The Vault is now on Curse.com

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As of 19th November 2011, the world-famous Fallout wiki, The Vault, has relocated to a new host and is now available at www.FalloutWiki.com, hosted by Curse.

We at NMA wish all the best to The Vault in this new, exciting chapter of their history.
 
Yea, the move is understandable, also it was debatted already a long time ago. Though, people now also have to move over to the new domain, as Wikia still 'owns' all of the existing content and it will remain online (just as written in the announcement).

What about Ausir now, he still works for Wikia? :p
 
Cor, sweet. Wikia is annoying at times. Floating flash adverts? Sod right off.

I recall the Half-Life wiki (Combine Overwiki) moved recently (or will move) too.
 
A welcome move. Wikia pimping their sites is obnoxious; with all the horrible flash heavy bloat. This looks more inline with the initial wiki conception, even if at the end of the day for both parties it's a business.
 
I guess it's nice to go away from wikia? I'm not a very active wikia user so I don't really know about the design problems people have noted.

But it's kind of a pain when a wiki splits. Right now we have two identical wikis, and unless one really grows into the dominant one that'll split up people's work from now on. Oh well.
 
Awesome. It's why we never wanted the Chrono Compendium to go on Wikia in the first place. Too restrictive, and too many ads. I'm really heartened by these defections. It's like the old fansite paradigm is returning.
 
While I can understand the move I totally hate it when wikis for games compete with each other. It's just a waste of resources in my opinion.

And what I liked about wikia, where most my game wikis still are, is the fact that I don't need an account for every single wiki to contribute there.

And then again, you don't know if curse will eventually head the same way as well. Since their bad support for Warhammer addons they're not quite the positive picture in my mind as well.
 
Well, we aren't really going to compete. The entire team moved on to the Vault and our work will be continued there.
 
Tagaziel said:
Well, we aren't really going to compete. The entire team moved on to the Vault and our work will be continued there.
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Well, the team is the heart and I assume most of the community follows Ausir, but Wikia has resources and money up the butt, they'll hire replacements and try to compete best they can. Don't get cocky and think this'll be automatic or easy.

So yeah, I'm with ZeaLitY, and I mentioned this to Ausir too. I think split, "competing" wikis are counter-intuitive, they go against the very principle of how "wiki technology" and crowd-sourced information are supposed to function. Of course, the reality is both these companies are businesses, and Ausir does this for a living, so there are simple monetary decisions to be made by all parties involved, and that's just how it is.
 
And don't forget all the links to the old Wikia Vault spread out all over the internet by now, which you can't change.
 
Mendacious BN said:
I think split, "competing" wikis are counter-intuitive, they go against the very principle of how "wiki technology" and crowd-sourced information are supposed to function. Of course, the reality is both these companies are businesses, and Ausir does this for a living, so there are simple monetary decisions to be made by all parties involved, and that's just how it is.
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This may not be the case for Vault wiki, but I hate it when I see it for other games, where many start their own wiki version, for example for skyrim now.

wikia wiki with 8682 pages
uesp with 14.xxx pages
the curse version with idk pages
skyrimwiki.net
IGN wiki...

What for? The result is that I'm going back and forth because there always information on wiki which is missing for the others.

It's the complete opposite of why I loved gaming wikis, because I didn't have to browse a multitude of pages for getting general information for the games I play.

Edit: Of course the vault had competitors as well, but in that case I always thought the vault superior to all the others without a doubt.
 
This announcement is great news. The old wiki was a great source of information, but the ads cause big delays in pages loading. A few times, my browser actually locked up and I had to force it to shut down. I moved my account immediately. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Exactly Kradath. The strength of the Vault is that Ausir had the good idea to get in on it early, and then leveraged Wikia's size into making it the dominant wiki, with Planet Fallout's pathetic attempts to compete being laughable. And that worked, now we might be in for a wikia-vs-UESP-like situations of two big blocks.

UESP is one of those fansites that leveraged its own size to be the biggest one but wikia gotta compete for the cash. There's a handful of topics where wikia is inferior. I rarely go directly to wikia, it's googling for me, so you usually end up at the best.

Lexx said:
And don't forget all the links to the old Wikia Vault spread out all over the internet by now, which you can't change.
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Yeah, wikia is awesome at SEO. Ausir used to brag about that all the time :P
 
Well, the Wikia Elder Scrolls wiki being successful is also my fault to an extent. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have spent so much time on it now that I'm at Curse, which has its own Skyrim Wiki too.
 
Ausir said:
Well, the Wikia Elder Scrolls wiki being successful is also my fault to an extent. In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have spent so much time on it now that I'm at Curse, which has its own Skyrim Wiki too.
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Yes, curse you. :mrgreen:

Still, I can understand why you did it and I don't say that it is a bad decision, quite the opposite.

I just hope one day there'll be one central gaming wiki platform that does not suck.
 
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