of all time, they aren't original or innovative, it's just a bunch of whiney noise with vocals I can't fucking stand, trying to rip off classic blues riffs and artists. So fucking white. There is no redeeming quality to that band, whatsoever.

Basically, everyone should just read Sander's post, nod their head, and shut up.
 
Malky said:
Okay, seriously though, this band is shitty. Jack White is the most overrated musician of recent years, quite frankly - the guy couldn't play guitar if he tried. The White Stripes are probably one of the shittiest bands of all time, they aren't original or innovative, it's just a bunch of whiney noise with vocals I can't fucking stand, trying to rip off classic blues riffs and artists. So fucking white. There is no redeeming quality to that band, whatsoever.

Basically, everyone should just read Sander's post, nod their head, and shut up.
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Well, this band is better than the White Stripes on one point and one point only: their drummer has some form of skill, as opposed to the complete incompetence of Meg White.
 
Malky said:
Why is everyone saying that?!
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Because it's music and you get way too worked up about it. Nobody is shoving the White Stripes (or the Raconteurs) down your throat, and there's really no point to shit all over a band with fiery rhetoric just because you don't like their sound.
 
Pajari said:
Malky said:
Yeah, forgive me for being passionate about something.
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Passion is one thing, this is blind fury. A bit too much for something that's as harmless as music.
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I disagree, but whatever. It's my opinion. If something is shitty I'm going to call it out for being shitty and call everyone that enjoys it out as well. Feel free to skip my posts, but don't think for a second I'm going to hold back my opinions or feelings on any topic - especially music.
 
Sander said:
Well, this band is better than the White Stripes on one point and one point only: their drummer has some form of skill, as opposed to the complete incompetence of Meg White.
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For me her... mhh... "style" always contributed to TWS' awesomeness.
Normally bands without any talent and no idea how to play their instruments label their music "punk" ("hey we don't have to ple teh good!! v r punx!!!!!!1111"), and get along with it. The White Stripes on the other hand got some originality. How simple and primitive their musical technique and the stylistic devices used in their songs are, it is somewhat refreshing.
They got great lyrics, in my eyes simple but perfect songs. And I always feel reminded of the origins of rock in rhythm & blues.
This band may lack talent, but it has some, you know,... spirit.

Just sayin'.
 
Malky said:
Okay, seriously though, this band is shitty. Jack White is the most overrated musician of recent years, quite frankly - the guy couldn't play guitar if he tried. The White Stripes are probably one of the shittiest bands of all time, they aren't original or innovative, it's just a bunch of whiney noise with vocals I can't fucking stand, trying to rip off classic blues riffs and artists.
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Malk, you forget that music usually means more to people than raw talent.

Personally, I couldn't care less about either of ole' Jack's bands, from a technichal perspective, for the simple reason that I am not a musician. I have enjoyed some of the music that he's produced, but I agree that it's hardly mould breaking.

You seem to have lost the ability to enjoy music without deconstructing it, which is a disability common to reviewers, the music press and the obsessives, such as yourself, which I am glad I have never contracted.

I have no problem with you calling the technical aspects crap, ie. the lack of talent involved in the playing, but the enjoyment of music in it's totality cannot be "called" in that way.

I don't recall enjoying any of the music that you've professed to loving, but I'm not so narrowminded that I would discount the fact that some people may enjoy it.


My personal opinion of you, independent of the rest of this post, is that you only like things when you feel that such an opinion can give you a sense of superiority - when you can exert your opinion over those too weak to form their own. But that's just an extension of human nature.
 
Bah. You bunch of wusses have probably never been to a good moshin' concert, in which you can actually feel the music. Except Kharn, 'cause I've been told he had been taught mosh-lore by his older brother, Back In The Day.

And anyone saying the Dead Kennedy's had no skill because they were a 'punk' band is wruaounge.

All in all, I agree with Milkybar. The White Stripes are awful, their new version sucks balls even worse. Another band that turned rock'n roll rebellion into pat boone sedation.

"Thisss is the fuuuchurre of rawkkan rhaowwwll!"
 
Wooz said:
Bah. You bunch of wusses have probably never been to a good moshin' concert, in which you can actually feel the music. Except Kharn, 'cause I've been told he had been taught mosh-lore by his older brother, Back In The Day.
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You'd be wrong, cause I've been to some good concerts fit for moshing, Anthrax being the most recent one.

Big T: I'd sooner say that Milky doesn't like the White Stripes because he doesn't like his music, and then attacks them on some other valid points as well.
 
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