Troika update

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Evidently Troika is indeed in some trouble according to this thread@Mapcore, David Marsh (Level Designer at Troika) was supposed to have said this:<blockquote>Everyone got layed off because activision pulled the funding.</blockquote>I couldn't find this statement anywhere on that forum, but he didn't deny it either when he posted a follow-up answer:<blockquote>I think the answer is for everyone to send me money so I can retire.

In all seriousness, you don't have to worry about me, I'm a big boy and can take care of myself</blockquote>Tell me it ain't sooooo...
Thanks goes out to St0lve for informing us.

Update: David March confirms that the first statement is not his in this thread.
 
Gah.

The New Era of video games approaches!
New exciting features such as:

- Indepth interaction: clicking the mouse
- Cliched plot
- pr0n
- explosions!!1
- rap stars' voices

Aaand, of course, the need to buy an expensive rig to be able to play the crappy-coded, linear, OMG GRAPHIX games.
 
I think Wooz is indicating there is a new batch of Leisure Suit Larry games on the horizon. Lenin save us!
 
F*** me!

That...no...its ALL ACTIVISION'S FAULT!

I mean...I thought their games sold well. Oh, but as long as others sell better that's the way to go huh?

The world is dying around me and all I can do is watch helplessly or yearn for the past...

Hey that sounds like an RPG story! Maybe someday a small company will form and come forward with RPG's the way they were meant to be and in spite of having a small audience they could compensate by selling $100 games 'cause we all know we'd be willing to spend that to play any game that good. Then hopefully the company would never become big enough to have to worry about hostile takeovers or write someting into the contract about having a "panel" of fans that must approve of preliminary's before a game can be made.

Until then...we can wait for that prophesied hero/heroine.

(the wind howls),
The Vault Dweller
 
There's just a large market for brain dead eye candy simple games, and a small market for RPGs, unfortunately. Some people "don't have the patience" for RPGs. And I guess in the larger scheme of things, some people equates to most people. So we are a small sector of the market watching our sector die, as far as I can tell. We might all end up rolling D20s on the table.
 
i think the peer to peer community finally caught up with the artists making the real art.
the really big companies which makes all the popular junk will always sustain the losses by file sharing..and the small ones will be devasted by it...

our fault and our doom, we deserve it.
 
Do we have any numbers on how well Bloodlines really sold or just speculation? And Odin, do you guys know anything that you aren't allowed to tell us? Just curious... I know you guys have the big wigs in your email lists :).
 
While I appreciate your enthusiasm about this, if you look at the thread in question you will see that I do not state anywhere that "Everyone got layed off because activision pulled the funding."

In fact that exact phrase was posted by the original poster of the thread, not me. I just want to clear that up becuase I do not want people assuming things based on something that I was falsely quoted as stating. The rest of the quotes are indeed my public comments, and you have every right to post them.
 
marshmonkey said:
While I appreciate your enthusiasm about this, if you look at the thread in question you will see that I do not state anywhere that "Everyone got layed off because activision pulled the funding."

In fact that exact phrase was posted by the original poster of the thread, not me. I just want to clear that up becuase I do not want people assuming things based on something that I was falsely quoted as stating. The rest of the quotes are indeed my public comments, and you have every right to post them.
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Thanks for your input, but as per the news item we clearly state that we couldn't find this statement in those forums but that you posted the other thing. I'll clarify the news item to point out this..

Edit: someone beat me to it..
 
It is a tragic and cruel world, that of CRPG.

I think Ratty makes some good points on the other Troika thread. I hate to think that this is where the industry is heading, but it might just be too difficult to either -
(1) Make a great CRPG, or
(2) Sell one.
 
No more free rides for Troika.

If you haven't yet purchased Vampire: Bloodlines, this should dissuade you from buying it. With Troika's demise I doubt there will be any future patches (especially the much-needed performance improvements and further bug fixes) for the title.

Even if Troika isn't 'dead' the entire Bloodlines team got laid off. Good luck finding a new patch.
 
Mr Marsh, i hope everything turns out for the best (in these very grimlooking circumstances) for you & the entire Troika team.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some stuff to take care of...

/me goes to sit in a corner, hugging his beloved Troika games & mumbling "say it isn't so, say it isn't so!"
 
While I'd be as sad as any of the rest of Troika's fans (I've purchased and enjoyed their entire catalogue of games.. although ToEE really got to me at times) if Troika really does close, there would be a potential bright side as well - it would open the door for Bethesda to acquire original members of the BIS team.

Whether they would make the leap and recruit any of them is anyone's guess, but I would be pretty positive about a few of the Troika employees landing firmly on their feet as F3 devs. Things could certainly be better, but then.. they could be much much worse as well.
 
Tyr said:
While I'd be as sad as any of the rest of Troika's fans (I've purchased and enjoyed their entire catalogue of games.. although ToEE really got to me at times) if Troika really does close, there would be a potential bright side as well - it would open the door for Bethesda to acquire original members of the BIS team.

Whether they would make the leap and recruit any of them is anyone's guess, but I would be pretty positive about a few of the Troika employees landing firmly on their feet as F3 devs. Things could certainly be better, but then.. they could be much much worse as well.
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I really don't know if that is much of a bright side :-\. I'd rather have troika than the chance at maybe 1 or 2 of them getting hired to Bethesda where I doubt their opinions would even be listened to anyway.

And Exitium, I would think Bloodlines is well worth a purchase with even just its sole patch. Not to mention the fact that I'm sure there are fans out there constructing their own patch as we speak.
 
I agree .. I bought Bloodlines to support Troika rather than really wanting to play the game, but after 2 months I have to agree that, besides some performance problems, the game is excellent and very enjoyable.

Like we've feared, there's no time/money to make an RPG game, even if you create some 'cash cow games'. Guess the only thing we're gonna see is sims III, quake V, HL3, and Playboy: The Mansion IV. If you REALLY want rpg's, you can try one of the various japanese final fantasy alike types on our beloved PS IV or Xbox 3. In the meantime, Hervé will find funding to create Fallout MMORPG: Fobos Friends United.
And, of course there will be several new projects & startups that want to create a worthy successor of Fallout. After 3 months they'll either starve to death or be forced to switch the project to some infantile 3D blast'em-up with cheap pr0n.

It is a sad, sad generation we've become.
 
I don't have a big problem with Bloodlines's scripts being fixed, as it's enough to do that. The things that the modders tend to fix that don't need fixing is another issue entirely, though.

It's the performance I'm irked about. The sound stutter, the faulty EAX, the loading times and the framerate. I don't think it's possible for modders to fix that without the source code.
 
Exitium said:
I don't have a big problem with Bloodlines's scripts being fixed, as it's enough to do that. The things that the modders tend to fix that don't need fixing is another issue entirely, though.

It's the performance I'm irked about. The sound stutter, the faulty EAX, the loading times and the framerate. I don't think it's possible for modders to fix that without the source code.
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I've no idea what EAX is. As for load times and framerate... I guess it depends on the computer... My computer ran it silky smooth but is relatively top of the line.
 
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