Vault 15 Door

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DarkShade1989

It Wandered In From the Wastes
How did the door to V-15 get blown off? It was supposedly made of 4 feet of steel, and to be strong enough to take a nuclear blast. So how does a group of raiders, or whatever, get throught that door? :?:
 
I think that's something designers used to make player go 'holy shit!' when they see it.

Maybe they used lasers or DU-tipped drilling machine to make a hole between the door and 'doorframe' and put explosive charges to blow it open.
 
In Fallout 1 that door was not in place aswell. That woman in Shady sands said there was some kind of schism. Also in Fallout 1, it is stated that it can withstand a nuclear blast or major earthquake but as we came to know in Fallout 2, the vaults were designed to do just the opposite from what they were constructed for. That much is clear even in Fallout 1. So probably an earthquake happened and the door just fell off.
 
JR Jansen:
If I'm not mistaken, there's a big blackened hole on the edge of the door. Earthquakes can't do that.
 
Well, uhm, maybe the hydralics cought fire due to the earthquake, i don't know. Maybe we should ask Avelone. If he still answers questions.
 
No, Avellone is the person to ask what the fuck were they thinking for Fallout 2. I'd suggest asking one or more of the original designers.
 
Hydraulics caught on fire and burned a huge hole through 4 feet of steel? Only possible if hydraulics were made out of magnesium and steel was a soldering iron.
 
- Someone cracked the door code using the computer terminal out the front?
- The Vault Dweller's were tricked into opening it (Hey, someone's just rung the door bell, a voice over the intercom says "Avon Calling").
- Maybe someone left it unlocked?
 
If you join the Master, you're treated to a video of Supermutants ripping the door off of Vault 13. If the doors on the vault are magnetically sealed, which is most likely the case and that's what Chris Taylor said, then you just have to blast the magnets and pull it open. After all, it's little more than a gear that's held in place.
 
Saint_Proverbius said:
If you join the Master, you're treated to a video of Supermutants ripping the door off of Vault 13. If the doors on the vault are magnetically sealed, which is most likely the case and that's what Chris Taylor said, then you just have to blast the magnets and pull it open. After all, it's little more than a gear that's held in place.
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If the doors are magnetically sealed, would it be by electric magnets? Because if there was a nuclear blast near there, wouldn't there be an EMP effect, thus rendering the electro-magnets useless?
 
That is why you should house the elecromagnetic locking mechanisms in an EMP-shielded frame, which they likely were.
 
Just bothered to check up on the manual, it says '4 yards of steel', not feet. 1 yard is almost 1 meter, which means the door's thickness is more than twice your height. That's 12 feet! In comparison, NORAD's 25 ton door is mere 3.5 feet thick.

I pray to god Chris Taylor doesn't write landing manuals...
 
APTYP said:
I pray to god Chris Taylor doesn't write landing manuals...
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Heh...like that Mars lander that cratered a few billion dollars because they got metric and Imperial mixed up? I think that's what happened, not sure.

That was funny as hell.
 
Roshambo said:
Heh...like that Mars lander that cratered a few billion dollars because they got metric and Imperial mixed up? I think that's what happened, not sure.

That was funny as hell.
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Damn, are you serious ? That's an expensive error..
 
DarkShade1989 said:
If the doors are magnetically sealed, would it be by electric magnets? Because if there was a nuclear blast near there, wouldn't there be an EMP effect, thus rendering the electro-magnets useless?
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Someone needs to brush up on their physics.. :D

EMP wouldn't be a factor for several reasons.

1.) A vault is a near gaussian surface, that is to say that it's basically as close as it can be to a sealed conductive container. As such, electromagnetic waves can't get in. They can travel around the surface, but no flux. Since those magnets are on the inside, then EMP can't affect them.

2.) An electro-magnet is a simple circuit. It doesn't really require solid state components which are vulernable to EMP. All you need is a power supply, a core which is typically iron, and some coated copper wire. An EMP could affect the force generated by the magnet because of induction, but that depends on the location of the blast compared to the direction of the wires wrapped around the core. Of course, if the magnets are in the areas where the gear teeth are, then the effects would be neglible. Even if they weren't, they're in that vault anyway.. You'd have to drill for them or blast them.

3.) Even if the EMP could destroy those magnets, which is impossible, then you'd have the weight of the door holding it in place. That's another nice thing about the gear design, since it'll hold it's weight on nearly all the teeth as well as at the bottom.
 
Saint_Proverbius said:
As such, electromagnetic waves can't get in. They can travel around the surface, but no flux. Since those magnets are on the inside, then EMP can't affect them.
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No NET flux.
 
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